MobTownTL

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wouldn't the op's set up be the better buy? i mean he said its gonna cost 3k with everything done... even if you get a used s/c for 3k still have to pay for labor if you dont do it yourself huh?

KaMLuNg

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i was thinking that too... maybe he puts in 2 tanks of 125 shot and uses them at the same time!!!

MobTownTL

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didn't you watch the first fast and furious





LOL j.k.

chill_dog

A friend of mine used this term a few years ago when I asked why she went by her given name at work as opposed to her nickname. For some reason, I just love that term.

CocheseUGA

Damn, even I'm interested in seeing it for myself.

ssmtl2nv

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I woudnt feel safe mounting it in place of the third cat, since I am slammed and live in NY= horrible roads, good luck to the op.

Meek32v6

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I would love to see this - I still see this in my future.
I've moved twice since I originally planned to do this so the money always went somewhere else. Car is almost paid off now and something I wouldn't mind looking into again. GL with the setup - can't wait to see it.

I think the best setup was done on the 7thgen accord with the single turbo setup. Pipe work, turbo placement - everything was perfect for the TL - only thing missing was the tuning capabilities.

05TLRIDER

Interesting mounting solution, but I wouldn't even think about that here in MN.....roads suck too much! I'll be interested to see some pics, video and dyno charts when it's all said and done though! Good luck!

gerzand

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man i feel bad for you guys who have ever hit a manhole cover or pothole so bad that it hit ur 3rd cat.

Props OP!

ssmtl2nv

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+1

ludachrisvt

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I disagree ... the only reason I haven't done this is our lack of tuning.

I hate cars

Don't get too hung up on the fabrication, that's the easy part. Hang a twin off of each head or put a single in the battery location. The piping, oil return/feed are simple do-it-yourself jobs.

I could do forged rods and pistons for about $1,200. The crank and block look like they would take 500whp as is. Install some 9:1 JEs, a nice set of forged rods and some good head gaskets and you're done. Throw a good Walbro pump and some 60lb injectors in there. Enjoy the 12-15psi and 400-450whp you will be able to run on pump gas reliably.

Quite honestly, the fab work is very easy. The internals are very easy. Call up JE or any piston manufacturer, tell them what you have, that it's blown and that you want to lower the compression and they will send you what you want. Same with the rods. You want a stock length forged rod. I'm sure they're an off the shelf item for some other application.

Engine managment is where the project comes to a halt.

ILLustriousUA6

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man, gtfo here. lol

BLACKURA_NY

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vin diesel voice..... " NNOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS"

new F&F comes out today... as lame as it seems, im pretty excited... gonna go see it tonight

Meek32v6

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ditto - Im gonna wait til next week

I hate cars

I really wish my GN was running so I could take it to the movie. Hopefully this will drive the value up a bit.

TL|GTX

What happend to ur GN. Do u think we can put a turbo in the rear, sts offers those for some cars. But i dont understand the concept of that?

I hate cars

It's getting repainted for the second time.

You can do the STS setup. It will work but it won't be optimal. The further you get the turbo away from the engine, the cooler the exhaust gets and the slower the turbo will spool. Ideally you want the turbo as close to the head as possible. The guys with V8s can get away with it due to the large volume of exhaust but it will be laggy back there with our little V6.

Xiomaro

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really don't care what you think. Like some one said before, nothing is impossible. And i have MANY MANY connections for machined parts. hence y i don't waste money on piddly mods. i didn't say it was happening soon either.

I hate cars

Not sure who you're talking to. Aren't you the one that said "500hp to the wheels easily"? I hear the magic 500hp number thrown around all the time but reality will set back in the first time you hit the dyno.

Aman

I'm really interested in this turbo because if it works it would be epic. And this guy actually knows what he's talking about. GL with the work.

exclusivedq

I dont know man, i've seen miracles in the past, however, a picture is worth a 1000 words so

ImPo Skyline

"I need NOS.. One of the big ones.. naw naw make it two. and Harry, I need em' by tonight."

Fibercation.com

hahahahaha

greco9885

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you are so wrong about the STS setup. my friend is running twin turbos on his car. why put the turbo under the hood next to the headers? so it can heat the fuck up and heat soak the engine to death? honestly, EVERYONE thinks rear mounted turbos are useless, but they are SO wrong. my friend is putting down 650whp on low boost(5psi), and around 750 on high boost(15psi with meth). so please, rear mounted is the better way. there is NO turbo lag with the STS kit AT ALL. because when racing people rev the engine then drop the clutch, thus bringing the rev up to 2500 at launch, thus engages the turbos, so turbo lag? not at all. ive experience first hand.

also the STS kit for his car is putting down more power than the usual under the hood turbos

TL|GTX

Well everything is diff for diff cars. What if u have a auto Tl, u cant drop a clutch, u can breaktorque, but ur only reving to 2k rpm. I can see big V8's getting the most out of rear-mounted turbo's idk about the TL, well have to wait and see.

greco9885

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also, how long does it take to go from 800rpms, to 2800. maybe 1 second?

ggesq

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I also posted this in the 'twin turbo' thread- PM astro (admin) before starting a list/feeler thread. The only reason why I am not deleting/closing this thread is because you can answer some questions regarding the build.

BLACKURA_NY

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thats funny shit

banelba

Can anyone tell me how to post pictures in here or I just need someone email to forward them to. they are photos of the e-management that we just received and some more toys that were build at the shop

BLACKURA_NY

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just go to imageshack.us , upload the photos, and post the LINK FOR FORUMS in the thread... dont forget to adjust the resolution (800x600) is best

Aman

I'm assuming it's that in his avatar so I guess he's legit.

NVA-AV6

Where there is a will and $$$$, there is a way. Coming this Summer....

o4Komodo

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Was that from the TT thread?
I remember seeing the reverse intake manifold...

XxAfG786xX

interesting

BLACKURA_NY

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wow-zers....

what block is that? J30, J32 or J35??

NVA-AV6

That is a Darton MID sleeved J30 block that I will be boring to 90MM, but it does not matter which block I start with when sleeving.

banelba

Actually guys I could seat here trying to answer every single question and concern or just bring some proof, or just show up with the finish product. Currently I'm leaning toward that one. At 35 years old, I do not have the time nor the need to impress anyone. Just like NVA-AV6 said,there is a will and $$$$, there is a way.
On my avatar is the last piece of the puzzle: the Greddy E management. It has 8 channels and will take care of everything. The Ecu will not send no check engine light code, I would not use no inter-cooler. Due to the location of the turbo, the air will have a good time to cool off. We can try to insert one, and it will increase the output; the cooler the air, the faster you go, but i got to see how much more money I need to spend.
This build is base on a 04 TL 3.2 auto. But the result should be applicable to most G3 and we also decide to use 8PSI boost and the air sensor with is a 1.7 would not be affected.

MobTownTL

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*presses second shot of nos*

"warning! warning!"

"shut up!" *slams laptop closed*

*2.56 seconds later... engine blows*

lol thats what i was referring to originally


but hellll yeahhhh i watched the new one this afternoon! shit was good lol shouldn't be too dissappointed xP more interesting then the last one imo.


and to the OP

HELL YEAHH ITS A MTF'in 5at LOL

I hate cars

The air won't have time to cool off even with the turbo behind the third cat. It would take .5 seconds to reach the throttlebody from there. Still, I would bet the charge air from 8psi of turbo boost will be a bit cooler than the 4psi from the roots blower.

I'm telling you in advance it's going to be laggy sitting way back there away from the engine. This is how turbos get the reputation for lag.

Intercoolers aren't just a heat exhanger, at low speeds they act as a heatsink. I recommend using one, even if you have to go liquid to air and install it under the hood. You can expect a 10-20% increase in power.

Another thing, don't go large on the exhaust feeding the turbo. For a single feed, 2.5" should be the absolute max feeding the turbo. You can come off the heads with 2.25" or 2.5" but they need to merge together as early as possible. This is a critical area that will make or break the spool characteristics. If in doubt err on the small side.

Run a good 3" exhaust from the turbo all the way back, no worries about backpressure.

A properly setup 8psi intercooled turbo should produce close to 400whp on the TL. Don't forget, you're gaining the 50hp or so it takes to drive the blower. Even if it made the usual 320hp the supercharged cars make it would be easier on the engine since it would take 370ish hp supercharged to show 320 at the wheels.