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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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What would be a good first performance mod for the TL

got to add some power behind the punch, what be a good first time mod on the TL
im getting rims soon, i have a thread going on about that, down to 2 styles,
can just think about car cosmetics, gotta think about performance, what would be the best 1st mod to do to tweak the performance off the TL.
can you list the best part for the mod & where i can purchase it aswell
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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there are a few basic performance mods...there really isn't much for 3G Acura TL...u have few options actually...

you have:
Emissions Performance:
- Air Intake (AEM, INJEN, K&N, WEAPON R, and FUJITA *NEW*)
- Exhaust (COMPTECH & Custom Magnaflow Exhaust *SEARCH*)
- Supercharger / Turbo (none as of yet) (COMPTECH SUPERCHARGER ON THE WAY)
- Nitrous (ZEX, NOS)
- Underdrive Pulley (UNORTHODOX)


Handling Performance:
- Rear Sway Bar (COMPTECH)
- SUSPENSION:
A) SPRINGS (TEIN S. TECHS, TEIN H. TECHS, EIBACH PROKIT, COMPTECH SPRINGS, H&R)
B) COILOVERS (TEIN BASIC, TEIN SS, TEIN FLEX)
- Short-Shifter (COMPTECH)
- Tires (PIRELLI PZERO NERO M+S, TOYO PROXIES, MICHELIN SPORT A/S)
- Silicone Wipers (PIAA, BOSCH)
- Camber Kit (INGALLS, SPC)

these are just some of the most common brand of the products listed above.

but you can find these things mainly on EBAY, TIRE RACK, DISCOUNT TIRE and PEP BOYS...using FROOGLE.com can help you out a lot too
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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damn thats alot of stuff, i was thinking about adding some extra horses, i'll probably have to go with some air intake if im correct right?
what would be a good one, and where can i cop it
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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if your looking for quick horsepower...the UNORTHODOX UNDERDRIVE RACING PULLEY would be ur best bet...there is not dyno for the 04+ ACURA TL but when the accord was dyno'd with the pulley it showed a 20+HP gain which is rediculous....a cold air intake will add around 4hp to the wheels for you...and competch exhaust will add around 7HP.....but with the Cold Air Intake and Comptech Exhaust harmonize and will produce greater gains. the TL dynos stock at around 215-220....and the TL with AEM INTAKE....and COMPTECH EXHAUST dynos around 235-240....so u get good gains....and with the UR Racing PULLEY...ull get around another 10+ HP....and then you can upgrade your spark plugs to irradium spark plugs aswell as a Voltage Regulator with a Grounding Kit but the TL has pretty good grounding wires so ull see the most minimal of gains....but it all adds up...if u have a 6MT ull see very good gains...
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 01:57 AM
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wait... Tein made the Flex version for our car? if so, i have to go pick one up!
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Good list NFL
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Let me know if you need any of those parts as I am an Official Vendor for Acurazine and can give you good prices.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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for sure i will, im still confused on which part to get, i want to do a simpe first time performance mod, nothing to hardcore
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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tein DID NOT make the flex for our TL
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lokius
tein DID NOT make the flex for our TL
sorry my bad...was thinking of a lot of things to list....but TEIN and EIBACH are the companies u want to stick with when it comes to suspension unless your getting a-spec.

Originally Posted by villain
for sure i will, im still confused on which part to get, i want to do a simpe first time performance mod, nothing to hardcore
your best bet would be to get a cold air intake...if your looking for a good starter mod. the AEM the most common among the intakes aswell as the intake is the most common performance mod. if your still looking for performance im sure that you could get the comptech exhaust but if u want to go cheaper get a custom magnaflow setup...most local shops can do this for you..if you order the mufflers and the resonators online...then get them to weld you the piping and install it your good to go...from what ive heard about the UNDERDRIVE PULLEY that is a 30 minute install its just a matter of wether you can easily get the crank bolt off...and if your careful when aligning the belt.....
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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If you're looking for a cheap upgrade, go for the K&N air filter. It's like $40 and it gives you some power. The next thing I would do is the Comptech rear sway bar. If you search around, everyone loves it.

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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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AEM Cold air intake, then exhaust, and if you are really serious about performance, get the UR pulley and a grounding kit
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Lokius is right....an AEM intake is the best place to start! (lol) Unfortunately one thing will lead to another and you will do exhaust too soon after I bet! Then....well....you know how it goes...all downhill from there!

Good luck....but yep....AEM intake is the best first performance mod that is cheap and easy to install.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Lokius is right....an AEM intake is the best place to start! (lol) Unfortunately one thing will lead to another and you will do exhaust too soon after I bet! Then....well....you know how it goes...all downhill from there!

Good luck....but yep....AEM intake is the best first performance mod that is cheap and easy to install.
yeah I wish I almost never would have started...35k car and I changing stuff out all the time...next up for me wheels and tires...I think I am going to wait til early spring.

I like the UR pulley, I just don't want to void any warranty stuff, and when i called the dealer and asked about the AEM and the Custom exhaust he said no problem, but when I asked about the pulley he was like hmmmm I don't know about that. Of course I know a service mgr at the chevy dealer and he says they work on cars with superchargers...kinda crazy.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Yes...they are more likely to give you a hassle over the pulley than the other mods you mentioned. Not that I dont recommend it....
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NFLblitze1
sorry my bad...was thinking of a lot of things to list....but TEIN and EIBACH are the companies u want to stick with when it comes to suspension unless your getting a-spec.



your best bet would be to get a cold air intake...if your looking for a good starter mod. the AEM the most common among the intakes aswell as the intake is the most common performance mod. if your still looking for performance im sure that you could get the comptech exhaust but if u want to go cheaper get a custom magnaflow setup...most local shops can do this for you..if you order the mufflers and the resonators online...then get them to weld you the piping and install it your good to go...from what ive heard about the UNDERDRIVE PULLEY that is a 30 minute install its just a matter of wether you can easily get the crank bolt off...and if your careful when aligning the belt.....
What is the difference with the stock resinator and the magnaflow resinator? Is it better? How? Fill me in. I just got the magnaflow exhaust put in.

Take care,
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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What is the difference with the stock resinator and the magnaflow resinator? Is it better? How? Fill me in. I just got the magnaflow exhaust put in.

Take care,
CWR

what did u have done?

Check out my pics....as u can see I went from cat back...

2.5 from cat to the Y with a 14" SS Magnaflow Resonator (Straight through design)

From Y to Mufflers 2.25 and Two 4x9 SS magnaflow muffler with stock tips.

Also I got rid of the 3rd muffler.

Stock Resonator is 22 and has baffles (helps keep the noise down)14' Magnaflow is a straight through design and will be louder and deeper.


exhaust pics
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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i finally decided that im going to cut the TL's stock muffler in half so we can see whats inside. I originally said i would do this about 6 months ago and have been slacking off big time. I would do the same with the stock resonator but i threw it away after a few weeks. i (am others) switched to the magnaflow resonators because we were changing everything else out and you can make subtle changes in the exhaust sound when using different lengths. i have a 22"...same as oem, others used the 18", my next project with the exhaust is to put flanges on the pipes so i can use the 22", an 18", straight pipe, etc... to really see how the sound changes. if im really on the ball (im not) i can get sound clips for the different exhausts. anyway....

do intake/exh/sway bar first...easiest and total will be under 1000 bucks.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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FUJITA made over 17whp with their intake.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm brand new to the forums and just got a 05 TL a few days ago. Anyways, why is it that no one on the forums seems to reccomend the K&N CAI? Based on my experience, they always seem to yield higher gains that both AEM and Injen. Is this not the case with the TL?
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by True359
Hey guys,

I'm brand new to the forums and just got a 05 TL a few days ago. Anyways, why is it that no one on the forums seems to reccomend the K&N CAI? Based on my experience, they always seem to yield higher gains that both AEM and Injen. Is this not the case with the TL?
? good question. A couple of people had the injen and went to the AEM and liked it better. I have AEM and love it. Plus its cheaper than the K&N, and the Injen.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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I doubt FUJITA makes 17whp, You're lucky to get 6-7whp from an intake system.

I have read the K&N Typhoon will make 8whp. They have dyno's listed on vivid, but what's to say it's the 100% truth.
You should look at it like this, K&N will most likely make the most power. AEM will make almost the same as K&N. INJEN may be within the AEM range, but not K&N. You get what you pay for. Keep in mind, K&N has the most advanced R&D of the three.

I've never heard of FUJITA besides from Ebay, And truthfully, any intake that comes with it's own duffle bag and hat must be low quality.

When I decide to purchase an intake, It will be the K&N.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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As Anyone heard about any results of the Weapon R intake and the way it performs on the Tl, and has anyone installed the underdrive pulley? Thanks
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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I got the UR crank pulley.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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I did a google search on CAI's before I bought mine and the only acura that I found with CAI test was the RSX. In that review, the AEM had the most hp gain compare to Injen, K&N and others. The short ram was a different story. I'm not sure what the comparison is between the CAIs with the TL.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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whats a good reasonable price that the intake would cost, including installation and everything, im going to a little shop tomorrow, but i dont want to get ripped off ya know, so how much should i expect to pay?
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by villain
whats a good reasonable price that the intake would cost, including installation and everything, im going to a little shop tomorrow, but i dont want to get ripped off ya know, so how much should i expect to pay?
This is a mod you can do yourself....AEM intakes are all over ebay for around 200.00 it takes about 3 hours to install, so if you know what you are doing it should take 2? I know I could install another intake in two hours. So a mechanic charges around 50-65 dollars an hour...So no more than 325.00 installed.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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http://www.machv.com/tip11cranpul.html

Don't know how true this really is, but it stopped me from considering a underdrive pulley.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ImPo Skyline
I doubt FUJITA makes 17whp, You're lucky to get 6-7whp from an intake system.

I have read the K&N Typhoon will make 8whp. They have dyno's listed on vivid, but what's to say it's the 100% truth.
You should look at it like this, K&N will most likely make the most power. AEM will make almost the same as K&N. INJEN may be within the AEM range, but not K&N. You get what you pay for. Keep in mind, K&N has the most advanced R&D of the three.

I've never heard of FUJITA besides from Ebay, And truthfully, any intake that comes with it's own duffle bag and hat must be low quality.

When I decide to purchase an intake, It will be the K&N.
why don't you go to their site and check they dyno plots. its all dyno proven performance. and they're not a cheap company like the ebay ones. the guys that work there were actually from injen, so they know what they're doing. quality is actually better than the injen unit. they're also hand polished and the pipe is actually cleaned on the inside also. and if you must know. K&N does not always make the most horsepower. its been proven in dyno tests. and the duffle bag and hat that come along with the intake is just a complimentary gift for purchasing their intakes. and what other intake company provides the nice T-bolt style clamps as opposed to those cheap clamps that everybody else provides? what kind of cheap company would do that? none that i know of.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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why don't you go to their site and check they dyno plots. its all dyno proven performance. and they're not a cheap company like the ebay ones. the guys that work there were actually from injen, so they know what they're doing. quality is actually better than the injen unit. they're also hand polished and the pipe is actually cleaned on the inside also. and if you must know. K&N does not always make the most horsepower. its been proven in dyno tests. and the duffle bag and hat that come along with the intake is just a complimentary gift for purchasing their intakes. and what other intake company provides the nice T-bolt style clamps as opposed to those cheap clamps that everybody else provides? what kind of cheap company would do that? none that i know of.
I suppose you're a proud owner of the FUJITA intake system. Tell me, How do you like the 17whp from the cold air system alone?

It's retarded to think that an intake system on an N/A v6 engine will create 17whp. To get 17whp you're FUJITA intake makes 25+ at the crank. I'm sorry but I raise the BS flag on this one.
Also, the nice T-bolt clamps are all hype, You really think an intake system requires heavy-duty fasteners? Forced induction piping, Yes, but for an out of the box system like the ones discussed it's overkill.

On another note, You're telling me FUJITA intakes are produced by Ex-INJEN employees? I see it like this, INJEN can't touch K&N's sale margins, Now a byproduct of INJEN is suppose to be the best on the market? Give me a break.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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anyone here put the ur pulley on yet? OR the comptech sport springs that lower an inch all around? i ordered both, along with the rsb. just curious if anyone here has had any experience, good or bad.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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anyone here put the ur pulley on yet? OR the comptech sport springs that lower an inch all around? i ordered both, along with the rsb. just curious if anyone here has had any experience, good or bad.
I have the crank pulley, aem cai and comptech exhaust. I am running better times with my 3rd generation TL auto than most people on this site. The ones without a supercharger. My best time was 14.35 at 98.8 mph 0-60 5.80
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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I have the crank pulley, aem cai and comptech exhaust. I am running better times with my 3rd generation TL auto than most people on this site. The ones without a supercharger. My best time was 14.35 at 98.8 mph 0-60 5.80

Post track times only please.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by True359
Hey guys,

I'm brand new to the forums and just got a 05 TL a few days ago. Anyways, why is it that no one on the forums seems to reccomend the K&N CAI? Based on my experience, they always seem to yield higher gains that both AEM and Injen. Is this not the case with the TL?
Hi everyone I am new to the forums as well. I previously had a K&N CAI installed on my last car -- 97 Accord Auto -- and loved the sound produced as well as the response from flooring it. With the 06 TL CAI it is alot quieter until it hits about 4000 rpm (i could be wrong) but I still feel the power gains. The only thing about the 06 TL kits at this point in time is that it is not CARB legal (yet)

I also asked what the kit retails for, one of the guys in R&D told me it was retailing at qbout $385 Luckily enough I got mine for free

side note: got the accord one for free too
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by againstallodds1
I have the crank pulley, aem cai and comptech exhaust. I am running better times with my 3rd generation TL auto than most people on this site. The ones without a supercharger. My best time was 14.35 at 98.8 mph 0-60 5.80

you didnt have any problems with the ur pulley robbing too much power from the accessories? i live in Texas and hit can get wicked hot...dont want my a/c to suffer...
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Nothing that I can notice. I do live in NJ and it is around 30-40 degrees everyday. So I cant be to accurate about the accessories, I know the air feels as cold as it did with the stock air. Power steering no difference either. I cant tell any difference, except more power. I think it is my favorite mod.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TCMS
Post track times only please.
First Second Third
R/T .326 .333 .140
60' 2.281 2.307 2.465
330 6.247 6.276 6.541
1/8 9.438 at 76.37 mph 9.459 at 76.53 mph 9.806 at 74.168 mph
990 12.133 12.141 12.559
1/4 14.528 at 98.05 mph 14.527at 98.24 mph 14.997at 96.49 mph

These times were done at atco raceway in NJ. The temp was below freezing at 29 degrees. The engine was running good, but tires were too cold. Off the line it spun too much and my 60' was bad because of it.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ImPo Skyline
I suppose you're a proud owner of the FUJITA intake system. Tell me, How do you like the 17whp from the cold air system alone?

It's retarded to think that an intake system on an N/A v6 engine will create 17whp. To get 17whp you're FUJITA intake makes 25+ at the crank. I'm sorry but I raise the BS flag on this one.
Also, the nice T-bolt clamps are all hype, You really think an intake system requires heavy-duty fasteners? Forced induction piping, Yes, but for an out of the box system like the ones discussed it's overkill.

On another note, You're telling me FUJITA intakes are produced by Ex-INJEN employees? I see it like this, INJEN can't touch K&N's sale margins, Now a byproduct of INJEN is suppose to be the best on the market? Give me a break.
no i am not an owner of a FUJITA intake system. but i believe dyno's. and dyno's don't lie. so why don't you take a look at their dyno plot on their website. and the tbolt clamps are on there to give the system a cleaner look. just because K&N is a bigger company doesn't make their intakes so much more superior to everyone else. and their large sales margins are partly due to the fact that they make filters not just whole intake systems and look at their wide variety of cars they make it for. how many times have you read an intake comparison test? i've read 2 intake comparison tests. and not once has K&N came up on top. APEXi beat K&N in both overall hp gain. and filtration test. and a lot of the large hp gains come from piping design not JUST the filter company.
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