jjrosga

Hey guys i just got my 2004 acura tl and wanting to add some more hp. Dont know alot about cars all i know is i want it to be FAST!!! Not looking to spend alot of money but open to suggestions on what i should do first, second, and third. Thanks

Bearcat94

Speed = Money

How fast do you want to go?


Seems to me CAI is probably first. Quick, easy, available. $225 - $250.

I hate cars

LOL. Good luck...

n00blike

i have been looking into this too and here are what i have read off this forum

Thermo spacer = $100 + big increase in throttle responce. You have to remove the intake to install this. Maybe 5 hp?

Throttle body spacer = $130? + increase in throttle responce. You have to remove the Throttle body. Maybe 5 hp?

Cool Air Intake = $250(?) + increase mid rpm throttle responce. You have to remove the bumper, plastic wheel well, and tire. Maybe 6-8 HP

I think with all those you will get a nice responding car. OOh and looking into the exhaust mods to make you car sound nicer!

ballinfizzle89

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I thought those 2 came together?

I hate cars

What do you want out of your car? If you're mostly interested in 1/4 mile stuff, unfortunately, nitrous is the only way of getting any decent power for under $1K. I don't like the stuff but with the blowers being $4K+ and all of these little mods adding up to maybe 20hp, a small 75 shot would wake it up nicely. Again, I don't like nitrous and prefer a turbo or blower anyday, but if I wanted my TL to be decently fast, I would use nitrous.

I honestly couldn't justify to myself spending $120 on a plastic spacer and $250 on a piece of pipe and filter to pick up maybe 10hp.

Weight reduction in the form of spare tire, jack, sub, and boat anchor; gutting the cats, and drop in K&N with removal of the resonator and plumbing would do just fine.

$48 later you've just picked up the same power as spending $1,200 on the high flow cats and exhaust, and aftermarket CAI. Yes, I know some people hate people like me that hate cats lol.

stillhere153

iTrader: (1)

p2r makes just a throttle body spacer which is $80
outlaw engineering makes a thermo block spacer kit which comes with a throttle body spacer but it is nothing like the p2r one...

Bearcat94

Awww, what the heck. The first 286 HP (TL-S) cost us about $127 per; $37 more per HP is a bargain.

I hate cars

LOL. I like your way of thinking... It makes it hurt less.

I was just being my usual optimistic self. This car is turning me into a grumpy old man already.

joelsaxton

An underdrive pulley is another relatively inexpenive add-on that will make your TLS faster, or so I've heard.

n00blike

ooh i didn't know that the outlaw engineering came with a TB spacer too. I thought it was just the Intake manifold spacer.

Tripnbeats

Outlaw engineering makes the spacers for our cars 100 plus shipping.....i saw another company offering a throttle spacer for the type s but its tooo big and its metal....it'll conduct too much heat in my opinion.

Excelerate

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Outlaw Engineering makes a thicker gasket. P2R makes a 3/4" aluminum spacer with 2 thermal gaskets on each side. It is not too big and it won't transfer too much heat b/c it has 2 thermal gaskets on each side instead of one like the Outlaw setup. That is why it makes the power it does.

n00blike

Im sorry but im confused

Where do you install the Outlaw and P2R things?
Does the Outlaw one go in between the block and intake manifold
and the P2R in between the Intake manifold and TB?

Tripnbeats

ehh i dunno metal kinda likes heat more the gasket doesnt help in reduction of heat is helps reduce air escaping or being sucked in. I can see if the gaskets were made of some kind of rubber material but that would add to the gapping

KN_TL

iTrader: (3)

The outlaw kit has a non-metalic spacer which I guess you refer to a gasket?

It must be about 3/4 of an inch thick, so wouldn't that basically be the same as the P2R spacer except for the bling?

FiveLiterCheater

Comptech or Progress RSB

CAI

Underdrive pulley

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Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

The gaskets are thermal gaskets. This isn't a regular paper gasket. P2R uses the same material Hondata uses in their gaskets. It's some sort of plastic like special heat resistant material. And yes they are thicker than the OE gaskets so they give a thermal barrier on both sides since it comes w/ 2 of these gaskets and the one aluminum spacer.

KN_TL

The OE gasket is 5/8" and it uses regular paper gaskets on each side for a seal. P2R's product uses an aluminum spacer and uses a thermal gasket on each side.

Tripnbeats

now we're talkin!