XLR8 Engine Torque Damper: '04-'08 TL Manual

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Old 03-31-2010 | 10:25 PM
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I just got mine plan on installing this weekend. I don't like the thought of excess vibrations but I do really hate how my engine is jumping around coasting through a parking lot in 1st or 2nd. Will I be happy with the black or should I go for the reds?
Stick with the red ones. You'll hardly notice the vibration. But you will notice the improvement in how your ride feels. I promise.
Old 03-31-2010 | 10:43 PM
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this mod is da SHIT! i have mine in a different spot tho and have the nrg damper! no problems at all! dopeness!
Old 03-31-2010 | 11:38 PM
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this mod is da SHIT! i have mine in a different spot tho and have the nrg damper! no problems at all! dopeness!
what area do u have the damper, and what website to order parts from?lmk please i ingalls have the damper on the belt side of the motor.. between the the strut bolts and the power steering, w/ special bracket
Old 04-01-2010 | 08:12 AM
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this mod is da SHIT! i have mine in a different spot tho and have the nrg damper! no problems at all! dopeness!
Originally Posted by badboy68
what area do u have the damper, and what website to order parts from?lmk please i ingalls have the damper on the belt side of the motor.. between the the strut bolts and the power steering, w/ special bracket
Are your cars auto? Can you get pics if possible please.
Old 04-01-2010 | 08:36 AM
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Excelerate,

Will this fit a 8th gen Accord 6MT?
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Are your cars auto? Can you get pics if possible please.
pm'ed you bro
Old 04-01-2010 | 07:02 PM
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L i believe it will, the 7th n 8th gen mounts stayed the same on the MT, but im not sure about auto transmission or the engine mount bracket for the accord.....i believe someone already made one for the accord no?? or it was an older model??
Old 04-05-2010 | 08:55 AM
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Mine got lost by UPS!!!!!
Old 04-05-2010 | 08:40 PM
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^That sucks to hear!! Hopefully they're sending a check for it...
Old 04-14-2010 | 10:40 AM
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Anyone have any updates on their experiences with this damper? I have a 6spd with original mounts (120k on them) and am looking to stiffen up my motor.

Would this be recommended for use with my stock mounts?
Old 04-14-2010 | 04:13 PM
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gonna install mine soon..
Old 04-15-2010 | 07:11 AM
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yes use it with stocks mounts mc
Old 04-18-2010 | 07:35 PM
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Just installed mine finally!!!! WOW what a difference it feels great! and I just used the black bushings. I don't feel any excess vibrations or anything! Now I can drive slowly in a parking lot without my car bouncing around!! Shifting from 1-2 is much much better and crisp that was a big issue for me. Also while driving/coasting and taking my foot off the pedal it doesn't "bogg" at all like it did.


The only issue I found was I had to adjust the threads on the damper out much further then I felt was safe. It kind of makes me wonder if the bracket was designed using a TL with a busted front engine mounts. I DO NOT have busted mounts and only have 36K which might explain why the distance required for the damper was so much greater on my car. Anyone else experience this?

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Old 04-18-2010 | 11:39 PM
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roger thats weird on my car i dont have the threads so far out.....hows it feel and is it hard to get the damper on???
Old 04-19-2010 | 04:49 AM
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I was a pretty easy install and the results are fantastic Im just worried about the strength of the bolts with them so far out. How many miles do you have?
Old 04-19-2010 | 09:54 AM
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Cant wait to do this. Is it safe to say, that this mod would help extend the life of the axles on our car? I've always heard that wheel-hop alot of the times directly contribute to the breakdown of axles and other parts.

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Old 04-19-2010 | 09:59 AM
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^I believe so. Any structural reinforcements help to keep the car more stable and also prevents unnecessary movement of certain components.
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does the dampener come with the brackets? or will i need the oem bracketing?
Old 04-19-2010 | 04:55 PM
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does the dampener come with the brackets? Or will i need the oem bracketing?
u use the oem one
Old 04-19-2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fsthatch
u use the oem one
This damper comes with a bracket I didn't reuse any OEM brackets what are you talking about?
Old 04-19-2010 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
does the dampener come with the brackets? or will i need the oem bracketing?
The damper does come with a bracket. However, if you have an A/T TL you will need an additional OEM bracket since this kit is designed for the M/T TL's.
Old 04-19-2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
The damper does come with a bracket. However, if you have an A/T TL you will need an additional OEM bracket since this kit is designed for the M/T TL's.
Excelerate any comment on my fitment issues? What was the condition of the car the bracket was designed for? Miles/Mount condition? If the bottom hole in my bracket was longer then it is I could probably slide it down more so the damper isn't maxed out.
Old 04-19-2010 | 10:51 PM
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Just got my TL 2 weeks ago and noticed the bouncing inbetween 1st and 2nd gear and after reading this glad there is a solution.

Contacting Excelerate to see if I can add this to the order I placed today for an AEM V2, hopefully its not too late!
Old 04-20-2010 | 08:51 AM
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on the damper not a lot i just threw it on and dropped the car off at the dealer after they r done with it......ill have to get the red bushings for the damper again and the 75a mount bushings
Old 04-21-2010 | 09:38 PM
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Received my torque damper today, hopefully i can install this weekend.
Old 04-26-2010 | 02:11 PM
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Ordered, if it arrives in time, I will be installing it this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Roger555
Just installed mine finally!!!! WOW what a difference it feels great! and I just used the black bushings. I don't feel any excess vibrations or anything! Now I can drive slowly in a parking lot without my car bouncing around!! Shifting from 1-2 is much much better and crisp that was a big issue for me. Also while driving/coasting and taking my foot off the pedal it doesn't "bogg" at all like it did.


The only issue I found was I had to adjust the threads on the damper out much further then I felt was safe. It kind of makes me wonder if the bracket was designed using a TL with a busted front engine mounts. I DO NOT have busted mounts and only have 36K which might explain why the distance required for the damper was so much greater on my car. Anyone else experience this?


I did the install over the weekend and noticed a drastic improvement between 1st and 2nd gear. But, I have the same problem with adjusting the threads on the damper further out than i wanted too. Josh is the normal/safe?
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How man how many miles do you have? I think this thing may have been developed on a car with saggy mounts. Mines holding up though I checked it the other day
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Mine looks the same as above. As far as the threads are concerned.
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How man how many miles do you have? I think this thing may have been developed on a car with saggy mounts. Mines holding up though I checked it the other day
I have an 07 type-s 6mt with 37k.
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Originally Posted by NCTL05
Mine looks the same as above. As far as the threads are concerned.
Ya its out too far dont you agree?


Originally Posted by illstrategy
I have an 07 type-s 6mt with 37k.
Exactly the same mileage as mine
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Here is what we found, with the help of an insightful member:

Just insert the pin that goes inside the bracket the opposite way. By doing this, the bracket can be used upside down giving the extra inch that was needed to properly close the gap. The bracket design remains exactly the same, only now it mounts upside down vs the original setup.

The way it is now is fine. There isn't any sort of structural issue.

I went over all the internals on my damper; it looked as good as it did out the box. The red bushings showed no wear at all. I applied blue loctite to a few threads and put it back together.

I personally took a different approach to close the gap more since I had already ordered the coupler and then cut a few things

In conclusion, there is no harm in using it extended, especially if loctite is applied once you got the length right.

The other approach would involve the following (taken from another forum):

- M10 x 1.5 x 90mm bolt (1)
- M10 x 1.5 nut (2)
- M10 x 1.5 x 35mm coupling nut(1)

Step 1: Remove the adjusting rod end from the ETD
Step 2: Cut the head off one 35mm length bolt.
Step 3: Insert one end of the cut bolt into the coupling nut (about 1/2 way), then install this new extender into the ETD unit.
Step 4: Reinstall the adjusting rod end into the other end of the coupling nut.







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Originally Posted by Excelerate
Just insert the pin that goes inside the bracket the opposite way. By doing this, the bracket can be used upside down giving the extra inch that was needed to properly close the gap. The bracket design remains exactly the same, only now it mounts upside down vs the original setup.
That pin seems to be tac welded or something like that to my bracket. Do I try to knock it out with a hammer?
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Is there a complete DIY for this yet? Installing mine probably this weekend and if there is no DIY, might have to make it myself.
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No DIY really necessary just look at the pictures
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How much has anyone left the large adjustment nut? I looks like you can increase the throw by extending the large nut out and screwing the connection in so that the length stays correct. I plan on using stock mounts with red bushings in the damper. I know one or two members had to extend both out to make it fit but it looks like this may be uncommon.

Thanks, ML
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Originally Posted by rtibbitts07
Is there a complete DIY for this yet? Installing mine probably this weekend and if there is no DIY, might have to make it myself.
If its not too much, I think a good D.I.Y. would be a great idea. Especially with the differing accounts (ie. amount of threads shown) of how peoples installs have went.
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i got one for my 2g. cant wait to put it on
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Just a few updates:

Here's some comments from the original tester:

As the original tester, I haven't had one problem with this set-up for well over 2 months. Looks exactly the same as the ones posted above. One thing is make sure you adjust both threads evenly, don't over extend one more than the other (as shown on page one).

Also:

1) In order to use the coupling nut, it needs to be shorter than 35mm, closer to 25mm.

2) It would also require cutting 40% of the rod end threads off.
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installed. bye bye wheel hop. it is almost non existent and it seemed like my car pulled more. it was incredible how i felt so much more power.

so i had to test it...

removed the dampener and had a buddy drive my car with me next to him...

turns out my car was slipping the tires in 1st and 2nd all the way through vtec!!

THEY WERENT COMPLETELY HOOKING!!!!!!

put the dampener back on and the problem is gone. it just pulls and pulllss

edit: i didnt get mine from xlr8 because i figured the brackets wouldnt work on my car. but the one i bought is the EXACT SAME THING


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