TrustinHFDJ

I was just curious if it was worth it to upgrade the brake lines to steel.

Would appreciate the opinion of someone who has done this with the S, price is not really an issue; if this is something that will be expensive. This is benefit vs wasting time, more of the issue.

brianch

Ive been wondering this myself.

I know Goodridge sells steel lines for the brembo brakes - but I've also read about fitment issues?

Goodridge is one of the top names in brake lines and I was hoping they were good on the TL brembos.

To the OP: It is not very expensive. It does make the brakes feel more "firm" and responsive. Good upgrade but you have to keep an eye out on the steel lines. I personally replace the steel lines every one or two years.

justnspace

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the S and 6MT base TL have the same brakes.
my '06 has brembos.

I have done the SS lines from Excellerate and they fit no problem.
I wouldnt use any other lines; as XLR8 has made these for our cars specifically.

vill0169

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I have the goodridge lines on my brembos and they fit fine. Of course thats on an 04 with brembos, not a precious TL-S lol.

maharajamd

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type-s...

EvilVirus

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Stainless steel brake lines improve pedal feel and reduce the amount of time between applied pedal pressure and actual deceleration by reducing the expansion that is allowed by stock rubber flex lines. This provides a quicker pedal response and allows the driver to maintain consistent brake pressure with precision brake modulation. In short, stainless steel brake lines will provide an immediate improvement to brake performance and pedal feel from the very first stop! Although, you will also need to have good rotors and pads too. Regardless if they are blanks, slotted, drilled, cross; if they are warp or damage in any way it will play a factor in your braking. Same applies to your tires. They all have a role in supoorting one another in order to do there job right.

maharajamd

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I think mine are from Fastline, or whatever comes with the HT spec Racing Brake kit...

Those coupled with good Motul fluid was an immediate improvement.

Excelerate

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It will basically firm up the pedal and prevent that mushy pedal feel you get after repeated braking. We do offer TL-S specific lines as well as mentioned.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-248626.aspx

maharajamd

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^What's different base mt brembo to type-s brembo?

justnspace

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^none.

maharajamd

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Didn't think so.

brianch

good to know. Probably going to pick u a set when I do my brake pads this year.

i_love_cars

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There's really no point to SS lines on this car unless you plan to track it. On the street you really aren't going to notice much. The main reason for SS lines is to reduce brake fade under high stress - hot laps, repeated acceleration/braking in bursts that would normally heat up the brakes and fluid more than normal driving would, which in turn expands the stock rubber lines and creates fade.

So the SS will prevent the expansion, but if you're actually making use of the SS lines i.e. tracking, you need high temp brake fluid that won't boil as well.

I have the xlr8 SS lines (brake lines and clutch line) on my car and only for track purposes. I'd never upgrade the lines otherwise.

The best way you can reduce stopping distance is tires, weight reduction, and/or BBK with larger rotor and pad surface to mate together. But really it all works in tandem. I did slotted rotors, performance pads, SS lines, good fluid, lightweight wheels, all at the same time. One component by itself won't save you.

brianch

Rubber lines expand even in normal conditions. You do notice a difference. I've run SS lines in every car I've owned and I much prefer the instant feedback of the brakes. The pedal feel is firmer during the initial press.

maharajamd

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I agree. I noticed a difference in regular traffic myself.

But again, SS lines AND good fluid as suggested two posts above.

TrustinHFDJ

Ok, thanks a lot everyone for your opinion, on to the next

Now, perfect timing, since you've installed these lines on all your cars. What is the difficulty? or hardest portion of the whole shindig? -Brianch

Next, fairly related, curiosity:

If anything, I plan to do it myself..
It seems almost like our rear rotor is taking a beating... From what I was told, and would like to hear the opinion/fact of someone else. That the rear brakes engage first for a smoother feel when coming to a stop in many acura's? Doesn't seem to far fetched, Based on the fact the rear rotor gets murdered in our cars especially during intense driving.

My argument was the sheer size difference is the cause.. The counter is that the front brakes are always the most stressed no matter what, taking the biggest portion of the complete stop. Opinions/Facts? Too many variables -_____-

AccordFlex

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My brembo kit on my Accord V6 6MT has a much more responsive feel with the SS lines. I definitely will be adding these to my TLS in the next couple months.

swoosh

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my work here is done

I hate cars

Just to clear things up, steel lines do nothing for brake fade, only pedal feel. You will feel an immediate difference, its a very good track and street upgrade. Tires make a difference in stopping distances. A BBK does not make the car stop any quicker in a one stop panic stop, only tires. I'm getting ready to do the XLR8 rears, already have the fronts that came with the BBK.

brianch

The only things that would help you stop faster is pads and tires without touching the cylinders and boosters.

The lines are a great upgrade to improve the feel of the brakes. I find the stock TL brakes to be a tad bit mushy. But I am use to steel lines.

TrustinHFDJ

Legit, thanks for the help guys