Hope some of you guys can give me some recommendations for brake pads/rotors/lines. I went and did a oil change earlier this month and service said I will need new pads soon and machine the rotors. Was thinking instead of machining them i'll just get new and better rotors and pads.

What do you guys recommend?

 

It really depends on how you plan on using your car. Check out Excellerate and Heeltoe. They're both vendors here.

 

i'm planning to get the Racingbrake UP rotors and a set of ET300s for my TL soon from mr. heeltoe. I hear a lot of great things about Racingbrake on Acurazine.

 

Look at Rotora rotors and their ceramic pads, also the SS
Lines with some better fluid is not a bad idea. The SS brake lines are cheap for a full set and help with consistent braking.

 

r u planning on upgrading all the rotors and pads? or just the front?

 

i looked into Rotora rotors and ceramic pads. how do they compare to Racing Brake? Thinking of putting Motul brake fluid. what is SS?

 

SS are the stainless steel brake lines. Supposed to not get any brake fade under heavier use conditions. You have an "S" so are you replacing the Brembo stuff?

 

thx for the confirmation. just want to replace the rotors, pads, ss lines (possibly) and fluid. keeping the brembos on.

 

stoptech rotors, hawk hps, motul rbf 600 & ss brake lines!

 

Racing Brake rotors and their ET300 pads, SS lines. No fade and great performance. Also purchased/installed from Mr. heeltoe.

 

I have never run the racing brake rotors, but love my Rotora's. I got the cross drilled and slotted version with the H2 pads. The pads feel great and the lack of dusting is very nice. I have no squeaking, vibration or other issues. The motul fluid sounds good and the brake lines are nice. I went thru excelerate for the whole package, about $450 fort the brembo kit.

 

if you're looking to save weight I would recommend the racing brake 2 piece rotor.
but thats over $500+

I just recently bought and installed powerslot front slotted rotors and ceramic pads from excelerate.
I literally just changed my rotors as my car is still on the jack stands. 39,000 miles on stock rotors and pads. I was getting close to the limit.
It seems like every one is happy, no matter what route they chose. And as you can see from your responses there are a lot of choices.


I also suggest you talk to Josh from excelerate and mr.heeltoe.
tell them your needs and wants, and they can recommend since they are our vendors.

 

thanks for all the input. i am leaning more towards racing brake. Mr. Heeltoe can please pm me your email? want to ask you a few things.

 

SS lines give you better pedal feel.

I highly recommend trying to save some weight. Going from the stock 5at iron calipers to the 4 pot Rotoras along with slighly ligher rotors made a larger difference in handling than I ever though possible. The car will track over bumps around corners much better.

RB is a great company.

Can't go wrong with Rotora either. I've tracked their BBK and they perform flawlessly. The H2 pads are silent and barely dust at all. If you plan on tracking on the stock diameter rotors you can look into their H6 pads but I don't recommend them for daily driving. No street pad is going to hold up to a track day if you're aggressive. I have a review of the H6 on here somewhere but it will probably make you less likely to use them lol.

 

thx for the comment but i won't be tracking this car at all. just a daily driver for me. i was just thinking the price i am spending on oem stuff i rather upgrade and get something better. leaning towards RB rotors, et300 pads, ss lines and do a brake fluid flush with motul 5.1. think that should be more than enough for the streets.

 

That sounds like a great combo. The only thing you may look into is their et500 pads. I've never run either so I can only go by what others have said but apparently it's possible to fade the et300s with "spirited" driving.

 

hp1kw having the same setup installed this w/e.... do you know if you reused the factory brake shims or did you discard and not use any shim... I ask because racingbrake pads unlike some others, including OEM, do not come with their own shims...thanks

 

We have brake packages on our website, which include STOPTECH/Powerslot rotors and STOPTECH performance pads. The STOPTECH components have a power alloy compound, black coating on the hubs and vanes, and in some cases curved vanes. The pads offer low dust, low noise and great initial bite and long-term braking performance.

Just choose your vehicle in the list:

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...m=brakepackage

 

i picked the package that i want its $440. it includes front and rear rotors and front and rear pads? what kind of pads are they? ceramic? doesn't come with SS lines right?

 

Yes it includes front and rear rotors and pads. The pads are a para-aramid compound. Here is a graph of how the pads rate.



If you want stainless steel brake lines here is the link for the 07-08 TL-S:

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-248626.aspx

 

You might also check heeltoeauto.com under "HT-Spec parts" for our brake packges. We have put together specific kits with the most popular Racingbrake combos there! Lines, pads, fluid, rotors, and pads are all included

 

Sorry, I have to defer to Mr. Heeltoe. He did the install. I stay away from anything on my car in which failure will kill me.

 

i pm you but didn't get a reply yet.

 

Patience is a virtue. I already replied today. You need to give me at least a day or two to get back w you man. Just for warning on future PMs.

 

I DON’T RECOMMEND anyone to buy STOPTECH Brake pads and Rotors from http://www.excelerateperformance.com,

I am an owner of 2007 Acura TL TYPE-S. I bought performance brake pads and rotors from http://www.excelerateperformance.com made by STOPTECH for my TYPE-S thinking I will have better breaking system but I was wrong and made the biggest mistake of my life. I spent about $650 for the parts and $350 in labor to install all four brake pads and rotors on my car back in August of 2010 which is about 2 ½ months ago. As of today, every time I hit the brakes my car is severely vibrating and I am fade up with it. This is been going on for past 3 to 4 weeks, so today I took my car to Acura where I got them install in the first place, and the mechanic checked all my brakes and rotors and told me that they are worn out. This after market drilled slotted and high performance brakes pads didn’t last me three months. I just bought OEM brakes and rotors from Acura.
So once again, this is strongly recommended to everyone who has 2007 Acura TL Type-s, DO NOT BUY, DO NOT BUY, and DO NOT BUY!!! (And people at www.excelerateperformance.com and STOPTECH were not helpfully at all and didn’t get my money back either or at least half of it)

 

I DON’T RECOMMEND anyone to buy STOPTECH Brake pads and Rotors from http://www.excelerateperformance.com,

I am an owner of 2007 Acura TL TYPE-S. I bought performance brake pads and rotors from http://www.excelerateperformance.com made by STOPTECH for my TYPE-S thinking I will have better breaking system but I was wrong and made the biggest mistake of my life. I spent about $650 for the parts and $350 in labor to install all four brake pads and rotors on my car back in August of 2010 which is about 2 ½ months ago. As of today, every time I hit the brakes my car is severely vibrating and I am fade up with it. This is been going on for past 3 to 4 weeks, so today I took my car to Acura where I got them install in the first place, and the mechanic checked all my brakes and rotors and told me that they are worn out. This after market drilled slotted and high performance brakes pads didn’t last me three months. I just bought OEM brakes and rotors from Acura.
So once again, this is strongly recommended to everyone who has 2007 Acura TL Type-s, DO NOT BUY, DO NOT BUY, and DO NOT BUY!!! (And people at www.excelerateperformance.com and STOPTECH were not helpfully at all and didn’t get my money back either or at least half of it)

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and how many miles did u put on them?
how did u drive?
do u realize drilled rotors make the pads wear faster
do u realize slotted rotors make the pads wear faster

put those 2 together and there u have it, ur going to have alot more wear on ur pads.

sorry

blank rotors = best brake pad life
slotted rotors = best performance
drilled rotors = decent performance
drilled/slotted = looks before performance


PAY TO PLAY MY FRIEND

 

You probably overtightened the lug nuts. There's something else going on there, no brake system no matter how cheap (which those were not) would only last 3 months.

Did you follow the bed-in procedure? If you don't lay down a transfer layer, the pads and rotors will wear quickly and they will squeek most of the time.

True warping is a sign of over tightened lug nuts.

Pad deposit vibration is usually from not following the correct bed-in or severely overworking the pads.

I've heard so many opinions including my own theory I finally purchased a white paper by GM engineers on the effects of drilling and slotting on both performance and rotor/pad life.

There were surprisingly good performance gains mostly at high speeds/high airflow against what I thought and surprisingly pad life is barely affected with cross drilling during normal stops. Cross drilling does not have a significant effect on pad life until you get the pads really hot.

 

Looking back on your post, have the Acura techs show you how worn they are. I highly doubt they're worn at all. Inspect your own brakes. You can see irregular pad deposits. Take it to an independent mechanic and see what they say, not the ones who potentially overtightened the lugs in the first place.

 

Thanks for all the great info I Hate Cars. So being a simpleton, I gather that you meant slotted and cross drilled rotors are the way to go (generalizing)? For example, I don't track my car, but do drive aggressively on the road. Thinking of getting Stoptech BBK. Thanks.

 

If you go with the Stoptech BBK, drilled rotors are overkill. I would not pay the extra money for them. I have drilled and slotted on my Rotora BBK but I bought it used and that's the way they came. They're nice but I would not pay the extra $50-$100 for them..... well probably not.

The paper I purchased showed no cooling advantage at slower speeds. However, the drilled rotors recovered (cooled down) quicker at higher speeds. It was found that the drilled rotors can take advantage of the higher airflow from high speeds and/or brake cooling ducts.

Brake pedal effort was much more consistant from cold to hot and under wet conditions than solid disks.

Pads had more even wear.

The disadvantage was when the pads got near their upper operating temp. Wear on the pads increased significantly. You likely will never be able to hit the temps required on the street and especially with a BBK.

The Stoptech kit is awesome. The internal vanes are curved and act as an impeller to pull cool air through the rotor. If I had the choice on my Rotoras to have the curved vanes or holes I would go with the vanes anyday.

Stoptech also helps your front/rear bias. The car will require about the same if not slightly more pedal effort but it's because they downsize the pistons up front to make the rear brakes do more of the braking. This actually shortens stopping distances.

The EBD has some role in this. I've purchased a couple papers to try and understand but I think they left me with more questions than answers.

But to answer the original question, I would go with slotted only for the Stoptechs.

 

THIS. But I would get the EBC Redstuff pads over the Hawks...just personal opinion.

 

I have this package. The Powerslot slotted rotors with stoptech pads. This is a great setup for just DD and street driving. I'll probably do a SS line upgrade and Motul later on down the road. This package is the best bang for buck imo.

 

I spoke to you and the service guy for a good amount of time on the phone personally and I'm sorry to hear about your issue. You are only the second person in the course of 3 years to have complained about STOPTECH products and we have sold hundreds of rotors and pads.

As I explained to you on the phone, the wheels need to be torqued to 80 ft lbs of torque in a star pattern. The pads need to be bed in properly. Neither of these things were done. Rotors don't become defective 3.5 months after installation; rotors are defective right out of the box. The fact that the vibration didn't occur until months after indicates improper installation or driver error. And if the rotors and pads were worn out after 3 months then there is more serious issues going on. You either are extremely hard on your brakes or you got a sticking caliper.

Also, we are not the manufacturer. We cannot control warranty policy. Brake warranty is very subjective. It is designed to warranty the product for issues right out of the box, not issues generated after abuse or improper installation. How does STOPTECH know whether you weren't doing 150mph to 0 mph stop or doing brake stands? Imagine you bought a new set of tires then did burn outs every day. After 500 miles your 25k tire is worn out; do you think the tire company would warranty it? That is how brake warranty is; it's designed to cover the consumer for defects out of the box since abuse and improper installation can cause issues further down the road. If the parts weren't defective out the box, which you said they weren't, then it was likely something else that caused the problem.

That being said, I don't like unhappy customers. I would have worked with you to replace the components at a discount. Or I can give you a discount on a future purchase to offset some of the cost.

 

This is customer service. In spite of the unnecessary bashing of his shop, he is still trying to make things right. Bravo.

 

How badly can they be installed to fail after 2.5 months? Maybe Acura screwed the guy over by installing it improperly so he would come back and get OEM stuff from them haha Acura 1 : djyesh01 0
Or maybe the quality of those particular rotors was indeed shit.

 

very well said...
u ma dude get my

 

Your problems likely have very little to do with Stoptech pads, Stoptech Rotors, or Excelerate Performance. If I was a mod I would delete this post as being slanderous and containing misleading information from someone making misguided judgements. There by in large is nothing wrong with these rotors and pads, however that does not mean they are not right for you.



Your breakdown here is not true....at least not significantly true. We have found no signinficant amount of wear different on pads no matter what rotors have cut in the faces. This, too, is a post which is made under misguided assumption.

SOFTER pads wear faster.
HARDER pads wear slower.
SOFTER pads break down sooner and leave more brake deposits on the rotor face as they get hot.
HARDER pads stand up to temperatures better and do not break down leaving deposits on the rotor face.
SOFTER pads are quieter but can be prone to vibrations.
HARDER pads can be noisier but provide the best pedal feel and performance.

The only main variables in rotors are:
A) Cost
B) Hardness (speaks to wear resistance)
C) Ability to dissipate heat


Again, hard to disagree with you man. Looking for a job? haha!

I will say that while I HAVE has lugs be the cause for vibration (due to the fact that the uneven load distorts the rotor) IT IS REALLY RARE. The lugs have to be SOOOO far off of torque it is not something that happens often at all. Warping can be caused by high temperature and abuse, it is not typically the case. I have only seen a dozen or so truly warped rotors. 99 times out of 100, it is a pad deposit issue.

 

I agree on the lugs. I think the old cars where the lugs were pressed into the rotor hat were much more prone to warp from overtightening. Nothing short of an impact with no torque bar is going to warp them on the TL with it's thick hub.

I've watched a tire guy install a tire on someone else's car and run only one lug up with an impact. The rim got crooked so he continued hammering away at the one lug until the rim popped so loud it sounded like a gun shot. Then he put the rest on. I looked around the shop and said I hope that was not your car trying to give someone a heads up. They hated me because I would not let them use an impact even with a torque bar. They had to run them up by had and use a torque wrench. I saw them too many times start the lug with the impact and cross thread it on others cars. I guess my only point is don't give the tire installers too much credit. They actually do the things we only joke about.

 

all you dealers can hate me and i don't give shit about you, all i know is that this product ain't worth buying, and if you don't trust me then try it on your 07 TL Type-S, hopefully you will learn your lesson too....and trust me they were install by Acura service...

and i already bought and install Acura's original parts...