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Old 08-14-2010, 01:14 AM
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Taming the beast! PCD Rasp (videos posted)

got the j pipe and pre cats on with my stock type s exhaust..but around 2500rpm-4500rpm it creates this noise but i dont know if its considered rasp or not..all i did was swap j pipe and pcd didnt touch anything else on the exhaust system. the noise goes away after 4500rpm right before vtec engages..the noise kind sounds like a cheap ricer civic anything i can do to make it go away. turn your volume up and listen to the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jii1g_s7bKQ
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The resonator has NOTHING to do with performance. That sound isn't rasp, either. I don't know what that sound is?
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I think it is from your pcd. The pcd gives it the semi raspy tone. Many TL owners who have the rv6, the jpipe that comes with the pcd, complain about a small rasp too. I am not positive, but that is just what I think
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Originally Posted by kevino260
I think it is from your pcd. The pcd gives it the semi raspy tone. Many TL owners who have the rv6, the jpipe that comes with the pcd, complain about a small rasp too. I am not positive, but that is just what I think
I was just going to write that I have this when I rev-match a bit too high and it whines down I get a rattle and its from the PCD.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
The resonator has NOTHING to do with performance. That sound isn't rasp, either. I don't know what that sound is?
it sounds diff in person...that noise wasnt there before the PCD

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I think it is from your pcd. The pcd gives it the semi raspy tone. Many TL owners who have the rv6, the jpipe that comes with the pcd, complain about a small rasp too. I am not positive, but that is just what I think
im 100% sure thats whats causing the noise...the sound wasnt there before i swapped out the PCD

i double checked everything is there are no leaks what so ever...so im wondering what can i do to kill the rasp
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You sure all the bolts are lined up correctly on the J-pipe and PCD's? Sounds like air/hissing. Almost like a BOV..
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Wow. I just had a Déjà vu moment. I think that I seen this thread before in the past.

XLR8 J-pipe install.......Not liking the sound! (click here)
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
You sure all the bolts are lined up correctly on the J-pipe and PCD's? Sounds like air/hissing. Almost like a BOV..
yes im sure...its not air hissing its too hard to explain the sound and the camera doesnt capture the true sound...but that noise shouldnt be there.....to be honest it sounds like a slinky hitting each other lol
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could it be because the v3 long tube j pipe gets rid of the 3rd cat?

anyone else with the same combo having any issues?
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Ive seen topics like this many times, but I forget what people end up doing.
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i know the exaaact sound! lol just got mine put on a week ago and i checked also to see if there were any leaks...in my video u cant hear it either... but it sounds really ricy and a tad just a liiiittle bit like its supercharged or something it hard to explain
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Ok everyone here it is... listen to the zzz part not the deep sound the ricey tone is defintly from the precat deletes
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0WYx...eature=related
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Originally Posted by kevino260
Ive seen topics like this many times, but I forget what people end up doing.
ended up getting from richie and he said use a magnaflow resonator part #10416....i asked him if this will get rid of the rasp but i havnt gotten a text back from him...(prob went to bed)

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i know the exaaact sound! lol just got mine put on a week ago and i checked also to see if there were any leaks...in my video u cant hear it either... but it sounds really ricy and a tad just a liiiittle bit like its supercharged or something it hard to explain
i saw ur video but it sounded soooo good...i thought i was the only have having issues with his sound
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ha nah unfortunely in my vid u only get to hear the best of it cuz if u notice i floor it at the perfect timing just slightly before vtec at like 4600 and it prowls. but in person it gets annoying a hell for everyday driving
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Originally Posted by Tmarks91
ha nah unfortunely in my vid u only get to hear the best of it cuz if u notice i floor it at the perfect timing just slightly before vtec at like 4600 and it prowls. but in person it gets annoying a hell for everyday driving
yeah i wouldnt be able to listen to this everyday...im thinking about going back to stock cats..

im glad im not the only one with this problem hopefully we can get this raspiness gone
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Ya i know, i sure hope so also i have no ideaaa though as of now it sounded nice and deep for me also before the precats
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Originally Posted by Tmarks91
Ya i know, i sure hope so also i have no ideaaa though as of now it sounded nice and deep for me also before the precats
me too bro...i might go back i loved how nice the exhaust sounded with just the j pipe

i got a text from richie my question was if the magna flow resonator will get ride of the rasp his exact words are "yes it should"

can anyone else confirm this before i start cutting away at my exhaust
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dont have the v3/v2 pcd combo just yet, but when i did install dynomax resonator i did have a hissing sound much like yours for the first few days then it gradually went away...drive your s around for a week or so and see if it goes away
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ill give that a shot
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Hopefully it works for me too cuz ive had mine on for a good 4 or 5 days and the noise isnt getting much better
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I'm playing with a 3" custom with my turbo setup and without any resonator and Aero Turbines, the rasp was bad.

Added an AR-30 and now it's just too loud. Next step is another AR-30.

The video in the first post sure sounds like mine when I had a crack in a weld. But if you've already checked for leaks have you looked inside the pipes for any imperfections or something in the path of the exhaust flow?
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Have you checked the whole way down the exhaust, to make sure you're not vibrating against a heat shield or something?

Also, I agree with KN_TL. The video sounded like an exhaust leak or something, and older version PCD's had an issue with breaking at the welds.

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Yepp checked EVERYTHING and it still sounds raspy
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Did you reuse any old gaskets, or were they all replaced with fresh ones?
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Innacurate mentioned that's the sound that hollow tube headers give off in the link that was posted.
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Originally Posted by killersrt
Have you checked the whole way down the exhaust, to make sure you're not vibrating against a heat shield or something?

Also, I agree with KN_TL. The video sounded like an exhaust leak or something, and older version PCD's had an issue with breaking at the welds.
check the whole thing today when the car was on the lift

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Yepp checked EVERYTHING and it still sounds raspy
me too bro

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Did you reuse any old gaskets, or were they all replaced with fresh ones?
replaced with all new gaskets
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any 3g with this set up that's not having this issue?
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haha maybe i dont want PCDS now might be to scary to fall into the ricer category
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Rasp is pretty much a given when running PCDs and a jpipe. Don't let this deter you. PCDs are a very aggressive bolt on that will give you plenty of gains. Most people just add a resonator for ~100 installed and go on with their lives.
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So will adding a resonator help with the rasp? im confused i thought the if anything the resonator would make it worse
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op... sorry but I love how your car sounded... am I missing something???
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I swear there is a lot of babies on this forum. What do you expect when modding your car. Its a tradeoff for performance that if u cant take then u should leave ur car stock. Sorry just tired of hearing the same ol stuff "rasp with pcds" or "vibs from aftermarket motor mounts" DUH
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Originally Posted by warren4066
any 3g with this set up that's not having this issue?
wondering the same thing???

Originally Posted by Richie v6
Rasp is pretty much a given when running PCDs and a jpipe. Don't let this deter you. PCDs are a very aggressive bolt on that will give you plenty of gains. Most people just add a resonator for ~100 installed and go on with their lives.
richie is right...the PCD will give you plenty of gains its a night and day difference. im gonna try the magnaflow resonator to see if it kills the rasp if not i guess im just gonna have to try and live with it

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I swear there is a lot of babies on this forum. What do you expect when modding your car. Its a tradeoff for performance that if u cant take then u should leave ur car stock. Sorry just tired of hearing the same ol stuff "rasp with pcds" or "vibs from aftermarket motor mounts" DUH
so your calling me a baby? alot of ppl on here will agree with me that the rasp makes the car sound ricer...like a POS civic. maybe your ok with a raspy car but im not there members on here that have PCD's and have no rasp at all.

im not complaing about richies products all i asked was is there a way to get rid of the rasp because i dont like the sound that it makes. if your so tired of hearing about peoples questions and opinions then maybe you shouldnt post on here
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I am looking into getting Richies PCD's, but after I get his exhaust. mybe it's the rest of your exhaust that might be causing the issue?? I dunno, right now I have richies J-pipe, and I am just waiting for my exhuast from Richie, after that, i will give the PCD's a try. I will ask BostonSilvertypes if he has the same issue, when I asked him about the PCD's he never mentioned any raspy noise issue, but maybe cause I was asking about the smell. either way, I will have to accept the ricer sound for the gains. You can't always get what you want...
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I'm sure that I will be another person complaining about the raspy sound after I install my PCD's. I just want to see the power gains when paired with the Richie's J-pipe and exhaust. If i really can't stand it then the PCD's will be going to the black market because if I am thinking right, with The "true dual exhaust," there will be no place to add a resonator... correct?
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Originally Posted by Tmarks91
So will adding a resonator help with the rasp? im confused i thought the if anything the resonator would make it worse
No, it will definitely help the rasp. It will also tone down the volume if it's too loud but it's all dependent on the size (diameter and length).

I think I mentioned that I wanted a pretty quiet exhaust in my first custom setup and used a 6X36 muffler in the middle but I didn't have rasp.

This round, I had tons of rasp. I got a true resonator from Aero that is only 6X12 and it got rid of most of the rasp but it's still loud. I have every dickwad in town wanting to race me. So I am waiting for a 2nd resonator to arrive.
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Here are some resonators I found.


14"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10416/10002/-1
18"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10426/10002/-1
22"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10436/10002/-1
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Sounds like something is loose.
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Check out magnaflow 12640 if you have a 2.5" mid pipe. High quality 27" resonator.

This made my Tsudo exhaust go from super loud, droaning to the point it was rattling my car, to no droan whatsoever. Popping/rasp when shifting went away too.

I'm installing PCD's tomorrow i'll get a vid up on here. It'll just be the 12640 i'm running strait pipes out the back with stock tips.


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