damn 290 is what most S/C'd members are putting down in their TL's. Pretty impressive!

 

say you guys were to put acm w/o s/c, would it still lower vtech???? just a thought???

 

how much are the pre cats

 

^ I believe they are $250 but wait for someone else to confirm that.

 

yeah, they are $249.99

 

damn i would one of these if it had no smell...

 

does your engine bay gets hotter with no heat shield on the precat deletes?
can you post some pics of engine bay with the install?

 

hmm.. i wouldnt say hotter because....

the cat substrate is what usually retains the heat, as it "filters" out the air.. the substrates act as a catalyst, and heat up immediately...

yes, the pre-cats get hot too, but i wouldnt say any hotter then the actual cats.. if anything, the engine bay should be slightly cooler (although i doubt that)

 

That's a good point. I definitely want to see some comfimation on this before I get the deletes.

 

^^^ Me too but the smell kind of worries me....

 

ah... its not like it smells like horse shit

its just a strong exhaust fume.. something you should expect from power gaining modifications based on the exhaust system

 

ask bforbrian wat is smells like, when he started his car up he said some elements shit

 

first, thanks to al who installed the pre-cats at a stunning time and i immediately felt the power boost, EVEN with 20s.

So the most abundant element in the air is nitrogen and when the engine combusts, some of the nitrogen and oxygen react to form nitric oxides (NOx) which is one of the bad smelling components probably.

One obvious one would be hydrocarbons, a long chain of carbons with hydrogens stemming from it; this is present in gas and some are not used up.

If the car runs the reactions to completion, CO (carbon monoxide) shouldn't form but no car is ideal and this gets produced too..

in the big picture, no you do not smell eggs or fart after eating chinese food or white castle; rather, you smell a putrid engine exhaust smell that actually nauseates me at times lol. it's a mix of elements and compounds, compounds the catalytic converter and pre-cats would otherwise extract.

but we don't care! we love illegal shit

 

I loved the smell of Al and James car...... will have my cats in this week

 

at first i hated the smell, but its been a week now and i love it!

 

The smell only reconfirms to me that i have more power under the hood. I had this same smell with my Sti but without the huge back fire from running really rich. But you get use to it and hardly notice it after awhile unless someone who rides with you brings it up to your attention than you smell it.

 

Very impressive! I have been away a while and my eshit procats are still in the box... man I am undecided on this one.

 

Very nice! You're in LS1 territory without a power adder and without going into the motor with 2.2L less displacement.

 

its like drugs.. i need more HP !!

 

I don't know if you should put those on. My front and rear ones are starting to deteriate; getting tiny burt pieces. It seem to effect anything yet though. Still got wood...err.... power!

 

pre-cats are the bomb-diggity-fo-shizzzity

the power is there, and its noticeable.....

i had the PRO-cats on my Blackura, and i really dont think they gained that much HP too... i barely made 227whp with that car, CT exhaust, OE IMgaskets, AEM CAI, UR pulley and the e-shit cats

 

That's true! I only got 8hp/2tq (dyno proven) with mine. But at the time, better than nothing.

 

somehow other precat thread is gone. mods deleted?

 

could be? ask Astro or Ron..

 

Well it has been said that a properly modded 3.5 can make the same power as a supercharged

 

I think it's safe to say that a Type-S 6MT with these same mods could be in the neighborhood of 305 whp. I was skeptical awhile back about some people claiming 300+, N/A without a tune, but now I feel it's attainable.

 

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i was talking to Al about this, but idk if i can stand the smell. ill probably have to see if its worth it, on another car though.

 

Like Blackura said its not like an odor of dog shit on your shoe. Smells like combustion. I love it.

 

i smelled your car today when we tried going at it....

were you on the juice? i love to have fun, but its risky hitting speeds on the Saw mill.. that parkway sucks...

 

lol. Funny, I didnt smell your exhaust fumes???????

 

3rd cat FTL.... im working on it !! i sweat !!

EDIT: just realized you OWNED me on the comment lol..... couldnt smell my fumes cause ya beat me.... funny guy

 

LOL. And I thought I laid that one on thick hahaha

 

craig talks a good game but he couldnt lose me

 

OH no u dint lol. Blackura said "I beat him" . I believe ur statement regarding our cars involved the word "dismembered" I also have a good memory lol.

 

im the only clown who still has his 3rd cat in place...... i really need to get on top of that one of these days

 

really? lol i thought you were catless this whole time...

im COMPLETELY str8 piped, holla, environment unfriendly FTW

 

Resonated test pipe...

 

The saw mill is an incredibly unsafe parkway! It also floods so easily so anyone running a CAI better not be caught dead on that! I drive up it everyday and swear people don't know how to hold there own lane!

 

yea its a nasty parkway... plus it has friggin' traffic lights in it !! you gotta be careful on parkways... expressways, those are fun

 

u guys with straight pipes really need a sound clip. lol

Congrats on the dyno results blac.