are these parts all the same in the base TL as in the Type s?

im thinking of picking these off a written off TL and have them P&P and slap em on my type s.

is it possible?

i drive my TL everyday so im trying to prevent downtime.

 

I'm pretty sure they are the same but, why so much work for so little gain? I might do this for a race engine or if I had way too much $$$ but , the gains have to be small I'd any.

 

Runners and maybe the TB are the same but I'm pretty sure the manifolds themselves were different. Acuraoemparts.com seems to agree about the manifolds

04-06
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

TL-S
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

 

isnt the tl-s manifold made of a different type of metal? its supposed to be lighter.

 

Well I've been adding up the power that some guys here have got from their pnp parts and it seems that if I get this all done plus the TB bored and bitterly changed it may result in 15-20whp and roughly same increase in torque. That's not bad considering I could all cost around 1k I'm estimating. I'm trying to squeeze every last bit of NA power I can out of my TL.

 

15-20whp? I really doubt that, especially with stock cams and tune.

 

I followed 1 tread about Pnp and didn't see it out to the end. Are you removing the butterflys inside the intake? What parts are pnping?

 

That and many PNP and lose power in the end. OP, definitely save your $1k and put it to something more proven to provide gains.

 

I'm really glad you asked this question because I am thinking about doing the same thing. I think the 07-08 base and type s manifold is cast from magnesium and the 04-06 manifold is cast from aluminum. I really want to find out the weight difference and if a magnesium will fit on my 06 TL. The newer manifold also looks like it has more accessible areas to do a pnp.

 

kool, thanks so far guys.

 

You won't get anywhere near 15-20 whp. You may get 5-10, but then it shouldn't cost $1,000 either. Maxbore will do the TB for $195 and if you're paying any more than 300-400 for the porting on the intake and runners, it's too much. The runners are simple to do. Find a local machine shop with a flow bench. With all the basic bolt-ons already on your car, it's only going to get more expensive from here on, if you stay N/A. $100 per whp will likely be the norm.

 

I am currently working on this project...

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/08-mt-type-s-pnp-manifold-824214/

The only thing that I had done was the port and polished intake runners...It produced 4whp/6tq...Not bad at all...Im going with maxbore to complete the whole matching of tb and im heatshield spacers and they will bore my TB matching it with the IM and p2r spacer.

Shipping cost abut 40$
TB $190
IM bore and matching top and bottom with runners $140

The bore of the TB will have a new butterfly, make sure you say the mods and specs of your car. On the TSX Forums...the was a dude around here that got his TB bored 3mm from stock...work done with kingmotorsports and yielded 6whp/3tq. I do not recall his intake and exhaust mods done at the time.

Taking into account 6whp on a 2.4L engine its only a matter of gaining slightly larger numbers by a 3.5L engine. In my case the runners are all ready done and that was 6whp...with a TB bored and full match of all parts...Im expecting about 6-8whp more...Total from 12whp to 14whp...Hopefully this will help me break the 300whp mark...

NOTE: I am only boring intake manifold to match the intake runners, boring the intake manifold opening to match the TB...no polish will be done...This will reduce the amount of risk of loosing hp and tq on a N/A engine.

 

That was ecactly the kinda info i was looking for. Thanks man.

 

I always forget if you are tuned or not. If I remember correctly, you aren't. If you were to get a tune with these added modifications, you would without a doubt see more power. After your car is tuned (if I'm correct), I wouldn't be surprised to see 320+whp/280wtq.

 

please tell me you guys are flow bench testing the intake mani... porting and polishing aint worth shit if you don't have bench numbers.

 

The 3.5 in the TL-S uses a magnesium IM... whereas the 3.2 in used an aluminum IIRC. --


edit - duh, saw someone answered it above...

 

Yeah mine it is all flow bench tested...There are other ways of working on this mod...You can get the 09 TL IM slightly lighter because its shorter...But then again too expensive...If you get the 09 TL TB its like $650 to $700 bucks stock...It aint worth the money....My car is not tuned...all numbers are strictly from bolt on adds....There was a dude around here CBR169 with a 3.2 TL...ran 13.39@103mph...His 60ft was 1.9 secs...that is extremely good hook up...I got the same tire set up as him for the track...he had a custom made 3 in exhaust with pulley, CAI and runners done...No TB mod made...I should be able to break those numbers...still extremely respectable #'s for NA TL...
I truly believe that with all the matching and boring done...The car has to make the additional 6whp that I'm looking for to break 300whp...Take into account my 296 and 294whp dyno runs were made on a dynojet at 83F...Big difference from another TL Type S making 300 a while ago @ NY state with 50 degrees or so..These cars suffer from heat soak...and those 6 whp difference are played by temperatures as well...