Not to beat a dead horse but now my 04' is a characteristic. Gonna tell the service manager that the vibration characteristic is not one of the selling features that was listed on the sticker, nor did my salesman try to drive home that, "the great characteristic built into all tl's is a fantastic vibration at 65 m.p.h. that will be with you for the life of the car."

Service manager did inform me that he did drive 5 other tl's on the lot and that they all have the same "characteristic". Nothing they could do about it.

It sucks becuase I love this car and it can't be fixed. Spoke with a lemon law attorney and they said they have a couple of these tl's in court right now.

I just want a tl that doesn't suck!

Sorry for the same old vibe post!

 

what "vibes" are you currently having?

 

I'm glad to see that the vibration issue hasn't died yet. I still believe that this is fixable by Acura and I'd like to see continued pressure applied for them to do something. I'd like to believe that their only response would not be with individual lemon law suits. Has anyone heard anything lately from ACS about what's going on with this issue?

 

TSill, see my threads here. Search for vibration or lemon and you'll see my thread. PM me. I'm also in Cincy. Which dealer have you spoken with? I just filed a lemon law suit on this issue.

 

ACS... "Acura is aware of this issue... no timetable when to "fix" it..."

 

TSill, see my threads here. Search for vibration or lemon and you'll see my thread. PM me. I'm also in Cincy. Which dealer have you spoken with? I just filed a lemon law suit on this issue.

I spoke with Burdge Lawfirm, they said they have another TL lawsuit currently going on, I guess that must be you. Same dealership that you are working with.

In my opinion there are two issues, one being vibration when the transmission shifts into final drive. If you then accelerate slightly from 65mph in mine, the trans will shift and rpms come up about 500rpms which bring in the vibes. Seems to me that shift points are bad. Like a 5 speed going uphill at to slow a speed in 5th.

Secondly the tires. They suck. EL42's. Still have the "flatspot when cold". I won't accept that.

I'm not sure how others bought there TL's but at my dealer they would not let me drive my actual TL as it "needed to be prepped, but this TL is exactly the same as yours and we can't put miles on all our cars."

I will never let that happen again.

 

I will send you a private message. Check em. Thanks.

 

Oh, and it is not the tires. I've had the original EL42s, the reformulated EL42s and now LS-Zs on my own swap out. No change.

 

Are these 5 other TLs 05s or 04s. Just curious...

 

I must be one of the lucky ones. No vibrations and no complaints with the reformulated EL's (although not my tire of choice) to this date 1 year into ownership. Other than a few periodic rattles, my car has been absolutely fantastic.

 

well periodic rattles would make the car fall way short of fantastic. I alos think that people who are getting their first acura or 200+ hp car find the car to be better than it really is...

 

I thought somebody posted a thread of a picture of "how to fix" the vibration... I am too lazy to search now. But he included a picture , (looks like somewhere in the rear tires, suppose to take out or loosen some screw and tighten it again)

mine have similar problem at 65mph, but it's very minimal... someday i'll put it on a lift and fix it..

can someone do a search? RonA or Rets?

thanks

 

The pictures were of a bracket near the front of the car connecting an exhaust pipe to the oilpan. This "fix" didn't seem to work for everyone, including me. I may readjust the bracket sometime to see if another try will work.

 

Right. The additional adjustment or drive-adjust-drive-adjust are necessary.

Here we go... if anyone is interested...

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...4&page=9&pp=25

 

If this truly worked, wouldn't ACS have sent out a TSB to fix this engineering fiasco?

Honestly, how in the world could Acura have put out this vehicle after what should have been months and months of testing on the track with this vibration issue. It is really inexcusable.

 

Not sure what years. Service manager didn't say.

 

Oh yes its offical we have the rattles and just noises around the cabin. Passengers side door seal makes this rubbing niose. We took it in and they cleaned and lubed it, but the noise returned. Its like only one out of the four is doing this so it is possible for a fix to the problem. The center area we also had takin it in they had it for a day and a half. They heard and found a noise around the nav. area. They told us that they had used anti-rattle tape. OH my gosh!! its a temp-fix thanks Acura. Im sure that will last the life of the car.

Now we have the sunroof rattle going on. So needless to say this Monday it will be in for service. My wife loves the car and driving it, but the cars driving her nuts with all the rattles
She is going to take it to service every time she hears it so Acura will fix it and find answers to the bottom line...WHY?

 

dooooohhh! it's a new gen platform, of course its gonna have issues. i think the only way that the vibration issue can be remedied is with Honda taking their heads out of their butt and stop worrying about special oil additives and start figuring out how to build a vibration free car!!

 

Amen brother. My point exactly. How is this not noticed in engineering tests on the track? Especially the 50-60 mph vibration, which is so clearly related to the gearing and rpms on the car. It is pathetic.

 

In the early preview or the press events on the summer of 2003, I hadn't seen any reporters writing anything about this... I'd like to test drive those cars...

 

And who's the judge of that? That is a individualized thing to judge. I'm pretty sure you could always find a car that is better. If you've owned a Lexus GS or LS for that matter which are two fine cars not many problems with either. Those owners could easily talk to a Rolls Royce or a Bentley owner that could tell them you think your Lexus is fantastic try owning a Bentley or a Rolls. These cars are fantastic. When in actualality the Lexus is just as good to those owners. Each car is judged by the owner of how fantastic that car is.

 

LOL Ok the car is fantastic!!!! to you maybe!! I stand by what I said... periodic rattles is not my idea of fantastic... oil jets, butt prints, driveline vibrations, etc. etc. Maybe you have to defend your purchase and maybe not. But one thing for sure, as long as there are people like you out there that put up with that crap, it will still be built that way for you.

I have owned over 18 cars and while the TL might be one of the quicker ones, it was one of the ones that had more problems. The people that thought it was a great or fantastic car were the ones that were driving accords, taurus, saturn, camry, or some crappy GM product.

 

Oh I don't know, my 17 year old has an 88 Camry and its got two more rattles than my TL. I want to repeat that I love my TL and I'm sure everyone that's replying to the rattle issue here is feeling the same way. It's just frustrating that Acura wont step up to the plate and find the fix(s) for it. Next Monday we will be back at Acura for another "fix" for the noise issue. Oh and a back passenger door window regulator that grinds going down.

 

I've had much better service on my Ford SUVs than on this Acura. Maybe Acura has IN THE PAST built such solid vehicles that the service depts. got lax from basically just changing the oil all the time. Any REAL problem and they throw up their hands and say "it is a corporate issue." My pathetic service dept. diagnosed by vibrations after one ride as a "tire issue" and never looked at the rims or anything else that might be causing the vibration. What a joke.

 

mickey3c is correct. TL falls short of fantastic in the quality dept.

Honda engineers were being nuggets when they decided to spend time to engineer in that special motor additive for the oil, or built a auto trans that burns its own gears, or delivers cars with faulty memory modules.

cool car and all, but i'll bet the G35 and Lexus owners are happier in their initial quality surveys.

 

I dogged Acura in my quality surveys to Consumer Reports. Notice that the new TL is the only Acura with 'average' reliability. I didn't buy average but instead got below average.

 

Who are you refering to? A rattle is minor to a $7,000 new engine on a IS300 or an oil sludging problem that smokes like an exterminator on a $35,000 Avalon or how about a whole new transmission on an 03 G35 that did not fall under warranty because of milage. These are things that have happened to people that I personally know. Try these things out for size when compared to a rattle. Even go to the ClubLexus.com site. You can easily see that mainly the GS and ES complaints are mechanical problems. What I am basically saying is I am not here to convince you that the TL is a fantastic car. That is up to you and anybody else that is an owner. On that same note I do recognize the flaws that the TL bears. However no one made any of us purchase the TL and at any point when any of us just gets that frustrated with any car than we should get rid of it. I know I will if I ever get that disgusted with the TL but I'm not. I'm just saying most of us on this site have had bigger problems with our cars in the past than minor rattles and butt prints.

 

I have much bigger problems than butt prints and rattles. Every car will have issues. The quality of dealer service and willingness to go the extra mile is the reason that people buy BMW even though they may not be on average as reliable as an Acura. Acura's service is "honda-ish" at best and very average. Maybe it is because in the past the cars have been so well built that all the service guys had to do was change the oil on these cars. With all the computers, technology, etc. inherent in today's high end cars, things will and can go wrong. The problem I have is that ACURA CANNOT FIX THE VIBRATION PROBLEM and/or REFUSES TO DO SO. My dealer kicked the thing over early as a "ACS issue" and refused to look at my rims or any other reason for the vibration. ACS is clueless. I will not buy another Acura and hope to be out of mine within the next few months.

 

The biggest problem here is that ACURA will not admitt that they have a problem with some TL's. ACS is a joke. ACS wants to push all problems down to the dealer to resolve and the dealer is holding the bag because "there is no vibration issue" per ACURA. I'm not trying to defend the dealers but this is a really bad situation.

We could start a thread with ACS stories. No never mind it would scare off the people looking to buy an ACURA.

 

I think you should start it. It's a domino affect. You start the thread, people get scared to buy, sales decrease, Acura starts to address the problems.

 

Well, they lost a sure fire MDX purchase from me in 2006 over this vibration issue as well as future sedan purchases from me.

 

All the vibration we've had has been in the cabin area. We've taken everything out just to make sure it wasn't caused by our "junk" in the car. But their still there. OK there are some guys on here that say they know friends that have had 'bigger' problems than the almighty vibe issue. Like engines dropping or trannys going, but $30,000 one could maybe figure out and make a tight and quiet ride that matches the great handling and drive the TL has. That's all, I bet the Honda Accord has got that. Hummm...I'm going to have check that out

What happens with your wheels/tires? Are they not balance proper or what. That seems it would be an easy fix for them.

 

What I mean Jon is the drivetrain a problem for your TL or do you think its other than that ie;tires/wheels. That would be big...

 

Just an update on my TL it's been in for service for the past week! Needless to say the Portland Acura Dealership is doing their part to correct this issue(s). I'm very glad to see that these guys aren’t scared to get into this problem. I've been told by them that the replaced items are the headliner, RR window regulator, FR passenger’s door seal, RF drivers latch cover, sunroof assembly, and rubber grommet on the trunk. So this Tuesday when we pick it up, it will deliver the basic, a nice rattle free cabin.

 

I'm surprised that you didn't get the dealer to do the fix for the 50-60 mph vibration that was recently addressed in a new Acura TSB. After all the previous complaints about this vibration I thought TL owners would be stampedeing to get this taken care of.

 

Walter, search my name on here or read the vibration threads. My story is like others with both the 50-60 driveline vib and vibs from 65 on up.

 

That’s weird guys I don’t think I've got that drive train problem. But hey, I haven’t had my car for the past two weeks either. I will defiantly listen for that at those speeds and ask if they’ve had that problem come across them.

Have you had the problem fixed? I didnt think that the TL had a driveline, being front wheel drive.