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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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04 TL- High beams are dim.

I've replaced my HID bulbs with Osram Night Breaker Unlimited. I have liked these bulbs in the past when replacing halogens in other vehicles but they are not impressive in HID for the TL. They do not seem bright at all. The high beams are a joke. I keep hearing g how great these projectorsites are in the TL but I just don't see this in my car. Any thoughts on how to improve?
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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I've replaced my HID bulbs with Osram Night Breaker Unlimited. I have liked these bulbs in the past when replacing halogens in other vehicles but they are not impressive in HID for the TL. They do not seem bright at all. The high beams are a joke. I keep hearing g how great these projectorsites are in the TL but I just don't see this in my car. Any thoughts on how to improve?
Are your headlights oxidized and hazy? Maybe you need a headlight restoration. Post pictures of your headlight assemblies
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
Are your headlights oxidized and hazy? Maybe you need a headlight restoration. Post pictures of your headlight assemblies
no. Headlights ,are crystal clear.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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You need to check couple things here.

1. Headlight outer lens condition (your crystal clear might not be crystal clear at all) unless you had them refinished.
2. Is your head light aim properly? there couple case here in the past OP complain about dim headlight only later on found out theirs wasn't properly aimed.
3. Note that HID will require at least 40+ hours of operation to achieve full brightness.
4. TL projector is design for HID so the usable light should be below the cut off line, Unlike kid with HID in their civic which blind oncoming traffic.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by truonghthe
You need to check couple things here.

1. Headlight outer lens condition (your crystal clear might not be crystal clear at all) unless you had them refinished.
2. Is your head light aim properly? there couple case here in the past OP complain about dim headlight only later on found out theirs wasn't properly aimed.
3. Note that HID will require at least 40+ hours of operation to achieve full brightness.
4. TL projector is design for HID so the usable light should be below the cut off line, Unlike kid with HID in their civic which blind oncoming traffic.
thanks for your advice. My lenses are definitely crystal clear. No issues with them at all. The symptoms that I have is when I sit on a dark road with my low beams on pointing straight down the road, I then turn on my high beams and I can see no further down the road between high beams and low beams. I can obviously see the projector opening up an Illuminating street signs but I get no further distance out of it. It's just not what I would consider to be a high beam. I see other newer cars on the road with HID light's and the quantity of light that they throw down on the road is enormously brighter than what I have. With Acura TL's has supposedly having these amazing headlight assemblies and I've spent the money on high-quality bulbs, I certainly would expect a better quantity of light on the road as an end result. Instead, I'm getting what looks like very average light pattern and nothing I would consider to be bright like an HID.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 02:16 PM
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Something seems off here. Can you park 10-20 feet from a wall at night and take pictures of how your low-beam pattern looks and do the same with high-beam engaged for us?
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
Something seems off here. Can you park 10-20 feet from a wall at night and take pictures of how your low-beam pattern looks and do the same with high-beam engaged for us?
UPDATE: I went to take photos as you requested and now the headlights sporadically won't come on. I can get one or the other on from turning the headlight switch off and on. But can't get both on at the same time.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 08:44 PM
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authentic bulbs?
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Oe, headlights? Legit bulbs? Bad ballast? 3rd TL have very goof headlights.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 10:42 PM
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well for certain we can not make any assumption until pics arrived.
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Old Dec 17, 2017 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
Oe, headlights? Legit bulbs? Bad ballast? 3rd TL have very goof headlights.
Headlights are Stanley OEM. Osram Bulbs are legit I checked. Ballasts could be bad. I just dont know yet.
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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 01:01 AM
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So where are the pix?
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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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You likely installed the bulbs incorrectly /they're misaligned or they're counterfeit bulbs
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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 11:46 AM
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My vote is that the bulbs aren't properly seated...
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 01:21 PM
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Sorry for the delay. Here are the photos of my headlights. First photos are to show the lenses are clear.



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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 01:23 PM
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The next 2 photos are of the low beams on and high beams on. 20 feet from the wall. What do you think?

Low beams
high beams
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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Passenger side is not seated correctly. It’s point towards the driver side
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 03:46 PM
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you got two problems.

1. the headlight aim a tad low.
2. Passenger headlight is aim toward the driver side it should look like this.

___________ ______________
_______/ _____________/



and sorry those headlight lenses isn't crystal clear.

Here is what "crystal" should looks like.





BTW this is OEM bulb.

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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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+2 on headlight bulb not seated properly in the headlamp. Fix that FIRST, and then you can fix alignment of the entire lamps
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 10:37 AM
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Yes, I will fix the alignment but as you see these headlights are not bright.What could be causing this issue? As compared to the photo by "truonghthe" it looks like night and day. These are new OSRAM bulbs about 2 months old. My headlights are clear, I just dont have a good camera. The headlight on the drivers side is brand new as of about 6 months ago.
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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Positioning of the bulb is crucial in the amount of light coming out. If it's not seated properly, it throws off all the optics in the projector = crappy output.
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 01:27 PM
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OP where you got the Osram bulb?
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 01:37 PM
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Ebay seller. I checked them out and they look legit.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ddougee
Ebay seller. I checked them out and they look legit.
mind if you provide us with link? I tent to steer clear of Ebay/Amazon website when come to genuine product, I only buy from website that actually an authorize dealer via manufactured listed as "authorize dealer" within their home page.

my pictures above is with stock original HID bulb, I had two pairs of legit Orsam CBI in my RL and the TL-S and yes I can tell the difference in light output when driving at night.

Last edited by truonghthe; Dec 27, 2017 at 01:13 PM.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by truonghthe
mind if you provide us with link? I tent to steer clear of Ebay/Amazon website when come to genuine product, I only buy from website that actually an authorize dealer via manufactured listed as "authorize dealer" within their home page.
here is the link to the bulbs I purchased.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-D2S-OSR...wAAOSws0lZ7b7J
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 03:11 PM
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I hate to break this to you but if you go to google search bar and type in "autolamp.com" as ebay user name it will pull up as some Taiwan lamp company and IF its true I don't think Osram came from Taiwan/ China.

I bought mine from Powerbulbs.com and yes they are authorize retailer by Osram.

https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/store/...ting/d2s-85122

http://www.nightbreakerunlimited.co.uk/find-a-retailer



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think you bought the counterfeit bulb which cost like $10 which explain for the horrible light output.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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Picute above taken with fog light off.











Borh car with legit CBI
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Verify your product | OSRAM
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared

Thank you nfnsquared. My bulbs have been verified authentic. Some people just don't know what they are talking about. So what could it be that makes them so dim? I still need to correct the alignment.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 08:13 PM
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YW.

It's already been said 3 or 4 times. The bulbs aren't seated properly.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
YW.

It's already been said 3 or 4 times. The bulbs aren't seated properly.

yes I know know. It's like 20 degrees here. When it warms up a bit I will correct the way the bulbs are seated. Thanks.
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 10:52 AM
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Can't believe no one has mentioned the simplest solution: that the bulbs likely aren't seated properly?


https://www.theretrofitsource.com/hi...htbreaker.html

Also 125 . I can't see how ebay seller can drop that much off and question its authenticity as well but let's reserve judgement until the seating of the bulbs is addressed
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Can't believe no one has mentioned the simplest solution: that the bulbs likely aren't seated properly?


https://www.theretrofitsource.com/hi...htbreaker.html

Also 125 . I can't see how ebay seller can drop that much off and question its authenticity as well but let's reserve judgement until the seating of the bulbs is addressed
I bought my NightBreakers from PowerBulbs for $113 shipped from Europe, so the Ebay pricing is not suspect IMO. And again, the bulbs were authenticated by OSRAM, so pretty sure they are the real deal.
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
I bought my NightBreakers from PowerBulbs for $113 shipped from Europe, so the Ebay pricing is not suspect IMO. And again, the bulbs were authenticated by OSRAM, so pretty sure they are the real deal.
Power bulb is an authorize dealer for Osram even Osram website said its their online retailer. Any monkey can slap a real serial number on a fake bulbs, I guess you never shopping in NYC china town where Coach, LV etc.... you can find the serial number authentication and if you put the serial into manufacture website its said "genuine" product, I guess that why they sell for $50 for a LV purse bag instead of $6000.


Like Thoiboi said, once the bulb properly seated and headlight properly adjusted then we can judge.
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
I bought my NightBreakers from PowerBulbs for $113 shipped from Europe, so the Ebay pricing is not suspect IMO. And again, the bulbs were authenticated by OSRAM, so pretty sure they are the real deal.

Maybe I'm just cynical about Chinese companies and their legitimacy. 113 is still 20 bucks more than what that eBay seller has it for.

Ehh, it's all speculation now anyway
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Maybe I'm just cynical about Chinese companies and their legitimacy. 113 is still 20 bucks more than what that eBay seller has it for.

Ehh, it's all speculation now anyway
Where are you getting info that autoamp_com is Chinese? Looks like they are based in the UK. "Based in United Kingdom, autolamp_com has been an eBay member since Jan 18, 2013". They have 100% positive feedback and their bulbs passed the Osram Trust verification. Really hard for me to believe the bulbs are counterfeit.

And FYI, TheRetroFitSource is not an Osram approved partner, yet they sell Osram bulbs. So not being an approved partner doesn't mean that the bulbs are counterfeit.

And FYI, PowerBulbs is selling the NightBreakers for $101.17 right now, only $6 more than autolamp_com. So again, their pricing is not really suspect.
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