XLR8 Engine Torque Damper: '04-'08 TL Manual
#241
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One question for everyone though. I noticed that when i back out of a parking space or my driveway, as soon as i stop and the engine shifts, there is a "bunk" noise. Then, as soon as I move forward, it does the same thing, but then never does it again until the next time I stop. It will also do it if I start off straight ahead from parked, but it will then only do it once.
Is something getting stuck? I adjusted the damper when the car was on ramps, so the back end was lower. Could the engine have been leaning backwards enough to cause it to be too loose? I also noticed that the top hole of the bracket is larger than the bottom one, so maybe that is shifting/rotating with the engine weight on it...
Is something getting stuck? I adjusted the damper when the car was on ramps, so the back end was lower. Could the engine have been leaning backwards enough to cause it to be too loose? I also noticed that the top hole of the bracket is larger than the bottom one, so maybe that is shifting/rotating with the engine weight on it...
#243
One question for everyone though. I noticed that when i back out of a parking space or my driveway, as soon as i stop and the engine shifts, there is a "bunk" noise. Then, as soon as I move forward, it does the same thing, but then never does it again until the next time I stop. It will also do it if I start off straight ahead from parked, but it will then only do it once.
Is something getting stuck? I adjusted the damper when the car was on ramps, so the back end was lower. Could the engine have been leaning backwards enough to cause it to be too loose? I also noticed that the top hole of the bracket is larger than the bottom one, so maybe that is shifting/rotating with the engine weight on it...
Is something getting stuck? I adjusted the damper when the car was on ramps, so the back end was lower. Could the engine have been leaning backwards enough to cause it to be too loose? I also noticed that the top hole of the bracket is larger than the bottom one, so maybe that is shifting/rotating with the engine weight on it...
#246
Three Wheelin'
Which loctite are you guys using and on which threads exactly?
#247
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Anybody?
#249
Three Wheelin'
I thought it was a blue one. Loctite 242 (blue) seems to fit the bill. Loctite 271 (red) may be a little too heavy for it?
So all threads, including the cap that closes the cylinder? Where the bushings are?
So all threads, including the cap that closes the cylinder? Where the bushings are?
#250
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I always thought blue = removable. Red = more or less permanent. I'd assume blue as well but someone else can chime in.
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Has anyone with an AT done this yet and can review with stock motor mounts? My mounts are going out (rear still decent) and intend to replace all 3. I'm at 142K btw. I'm looking at a few options
Stock mounts + ETD (with MT mount arm)
or
Innovative Mounts Front/Side and Stock Rear (maybe ETD??)
or
Innovative Mounts (all 3) which is least considered due to vibration
Unfortunately I haven't ran into a local with aftermarket mounts so I can't see if I can deal with the extra vibration.
Ideally I'd like a performance upgrade, better start off the line with no/reduced wheel hop, and minimal to no vibration. I DD the car (have an S2000 for fun car) and am a spirited driver so like better handling but I have not tracked it.
Any thoughts? Any feedback from an AT owner with the ETD?
Stock mounts + ETD (with MT mount arm)
or
Innovative Mounts Front/Side and Stock Rear (maybe ETD??)
or
Innovative Mounts (all 3) which is least considered due to vibration
Unfortunately I haven't ran into a local with aftermarket mounts so I can't see if I can deal with the extra vibration.
Ideally I'd like a performance upgrade, better start off the line with no/reduced wheel hop, and minimal to no vibration. I DD the car (have an S2000 for fun car) and am a spirited driver so like better handling but I have not tracked it.
Any thoughts? Any feedback from an AT owner with the ETD?
#256
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^^ Same here, 2 years with it now.
#257
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I can't even remember when I did this mod. 5 years? 6?
It did make a notable difference although my mounts where on their last legs at the time.
I just remember pulling the stock unit and it being completely and utterly worthless.
It did make a notable difference although my mounts where on their last legs at the time.
I just remember pulling the stock unit and it being completely and utterly worthless.
#259
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definitely recommend this xlr8 damper even though it was a PITA to install with some of the bolts being blocked by other items
#260
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Hey All,
Buda I have a 07 tl type-s 5AT with 210K and I ordered the Innovative Mounts 75A (which I'm only going to do the front and side) also ordered a new stock rear mount and got a Engine Torque Damper (ETD) with the MT bracket so I can preserve my rear mount. And just for shits and gigs I threw in a XLR8 lightweight crank pulley. I CANNOT wait to get this stuff in! The Innovative Mounts (IMs) are the only things I'm waiting on.
Now I'm speaking my own opinion here, but this might be the best set-up for greatest balance between luxury and performance. Since the Innovative Mounts are stiff and cause vibrations, keeping the rear mount sock with the add ETD, and replacing the front and side with the IMs will cut down on these pesky rattles and vibrations.
I'll keep updating on how it goes when everything come in the mail and hopefully going to take some pictures. The only thing I'm worried about it changing that bracket out so I can install the ETD
Buda I have a 07 tl type-s 5AT with 210K and I ordered the Innovative Mounts 75A (which I'm only going to do the front and side) also ordered a new stock rear mount and got a Engine Torque Damper (ETD) with the MT bracket so I can preserve my rear mount. And just for shits and gigs I threw in a XLR8 lightweight crank pulley. I CANNOT wait to get this stuff in! The Innovative Mounts (IMs) are the only things I'm waiting on.
Now I'm speaking my own opinion here, but this might be the best set-up for greatest balance between luxury and performance. Since the Innovative Mounts are stiff and cause vibrations, keeping the rear mount sock with the add ETD, and replacing the front and side with the IMs will cut down on these pesky rattles and vibrations.
I'll keep updating on how it goes when everything come in the mail and hopefully going to take some pictures. The only thing I'm worried about it changing that bracket out so I can install the ETD
Last edited by dfresh07tls; 03-27-2016 at 10:29 PM.
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#261
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^^ lots of people only run aftermarket front and side and stock rear. To also keep vibrations down, make sure you neutralize your mounts (rock the engine with the mount to engine bolt only hand tight)
#263
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Preloading the mounts?
#268
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They came on the car...so I've had them for almost 2 months. I am guessing they were broken in although I swapped over to the gerzand inserts about a month ago (although there was nothing wrong with the 75A ones that were in there). I still have my base TL with oem mounts and it's noticeable, the difference, but it's not unbearable IMO. Even with the AC on...it's not terrible. Ended up putting some foam roll between the windshield and dash to prevent that weird rattle...let's see how it works out.
#269
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i've installed xlr8 mounts twice (about to be a 3rd time to put in gerzand's new inserts), once without this neutralizing and once with, and there was a major difference in the vibrations. with neutralizing i had much less vibration (still more than oem) and i would highly recommend it, but not a huge deal if you don't
for the AT it's a similar process.
also remember to install the side mount, then do the other mounts, then come back and loosen and retorque the side mount (this was recommended by the OEM manual and gerzand)
Last edited by sockr1; 03-28-2016 at 10:01 AM.
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#273
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Hey All,
Buda I have a 07 tl type-s 5AT with 210K and I ordered the Innovative Mounts 75A (which I'm only going to do the front and side) also ordered a new stock rear mount and got a Engine Torque Damper (ETD) with the MT bracket so I can preserve my rear mount. And just for shits and gigs I threw in a XLR8 lightweight crank pulley. I CANNOT wait to get this stuff in! The Innovative Mounts (IMs) are the only things I'm waiting on.
Now I'm speaking my own opinion here, but this might be the best set-up for greatest balance between luxury and performance. Since the Innovative Mounts are stiff and cause vibrations, keeping the rear mount sock with the add ETD, and replacing the front and side with the IMs will cut down on these pesky rattles and vibrations.
I'll keep updating on how it goes when everything come in the mail and hopefully going to take some pictures. The only thing I'm worried about it changing that bracket out so I can install the ETD
Buda I have a 07 tl type-s 5AT with 210K and I ordered the Innovative Mounts 75A (which I'm only going to do the front and side) also ordered a new stock rear mount and got a Engine Torque Damper (ETD) with the MT bracket so I can preserve my rear mount. And just for shits and gigs I threw in a XLR8 lightweight crank pulley. I CANNOT wait to get this stuff in! The Innovative Mounts (IMs) are the only things I'm waiting on.
Now I'm speaking my own opinion here, but this might be the best set-up for greatest balance between luxury and performance. Since the Innovative Mounts are stiff and cause vibrations, keeping the rear mount sock with the add ETD, and replacing the front and side with the IMs will cut down on these pesky rattles and vibrations.
I'll keep updating on how it goes when everything come in the mail and hopefully going to take some pictures. The only thing I'm worried about it changing that bracket out so I can install the ETD
#274
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^That makes complete logical sense though...right? Lol
I wouldn't mix and match mounts.
I wouldn't mix and match mounts.
Last edited by maharajamd; 03-28-2016 at 03:11 PM.
#275
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Agreed...
I had a cracked rear pcd too...upgraded to hfpc, added the damper and swapped out the innovative mount inserts to a new set of 75A and hoping for the best. ONce you get used to the little buzzing of the motor you feel in your prostate...you kinda look forward to it.
I had a cracked rear pcd too...upgraded to hfpc, added the damper and swapped out the innovative mount inserts to a new set of 75A and hoping for the best. ONce you get used to the little buzzing of the motor you feel in your prostate...you kinda look forward to it.
#276
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The "J Tickler"?
Get it?
Get it?
#278
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Good to get feedback from others having the cracked pc problem. Could going with the ETD and keeping the stock rear mount as dfresh07tls is doing, solve that problem?
I wish someone with a 5AT and stock mounts had done to the ETD. It would be nice to know if it made a difference. I may have to break down and try it.
I wish someone with a 5AT and stock mounts had done to the ETD. It would be nice to know if it made a difference. I may have to break down and try it.
#279
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^I think it would make a difference even for the AT. But it likely won't be near as noticeable as it is on the MT.
The ETD is not designed to take the brunt of those forces. It's made to compliment the mounts and give support from a different angle. So if your rear mount is weak all your going to do with the ETD is shorten it's lifespan. IMO.
The ETD is not designed to take the brunt of those forces. It's made to compliment the mounts and give support from a different angle. So if your rear mount is weak all your going to do with the ETD is shorten it's lifespan. IMO.