After 8 hours of waiting...this happens
03-13-2011, 10:26 PM
#45
SMH. Go work on his car.
Sucks that has to happen but lesson learned I suppose. It took me a while to get the rear off but that was because I couldn't find the hidden bolt that held the rear seats on. My cousin who was helping me said that my rear seats had a vagina LOL.
Sucks that has to happen but lesson learned I suppose. It took me a while to get the rear off but that was because I couldn't find the hidden bolt that held the rear seats on. My cousin who was helping me said that my rear seats had a vagina LOL.
03-13-2011, 10:50 PM
#46
... Please invest in the service manual, go to your closest Wally Mart, buy a nice set of Craftsmen sockets and box end wrenches then spend 1 hr per nite in the 3G garage.... Trust me you will learn alot and sleep much better knowing you have the skills to do it yourself.... Good Luck with your repairs
03-14-2011, 12:04 AM
#50
I do my own work and suspension really isn't a huge problem as much as you may think, especially when the top hats come installed. I did a couple sets in about 4-5 hours without a lift and was with my buddies just hanging out. Finding the perfect ride height and making sure everything is equal is the hardest thing.
IMHO, (and not to be a dick/rude or hate on the OP), but its common sense. You put on the wheel...the lugs go after. If he was tired he should have stopped.
Don't take this in the wrong way but I guess it was a good thing my guy was out for a couple days and you didn't get the invoice sooner because if I put on your A-spec kit before this it would have been really ugly because insurance won't cover that I don't think. I am pretty sure your side skirts are all scrapped up, J pipe/third cat and some other things you don't see are damaged.
Good luck and to all, when you bring your car to get worked on by anyone, have a conversation with them before hand. Just because a shop/someone says they can do it, doesn't mean they can do it right. Don't be fooled by "a shop" being better than anyone else. Its the luck of the draw really and at least having someone like this OP did install it he could watch what they were doing. I have fixed numerous sets of headlights/taillights because they weren't sealed/worked on properly. One set was done by a reputable shop and after three times they told the member here that it was enough, they did what they could. I have fixed A-spec kits, fog light wiring and so on because it wasn't done right. Shops or random people, it doesn't matter because I have seen both do horrible jobs and I have also seen shops/random people do such a good job I would trust them. I have also seen A-spec kits butchered by body shops and he is a member here as well. Sometimes I can't fix the problems because it would cost more to fix than buying new. Think of it as EBAY... just because its cheaper, doesn't mean its better or will last. Some things are easier said then done and reputation is key.
Just remember one thing. No one works on your stuff how you would. A shop may not make this mistake, but they probably missed a screw here or there and said "oh well he can't see it".
Let me know how it goes.
Last edited by AckTL05; 03-14-2011 at 12:13 AM.
03-14-2011, 04:20 AM
#55
Suzuka Master
Man, I am sorry to see this. You are DAMN lucky you wasn't going real fast. Too many years ago I lost a rear wheel going down the freeway... scary stuff. I hope you are able to get it fixed soon.
I helped another A-zine member install a set of Tien SS's on his Type-S. We did it my garage and used tips/tricks from the A-Zine DIY Garage. He was very pleased and all went well.
I have a set of Koni's that I was going to install but love the stock ride too much to install.
I helped another A-zine member install a set of Tien SS's on his Type-S. We did it my garage and used tips/tricks from the A-Zine DIY Garage. He was very pleased and all went well.
I have a set of Koni's that I was going to install but love the stock ride too much to install.
03-14-2011, 07:33 AM
#56
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if the guy forgot to tighten the lugnuts...who knows what else he forgot to do during the the breakdown and install of the new suspension? such an amateur mistake...
really sorry to see this OP, idk what i'd do if i were you. like AckTL05 said, there is a good chance you have more damage to other components of the car when your wheel popped off.
i'm grateful to have a good friend that helps me with installs like this. he knows his shit, and is over cautious and careful when it comes to anything. be it suspension or putting on a sticker, he and i make sure it is 100% correct before we move on to the next thing.
let us know what happens with all of this...and again, sorry you're having to deal with this mess.
really sorry to see this OP, idk what i'd do if i were you. like AckTL05 said, there is a good chance you have more damage to other components of the car when your wheel popped off.
i'm grateful to have a good friend that helps me with installs like this. he knows his shit, and is over cautious and careful when it comes to anything. be it suspension or putting on a sticker, he and i make sure it is 100% correct before we move on to the next thing.
let us know what happens with all of this...and again, sorry you're having to deal with this mess.
03-14-2011, 08:03 AM
#57
Racer
Thread Starter
ouch ive seen peoples tires fly off on the high way before from lose lugz that sucks when it happens to you and when you are that low!
when i had worked on my setup with some one form Azine it took us a while too but we ate in between and BS'd but i made sure i helped and tightened everything as much as possible
did you F up the front rotor?
when i had worked on my setup with some one form Azine it took us a while too but we ate in between and BS'd but i made sure i helped and tightened everything as much as possible
did you F up the front rotor?
yeah, done by an idiot i guess soo...
I know, it was for me too and these roads aren't even suitable for it being that low.
$60? This would be the type of shop to do this type of stuff lol. Minimal I have seen is around $200 and about 3 hours.
I do my own work and suspension really isn't a huge problem as much as you may think, especially when the top hats come installed. I did a couple sets in about 4-5 hours without a lift and was with my buddies just hanging out. Finding the perfect ride height and making sure everything is equal is the hardest thing.
IMHO, (and not to be a dick/rude or hate on the OP), but its common sense. You put on the wheel...the lugs go after. If he was tired he should have stopped.
Don't take this in the wrong way but I guess it was a good thing my guy was out for a couple days and you didn't get the invoice sooner because if I put on your A-spec kit before this it would have been really ugly because insurance won't cover that I don't think. I am pretty sure your side skirts are all scrapped up, J pipe/third cat and some other things you don't see are damaged.
Good luck and to all, when you bring your car to get worked on by anyone, have a conversation with them before hand. Just because a shop/someone says they can do it, doesn't mean they can do it right. Don't be fooled by "a shop" being better than anyone else. Its the luck of the draw really and at least having someone like this OP did install it he could watch what they were doing. I have fixed numerous sets of headlights/taillights because they weren't sealed/worked on properly. One set was done by a reputable shop and after three times they told the member here that it was enough, they did what they could. I have fixed A-spec kits, fog light wiring and so on because it wasn't done right. Shops or random people, it doesn't matter because I have seen both do horrible jobs and I have also seen shops/random people do such a good job I would trust them. I have also seen A-spec kits butchered by body shops and he is a member here as well. Sometimes I can't fix the problems because it would cost more to fix than buying new. Think of it as EBAY... just because its cheaper, doesn't mean its better or will last. Some things are easier said then done and reputation is key.
Just remember one thing. No one works on your stuff how you would. A shop may not make this mistake, but they probably missed a screw here or there and said "oh well he can't see it".
Let me know how it goes.
I do my own work and suspension really isn't a huge problem as much as you may think, especially when the top hats come installed. I did a couple sets in about 4-5 hours without a lift and was with my buddies just hanging out. Finding the perfect ride height and making sure everything is equal is the hardest thing.
IMHO, (and not to be a dick/rude or hate on the OP), but its common sense. You put on the wheel...the lugs go after. If he was tired he should have stopped.
Don't take this in the wrong way but I guess it was a good thing my guy was out for a couple days and you didn't get the invoice sooner because if I put on your A-spec kit before this it would have been really ugly because insurance won't cover that I don't think. I am pretty sure your side skirts are all scrapped up, J pipe/third cat and some other things you don't see are damaged.
Good luck and to all, when you bring your car to get worked on by anyone, have a conversation with them before hand. Just because a shop/someone says they can do it, doesn't mean they can do it right. Don't be fooled by "a shop" being better than anyone else. Its the luck of the draw really and at least having someone like this OP did install it he could watch what they were doing. I have fixed numerous sets of headlights/taillights because they weren't sealed/worked on properly. One set was done by a reputable shop and after three times they told the member here that it was enough, they did what they could. I have fixed A-spec kits, fog light wiring and so on because it wasn't done right. Shops or random people, it doesn't matter because I have seen both do horrible jobs and I have also seen shops/random people do such a good job I would trust them. I have also seen A-spec kits butchered by body shops and he is a member here as well. Sometimes I can't fix the problems because it would cost more to fix than buying new. Think of it as EBAY... just because its cheaper, doesn't mean its better or will last. Some things are easier said then done and reputation is key.
Just remember one thing. No one works on your stuff how you would. A shop may not make this mistake, but they probably missed a screw here or there and said "oh well he can't see it".
Let me know how it goes.
...and lesson learned, ill no longer let anyone other then a trusted mechanic touch my car. I'll be getting the A-spec as soon as my cars fixed and adjusted to a safe ride height. Man, I am sorry to see this. You are DAMN lucky you wasn't going real fast. Too many years ago I lost a rear wheel going down the freeway... scary stuff. I hope you are able to get it fixed soon.
I helped another A-zine member install a set of Tien SS's on his Type-S. We did it my garage and used tips/tricks from the A-Zine DIY Garage. He was very pleased and all went well.
I have a set of Koni's that I was going to install but love the stock ride too much to install.
I helped another A-zine member install a set of Tien SS's on his Type-S. We did it my garage and used tips/tricks from the A-Zine DIY Garage. He was very pleased and all went well.
I have a set of Koni's that I was going to install but love the stock ride too much to install.
if the guy forgot to tighten the lugnuts...who knows what else he forgot to do during the the breakdown and install of the new suspension? such an amateur mistake...
really sorry to see this OP, idk what i'd do if i were you. like AckTL05 said, there is a good chance you have more damage to other components of the car when your wheel popped off.
i'm grateful to have a good friend that helps me with installs like this. he knows his shit, and is over cautious and careful when it comes to anything. be it suspension or putting on a sticker, he and i make sure it is 100% correct before we move on to the next thing.
let us know what happens with all of this...and again, sorry you're having to deal with this mess.
really sorry to see this OP, idk what i'd do if i were you. like AckTL05 said, there is a good chance you have more damage to other components of the car when your wheel popped off.
i'm grateful to have a good friend that helps me with installs like this. he knows his shit, and is over cautious and careful when it comes to anything. be it suspension or putting on a sticker, he and i make sure it is 100% correct before we move on to the next thing.
let us know what happens with all of this...and again, sorry you're having to deal with this mess.
03-14-2011, 08:26 AM
#58
Damn Dude That thing is all over the floor! Told you 3/4" threaded in the front and 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" threaded up in the rear would of given you the look you were goin for...what is that threaded 2" in the front and 3" in the rear, Christ that shit is slammed!!! Told you so!!!!!!
Goodluck with everything though, it'll be back on the road before you know it.
Off topic but the roof spoiler looks serious!
Goodluck with everything though, it'll be back on the road before you know it.
Off topic but the roof spoiler looks serious!
Last edited by 07TLTypeS420; 03-14-2011 at 08:29 AM.
03-14-2011, 09:01 AM
#59
Racer
Thread Starter
Damn Dude That thing is all over the floor! Told you 3/4" threaded in the front and 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" threaded up in the rear would of given you the look you were goin for...what is that threaded 2" in the front and 3" in the rear, Christ that shit is slammed!!! Told you so!!!!!!
Goodluck with everything though, it'll be back on the road before you know it.
Off topic but the roof spoiler looks serious!
Goodluck with everything though, it'll be back on the road before you know it.
Off topic but the roof spoiler looks serious!
.. thanks and i know it does, appreciate you selling it too me 
03-14-2011, 09:13 AM
#60
Moderator
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Living at home = free food, no rent, and a garage to work in
I still live at home and I try to do everything 100% correct, whether it be on my car or someone else's.
OP I'm sorry to see what happened. I highly doubt your friend would help you do all of that work and PURPOSELY forget to tighten the lug nuts down. He probably put them on just to get the wheel on there and then forgot to go back and tighten them properly.
I hope the car gets fixed correctly and it gets back on the road soon
03-14-2011, 09:46 AM
#61
Advanced
Be wary trying to get your insurance to cover this like someone else suggested. Now that you've posted the facts on here it means that you told the world what really happened. You are leaving yourself open to a major fraud investigation that will not end well. Lick your wounds accept what happened and don't blame anyone but your genius friend and yourself.
03-14-2011, 02:11 PM
#63
Racer
Thread Starter
+1
Living at home = free food, no rent, and a garage to work in
I still live at home and I try to do everything 100% correct, whether it be on my car or someone else's.
OP I'm sorry to see what happened. I highly doubt your friend would help you do all of that work and PURPOSELY forget to tighten the lug nuts down. He probably put them on just to get the wheel on there and then forgot to go back and tighten them properly.
I hope the car gets fixed correctly and it gets back on the road soon
Living at home = free food, no rent, and a garage to work in
I still live at home and I try to do everything 100% correct, whether it be on my car or someone else's.
OP I'm sorry to see what happened. I highly doubt your friend would help you do all of that work and PURPOSELY forget to tighten the lug nuts down. He probably put them on just to get the wheel on there and then forgot to go back and tighten them properly.
I hope the car gets fixed correctly and it gets back on the road soon
It was just the spacers that came with the car.
03-14-2011, 02:18 PM
#64
Be wary trying to get your insurance to cover this like someone else suggested. Now that you've posted the facts on here it means that you told the world what really happened. You are leaving yourself open to a major fraud investigation that will not end well. Lick your wounds accept what happened and don't blame anyone but your genius friend and yourself.
1) if you tell them the truth, they will disallow the claim anyway (unauthorized/insured repair shop/mechanic)
2) if you lie, they can find this thread... and insurance fraud is no joke
it sucks to have to absorb the cost, but like stated... lesson learned
I am assuming its just the fender damaged... maybe the dust cover on the rotor.... < $1k for the repair... unless you have broken suspensions components... depending on the rate of speed
As for people living at home, i only bought my own home about a year ago... and i did A LOT of quality, trusted installations in my mother's garage and i am DAMN proud it
at least 2-3 dozen AZ members can vouch for me, and i don't advertise myself as a mechanic....
I am curious... was the "culprit" a local person, or are they on AcuraZine??
03-14-2011, 02:30 PM
#66
We need to know what type of spacers they are..if they're generic ones that just slip on, what size they are, or are they the ones with built in studs. I've had my lugs go loose on me a few times..and I definitely could feel it and had to stop immediately before the wheels start flying off.
Have you taken it to got an estimate on how much it would cost to fix?
Have you taken it to got an estimate on how much it would cost to fix?
03-14-2011, 03:18 PM
#68
Drifting
yea we gota get the spacer issue resolved.... what spacers are you talking about? did you add aftermarket ones to push out your rims for a more aggressive look? If so what did you use size and did they have new extended lugs?
03-14-2011, 03:23 PM
#69
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in for answers on spacers...
03-14-2011, 03:26 PM
#70
Racer
Thread Starter
We need to know what type of spacers they are..if they're generic ones that just slip on, what size they are, or are they the ones with built in studs. I've had my lugs go loose on me a few times..and I definitely could feel it and had to stop immediately before the wheels start flying off.
Have you taken it to got an estimate on how much it would cost to fix?
Have you taken it to got an estimate on how much it would cost to fix?
... A-spec was my next mod.
03-14-2011, 03:27 PM
#71
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^no such thing as stock spacers. spacers don't just come on a car, somebody has to put them on.
get a pic for us if you cant find out what brand they are.
get a pic for us if you cant find out what brand they are.
03-14-2011, 03:29 PM
#72
Racer
Thread Starter
this was his reasoning, exact words/text
"the wheel spacer was corroded where it seats on the hub, so when i torqued all the lugs down it felt tight cause it was caught on the hub then when you drove it seated properly and lost all torque on the lugs"
"the wheel spacer was corroded where it seats on the hub, so when i torqued all the lugs down it felt tight cause it was caught on the hub then when you drove it seated properly and lost all torque on the lugs"
03-14-2011, 03:30 PM
#73
Drifting
well how did the spacers get there? do you have a picture of the spacers so we can see what they are?
spacers larger than 5mm in thickness are not safe to run unless you get extended studs as the stud length is to short to give a proper hold with the lugz... many people who get spacers either get new longer studs pressed in or they buy the ichiba version 2 spacers that come with longer studs already mounted to them
thats why we want to know because this might not have been your friends fault if spacers were used incorrectly
spacers larger than 5mm in thickness are not safe to run unless you get extended studs as the stud length is to short to give a proper hold with the lugz... many people who get spacers either get new longer studs pressed in or they buy the ichiba version 2 spacers that come with longer studs already mounted to them
thats why we want to know because this might not have been your friends fault if spacers were used incorrectly
03-14-2011, 03:31 PM
#74
Racer
Thread Starter
my bad when he was assembling the rim he showed me a small rusted circle that went on the rotor and he claims that it was a spacer... i really dont know man, ill be the first to admit that i know nothing about cars im only 18 with little knowledge behind them or how to work on them, i fucked up and made a mistake of trusting the kid and right now its taking a toll on me.
03-14-2011, 03:32 PM
#75
Drifting
is there an extra spacer or not thats really the question? stock rims do not come with spacers they just fit so is there an extra piece of metal between the rim and the hub or just the fact that he did not seat the wheel properly on the hub and it came lose as you drove.
this is a spacer
http://www.ichibausa.com/whspveii.html
this is a spacer
http://www.ichibausa.com/whspveii.html
03-14-2011, 03:33 PM
#76
Racer
Thread Starter
well how did the spacers get there? do you have a picture of the spacers so we can see what they are?
spacers larger than 5mm in thickness are not safe to run unless you get extended studs as the stud length is to short to give a proper hold with the lugz... many people who get spacers either get new longer studs pressed in or they buy the ichiba version 2 spacers that come with longer studs already mounted to them
thats why we want to know because this might not have been your friends fault if spacers were used incorrectly
spacers larger than 5mm in thickness are not safe to run unless you get extended studs as the stud length is to short to give a proper hold with the lugz... many people who get spacers either get new longer studs pressed in or they buy the ichiba version 2 spacers that come with longer studs already mounted to them
thats why we want to know because this might not have been your friends fault if spacers were used incorrectly
03-14-2011, 03:33 PM
#77
Drifting
my bad when he was assembling the rim he showed me a small rusted circle that went on the rotor and he claims that it was a spacer... i really dont know man, ill be the first to admit that i know nothing about cars im only 18 with little knowledge behind them or how to work on them, i fucked up and made a mistake of trusting the kid and right now its taking a toll on me.
as long as you didnt get hurt then that is fine the rest is just a lil $ and inconvenience thats all
03-14-2011, 03:36 PM
#78
Racer
Thread Starter
yeah man its just rough... looking back i should've stopped my car when it started shaking before it was too late. i've done alot of stupid shit and got away with it, but this is rough... a wise man once said "rough times"
03-14-2011, 03:39 PM
#79
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I dont have any pics and i dont know how they got there, i really dont think my car had spacers on it if they don't come on stock... because i bought the car off someone on here who didn't mod the car in anyway (so he claimed), he previously owned a rsx type s that he modded
so...you didn't have spacers?
03-14-2011, 03:41 PM
#80
Drifting
i dont think he did?? the stock rims dont come with hub centric rings right?? i mean they come already bored at 64.1mm to fit the hubs exactly right??
i know my tsw's have a larger hub bore size so they gave me hub centric rings to make the rims fit snug and those can be a pain if not set right but i thought stock rims came bored to exact specifications
i know my tsw's have a larger hub bore size so they gave me hub centric rings to make the rims fit snug and those can be a pain if not set right but i thought stock rims came bored to exact specifications