TL full bolt-on's tuned
07-09-2013, 01:48 PM
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TL full bolt-on's tuned
Hey guys I have an 07 Tl type s with full rv6 exhaust aem cai and Honda tune.
My numbers were 265 whp and 240 wtq this was all done at slowmotionmotorsports
My numbers were 265 whp and 240 wtq this was all done at slowmotionmotorsports
07-09-2013, 01:52 PM
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post dyno graph
also you could have posted it here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/04-08-base-3-2-tl-07-08-tl-type-s-mods-dyno-891121/
but whatever
also you could have posted it here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/04-08-base-3-2-tl-07-08-tl-type-s-mods-dyno-891121/
but whatever
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07-09-2013, 02:16 PM
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Ugh... Go somewhere else other then to Cory. Lol
07-09-2013, 02:32 PM
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WOW...am very sorry but I have to say THATS IT?
the 07 TL type s usual puts down around 235 on the dyno...so with a jpipe/exhaust/intake and a tune, you gained ONLY 30hp?
Can we see the dyno graphs....also do you have the AFR plotted on them? any change of a ignition map?
Funny enough, the KC National meet, I ran a Type S which was fully bolted in with a Hondata FP tune....he was by himself and I had a passenger....we went at it and we were neck and neck....we hit it from 55-60 to 90-ish....I wish we would have kept going, am pretty sure I would have gained on him....I am guessing he had a 5AT....
am guessing you have a 5AT as well....
the 07 TL type s usual puts down around 235 on the dyno...so with a jpipe/exhaust/intake and a tune, you gained ONLY 30hp?
Can we see the dyno graphs....also do you have the AFR plotted on them? any change of a ignition map?
Funny enough, the KC National meet, I ran a Type S which was fully bolted in with a Hondata FP tune....he was by himself and I had a passenger....we went at it and we were neck and neck....we hit it from 55-60 to 90-ish....I wish we would have kept going, am pretty sure I would have gained on him....I am guessing he had a 5AT....
am guessing you have a 5AT as well....
07-09-2013, 02:42 PM
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Might be a 6spd....remember guys, every dyno reads differently. Yonkersracing here put down 197 bolt on/tuned RSX Type S, and 228 on another with the same mods. Before/after on the same dyno is all that matters, not he 'actual' numbers.
With that said, post the graphs OP. I'm assuming you did a few baseline runs prior to tuning. What were the numbers before?
With that said, post the graphs OP. I'm assuming you did a few baseline runs prior to tuning. What were the numbers before?
07-09-2013, 03:50 PM
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Actually that dyno, unless they switched, should read high. I think it's a dynapack.
When I ran my bone stock 04 6MT on that dyno, if I recall, I put down 242 or 244. Lol
When I ran my bone stock 04 6MT on that dyno, if I recall, I put down 242 or 244. Lol
07-09-2013, 07:36 PM
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30 HP without any internals is pretty good...HP is hard to come by without force induction...unless you do internal work.
WOW...am very sorry but I have to say THATS IT?
the 07 TL type s usual puts down around 235 on the dyno...so with a jpipe/exhaust/intake and a tune, you gained ONLY 30hp?
Can we see the dyno graphs....also do you have the AFR plotted on them? any change of a ignition map?
Funny enough, the KC National meet, I ran a Type S which was fully bolted in with a Hondata FP tune....he was by himself and I had a passenger....we went at it and we were neck and neck....we hit it from 55-60 to 90-ish....I wish we would have kept going, am pretty sure I would have gained on him....I am guessing he had a 5AT....
am guessing you have a 5AT as well....
the 07 TL type s usual puts down around 235 on the dyno...so with a jpipe/exhaust/intake and a tune, you gained ONLY 30hp?
Can we see the dyno graphs....also do you have the AFR plotted on them? any change of a ignition map?
Funny enough, the KC National meet, I ran a Type S which was fully bolted in with a Hondata FP tune....he was by himself and I had a passenger....we went at it and we were neck and neck....we hit it from 55-60 to 90-ish....I wish we would have kept going, am pretty sure I would have gained on him....I am guessing he had a 5AT....
am guessing you have a 5AT as well....
07-09-2013, 09:04 PM
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Looks like an auto and it's done on a Dynapack Dyno so it's a hub dyno and not a roller. Even though a dyno pack you take off the wheels, this does not mean its not fw hp. For Dynopack, the readings can be set and most of the time reads higher than most roller dynos. Just look at Church's dyno. I might have to add 10-15 more hp's on to get a more accurate number if it was done on a dynojet.
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07-09-2013, 11:28 PM
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OP when you say honda tune... Can u elaborate? What device does honda use or what device did honda provide?
07-10-2013, 07:06 AM
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Oh, o.k
07-10-2013, 08:23 AM
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Drivetrain losses for the manual is about 15% or 40 HP and the auto is about 23% or 60 HP. On a side note, the drive train loss does not increase as the engine power goes up, so many I have spoke to have the idea that the losses are always a set %. Dispite running double the factory power, my drivetrain loss has not changed ( still 40 HP ) now about 10% loss.
07-10-2013, 10:42 AM
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^^^ Chris the loses are insane...
The type S is rated at 289HP @ the crank....
The typical 5AT puts down ~235 and the typical 6MT puts down ~250....which means the AT is loosing 54HP which is ~20% and the MT is loosing 39 which is ~12-13%
The type S is rated at 289HP @ the crank....
The typical 5AT puts down ~235 and the typical 6MT puts down ~250....which means the AT is loosing 54HP which is ~20% and the MT is loosing 39 which is ~12-13%
That is insane. Well put.
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also, the reason I felt the gains for the guy were not great because I know the MS3 with the right tuning can gain ~25whp and 25wtq....
so with jpipe/intake/exhaust, I would have expected atleast 35+whp total....
PS: am just thinking out loud....
OP can you post your map's for ign and afr?
so with jpipe/intake/exhaust, I would have expected atleast 35+whp total....
PS: am just thinking out loud....
OP can you post your map's for ign and afr?
07-11-2013, 12:03 PM
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^^^ can you post the graph? also, when you say full RV6 exhaust, jpipe and exhaust? or PCD's as well or HFC's?
Just for lazy people:
07 Tl type s
MODS: full rv6 exhaust, aem cai and Hondata tune
numbers: 265 whp and 240 wtq
Just for lazy people:
07 Tl type s
MODS: full rv6 exhaust, aem cai and Hondata tune
numbers: 265 whp and 240 wtq
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holy mother of mojo @ the pic LOL
here you go:
here you go:
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dat torque curve 
Brennan by any chance do you/they have the AFR/Timing chart?
Brennan by any chance do you/they have the AFR/Timing chart?
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here you go...
and I hope they tuned you to be in the 13.x range and not in the higher 10.x.....even SC and turbo guys dont run THAT RICH
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