Now I went on youtube and searched to see if there were any supercharged tl's... to my suprise there were a few. I seen some that were impressive. I then seen one that was supposedly 450hp, is that possible for a tl? I am buying a modified cobra and plan to have it paid off for by summer of 08'. A 600hp+ car is not always the best DD with how gas prices are going so it will be more of a weekend car. So I was thinkin about buyin an 08 TL and doing some performance upgrades to the car. I want it relativitly fast, but a good DD. Now what are these TL engines capable of? is there any specific sites I can go to for TL superchargers? I want to get to the 450hp range if possible with the tl. Maybe turn it into a DD/ Road Course Car. Now what should I start with and what should I do to get it to that range? Now my next question is out of curiosity what is a 450-500hp TL capable of in the 1/4 ? Thanks

 

you could spray ang get 450 out of a tl....I hont think there enough aftermarket parts to get one to 450 yet. As far as the S/c, Comptech is the seller.

 

well you are obviously loaded and haev some knowledge of cars...why dont you be the first to build a turbo kit..u could see 450 on 10 psi...

 

Nawh I don't want to build a turbo kit for the car. I mean the are pushing what 286 ? and thats the type TL-S. A supercharger I imagine would get ya close to what 350 at the wheels? I know as a svt cobra guy that superchargers push out insane amounts of power but that all depends on what you have done and how much boost your pushing. I would rather just do the supercharger on the car, lower it a little, get some new rims... get a limo chromish tint, as well as full basic bolt on's for a DD. Something that is a sleeper... most people that would line up against it would think 'heya its only a stock TL..." ... Definitely want one as a DD. The other upside is they are kinda lighter.

 

lol not really loaded. Just it helps when you are switching to a job that pays 4-6k a month. Plan on building the svt cobra. Probably either put a 324 stroker or a 5.4 into it and take out the 4.6, then basically add full bolt on's and either put on a Kenne bell 2.8 or maybe put on a procharger or something. I figure it will cost me about 8-9k if I do all the work myself. Should make insane amounts of power, but I should have the car pretty much paid off for in the summer of 08'. I figure gettin anywheres from 9-12 mpg in the city and 15-17 on the highway is not always good here in florida. So that's why I am thinking about financing a 08' TL type S in the Summer of 08'. Probably add the performance mods like I said and turn it into a DD/ Road Course Car.

 

I am pretty sure the 450hp tl isn't a 3rd gen, must've been a 2nd gen.. turbo running under 10lbs

the tops put out supercharged from a 3rd gen tl motor is 340hp and thats inside of an accord

 

You need to find a used 2006 if you want a bolt on SC... Otherwise you're gonna have to fab some mouting brackets and such (easy stuff there), and deal with a proper tune (custom tuni map, custom greddy emanage... etc.).
There's noone out there with a SC'd TL-S yet. Lookinco built a 3.5L SC 2005... but noones ever seen a dyno, and he's reporting a blown headgasket.

 

Uh yea there is. According to youtube there is, seeing as I watched a few videos. I am sorry but no stock TL will run like some of the videos I have seen.

 

You say that with such confidence, yet reference such a credible source... "youtube"...
I guess you believe everyhting you see on TV too.

Post the link...

Noone here has seen a SC'd Type-S, and there are MANY chomping at the bit for one. If it had been done and documented on the web, I have all the confidence in the world there would be a 10+ page thread of folks drooling on it..

Comptech doesn't make a SC for the 3.5L yet. To install the 3.2L supercharger on a 3.5L motor would be rather trivial, but the critical part is the tuning...

It will probably bolt right on...

The hard part is that there's no aftermarket fuel management system (think Greddy E-manage) for the TL. Lookinco supposedly reverse engineered a Greddy E-manage from an Accord wiring harness, and made it work using a boomslang harness. Hondata is workign ona complete chip tune for the 3.2L as well...

But the SC would probabaly warrant a slightly larger pulley to provide more volume to fill that .3L displacement, injectors, and fuel management to work properly.

 

SnakeBite2,

I doubt you could make 400 wheel horsepower with the 3.2L and the small Eaton M62. You would need at least an Eaton M90 with a GEN-V case and an intercooler.

The 3.2L with it's high compression ratio is not blower friendly at all. Whatever you gain during increased boost pressure will be lost when timing is retarded to reduce the knock sensitivity. Unless you can cool the air charge.

As for the Cobra, I have lots of experience there and here is what I can tell you. First, the 5.4L is not a wise choice due to it's longer stroke. More friction loss since the pistons have to travel further in the bore. I have never seen a 5.4L N/A car ever make more power than 4.6L N/A car with similar modifications. There is just no support in the aftermarket in terms of intakes for the 5.4L.

When you supercharge the 5.4L you level the playing field, except you have to remember the stroke is always going to hurt you. Sure you'll make a ton more torque but not much more horsepower.

The 2003-2004 Cobra engine is stout and able to handle 800-1,000 HP without much of a problem...all things being equal of course. I don't think you'll have any trouble making 500 plus RWHP with the Cobra.

We took a 2004 Mystichrome convertible Cobra and added a full Bassani exhaust, SCT MAF, SCT tune (by Jerry), smaller blower pulley and a cold air kit. The RWHP was in the 485 range with 14-psi of boost. The baseline pulls on the dynojet were 380 RWHP (SAE). The extra 100 RWHP made the owner smile from ear to ear plus the A/F ratio was 11.5:1 across the graph. Safe and powerful and still using the Eaton M112 factory blower.

Most cars that switch to the Lysholm or AutoRotor blower run about 100 RWHP higher at the same boost levels. So you can easily see 600 RWHP without even touching the engine. Then the fuel system starts to become a problem.

Stick with the 4.6L. If you go N/A use an aluminum 2V. If you go custom blown, grab a WINDSOR cast iron 4.6L 2V engine.

A-Train

 

A 450 WHP FWD car, not a good DD in my opinion.

 

I Am Just Thinking About The 5.4...i Am Kinda Up In The Air With The 324 Though With The Kb2.8 As Well. Idk. If I Were To Decide To Go Towards The Procharged Or The Vortech That Is Not Smart To Have On The Stock Block With High Boost. Its Like A Tickin Time Bomb. The Stock Block Is Only Good For The Kb, Whipple And The Turbo Set Up's. Not Really Sure What I Am Going To Do. I Mean I Could Always Do A Twin 61mm...thats Insane Or Do A Twin 57mm.

 

I don't see the TL as a road course car. Sure you could throw some coils, RSB, light weight wheels on it and have some fun, but I don't see it being competitive.

Also for what you're spending on gas between 2 cars, it would probably equal the gas in driving the cobra daily. Plus a car payment in the TL.......

Just a thought.

 

no way could you make 450hp with a supercharger on a TL like everyone was saying just not enough bolt ons and engine managment support and if there was 450 hp would probably be the max hp you would ever see out of a SC TL-S.

If I was you and ready to spend money like that ( obviously you dont have many obliagations) you should

1. get a 335i , v chip, exhaust, DD with like 370-380 hp at the wheels

or

2. find a 06 RSX-S with like 25,000 miles on it and go mod crazy, the number of mods for this car is uncountable and you could easily be pushing 400hp with a turbo DD, turn of the boost and get to 450 -550 hp easily

 

dude, if you want a fcar that can make awesome power and is respected, a used NSX will do, with a lovefab turbo and some other parts, it can put down up to 800 WHP.