Shifter Bushing Install
03-09-2007, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
also what is the dampener thingy that the 6spds have that cause that bungie-cord feeling when shifting? or part no? i can't find the thread with this info... any down sides to removing this? how long would that take and how difficult?
03-09-2007, 04:57 PM
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i have an 04, maybe the 07s had them removed...
its a dampener thingy that keeps the clutch engaged for a like an extra second, it supposedly is a safety precaution for a mis-shift (also said it only adds wear to clutch for those who do know how to drive)... at least this is what some member stated before, now if only he can see my question....
its a dampener thingy that keeps the clutch engaged for a like an extra second, it supposedly is a safety precaution for a mis-shift (also said it only adds wear to clutch for those who do know how to drive)... at least this is what some member stated before, now if only he can see my question....
03-09-2007, 05:12 PM
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Just a comment.
I was one of the early adopters of these.
You will never notice an improvement if you shift like a grandmother. A slow and precise shift places no force on the shift linkage. During a "quickshift" or a fast and forceful gear change, force that would normally be partially absorbed/cushioned by the rubber bushings is eliminated. When you speed shift, you'll notice a significant difference in the crispness and "solid feel" of the shift.
The guys that are reporting no change in feeling have yet to really "push" thier car or attempt to shift as quickly as possible... or they put the bushings in BEFORE they ever pushed the car, so they don't have a feel for the squish.
Drive it like ya stole it guys. This is a performance mod, so you have to make it perform.
Second, I have no idea what this shift dampener is you describe. The shift mechanism has a "counterwieght" on the linkage, which reduces the force required to shift... but I've never (or experienced) anything that hold the clutch engaged...
I was one of the early adopters of these.
You will never notice an improvement if you shift like a grandmother. A slow and precise shift places no force on the shift linkage. During a "quickshift" or a fast and forceful gear change, force that would normally be partially absorbed/cushioned by the rubber bushings is eliminated. When you speed shift, you'll notice a significant difference in the crispness and "solid feel" of the shift.
The guys that are reporting no change in feeling have yet to really "push" thier car or attempt to shift as quickly as possible... or they put the bushings in BEFORE they ever pushed the car, so they don't have a feel for the squish.
Drive it like ya stole it guys. This is a performance mod, so you have to make it perform.
Second, I have no idea what this shift dampener is you describe. The shift mechanism has a "counterwieght" on the linkage, which reduces the force required to shift... but I've never (or experienced) anything that hold the clutch engaged...
03-09-2007, 08:23 PM
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I can see Kennedy's comment as being right on the money here. I replaced my bushings during my "break-in period" and I've really only pushed it once or twice.
03-13-2007, 12:02 PM
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I believe the dampener is part of the slave cylinder for the clutch....search, it's been discussed several times before in other threads.
The dampener has nothing to do with shifter bushings.
The dampener has nothing to do with shifter bushings.
03-13-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ITL
I believe the dampener is part of the slave cylinder for the clutch....search, it's been discussed several times before in other threads.
The dampener has nothing to do with shifter bushings.
The dampener has nothing to do with shifter bushings.
Have you removed the one on yours?
03-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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07-03-2007, 04:37 PM
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just finished installing the bushing; it took me about 2 1/2 hours.....
i had a CAI, so i didn't have to remove the stock airbox, but even so, it didn't really leave much room to work with.
Aside from removing the battery, i found it easier to reach certain bolts by removing the strut bar as well.
For those of you considering this mod, be prepared to get your hands cut, and having plenty of patience. Also, the idea of using the bolt to pull out the bushing was genius. I didn't od it the 1st time, w/ the larger bushing and it took about 5X longer to pull it out.
i had a CAI, so i didn't have to remove the stock airbox, but even so, it didn't really leave much room to work with.
Aside from removing the battery, i found it easier to reach certain bolts by removing the strut bar as well.
For those of you considering this mod, be prepared to get your hands cut, and having plenty of patience. Also, the idea of using the bolt to pull out the bushing was genius. I didn't od it the 1st time, w/ the larger bushing and it took about 5X longer to pull it out.
07-03-2007, 04:47 PM
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so do you like them?
could you notice a difference? seems like some that baby their cars (and wouldn't have induced much wear on the oem bushings) don't notice, but the rest of us have noticed a considerable improvement.
could you notice a difference? seems like some that baby their cars (and wouldn't have induced much wear on the oem bushings) don't notice, but the rest of us have noticed a considerable improvement.
07-03-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ITL
so do you like them?
could you notice a difference? seems like some that baby their cars (and wouldn't have induced much wear on the oem bushings) don't notice, but the rest of us have noticed a considerable improvement.
could you notice a difference? seems like some that baby their cars (and wouldn't have induced much wear on the oem bushings) don't notice, but the rest of us have noticed a considerable improvement.
After installing it, i took 4 passes down my street. Two from 1st-->2nd-->3rd gear under normal driving. Didn't really notice much of a change. Then i took 2 last passes down the street going, again, from 1st-->2nd-->3rd gear under faster acceleration and quick shifting. That's where i noticed a big difference.
I felt no hesistation in the transmission during shifting. Each shift felt very crisp and clean.
Of all the MT i've driven, I am in love with the honda/acura transmissions. they feel so much better than Nissan/Infiniti, BMW, Audi....
07-29-2007, 09:48 PM
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there is bushings under the shifter to correct? my buddy has an rsx and replaced his bushings there and it made a big difference..i wonder if you could replace the ones on the tranny and the shifter..it would make a big differnce..
07-29-2007, 09:52 PM
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http://www.speed-source.net/ ....notice there are 2 different bushing kits
07-30-2007, 07:28 AM
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The RSX shifter cage bushing won't fit in the TL, and noone has made a shifter cage bushing for us yet.
But to be honest, it's a bit overkill. 90% of the improved feel is from the shifter cable bushings...
Get the cable bushingsthen decide if you want to go through the hassle of getting some custom machined.
But to be honest, it's a bit overkill. 90% of the improved feel is from the shifter cable bushings...
Get the cable bushingsthen decide if you want to go through the hassle of getting some custom machined.
08-08-2007, 02:26 AM
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any difference between the aluminum ones from and the brass ones from http://www.speed-source.net/ ?
brass ones are cheaper for me as it's $28 inc. shipping to canada.
brass ones are cheaper for me as it's $28 inc. shipping to canada.
08-13-2010, 10:25 PM
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Just finished this mod...great write-up and, IMHO, a 'MUST HAVE' for the 6MT'ers. I have the shifter base bushings, short throw, weighted knob, and this...this rounded it out. I'm at 73k, so perhaps my bushings were a bit worn, but nonetheless...AWESOME.
Just an install note - the cable bracket bolts (3 x 12mm) needed a quick soak of PB Blaster before I could remove them. The bushings were super freaking easy to remove - I used a channel lock around the bushing ring and pried out with a small screwdriver. I did not move the fuse block. Install time, including reassembly and cleanup, was < 2 hours.
Just an install note - the cable bracket bolts (3 x 12mm) needed a quick soak of PB Blaster before I could remove them. The bushings were super freaking easy to remove - I used a channel lock around the bushing ring and pried out with a small screwdriver. I did not move the fuse block. Install time, including reassembly and cleanup, was < 2 hours.
06-27-2012, 07:27 AM
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Hmmm...I wonder why I never thought to tackle this mod. Maybe I will! 
Only problem for me now is the poor man's CAI I put in...I'll have to pull it out to get the bottom of the oem intake out. Plus, with my throttle body spacer, it's tight...I'm sure I'll figure it out.
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Only problem for me now is the poor man's CAI I put in...I'll have to pull it out to get the bottom of the oem intake out. Plus, with my throttle body spacer, it's tight...I'm sure I'll figure it out.
J.
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