Rear BBK
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Rear BBK
I've been wondering for a while...
What do you all think about an aftermarket set of rear brake calipers? Are there any available, and if there are, would anybody consider getting a set?
What do you all think about an aftermarket set of rear brake calipers? Are there any available, and if there are, would anybody consider getting a set?
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Originally Posted by type-s09
you can always get the brembo plastic covers! -not so much
Haha..I hate the rear calipers so much..I'd probably do it
..actually probably not haha
#6
the brake bias on a fwd car is ~70/30
Go big on the fronts with better rotors and pads
the rears- better rotors and pads
calipers??? too much hassle to be worth it
Ever see a fwd race car do a quick 180 under braking?
wanna guess why? and they all have a knob to balance the brake bias!
gen2 readers see my post on legend 2 piston calipers for the front
Go big on the fronts with better rotors and pads
the rears- better rotors and pads
calipers??? too much hassle to be worth it
Ever see a fwd race car do a quick 180 under braking?
wanna guess why? and they all have a knob to balance the brake bias!
gen2 readers see my post on legend 2 piston calipers for the front
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well, rotora makes (2) seperate kits for the TL.. a 2piston and a 4piston, both pretty expensive ... $1400 & $1700 respectively..
now, since i have 2 extra brembo calipers, i've been looking into custom fitting them on to my rear for an overall sick appearance and excellent braking performance...
now, since i have 2 extra brembo calipers, i've been looking into custom fitting them on to my rear for an overall sick appearance and excellent braking performance...
#10
I wanted to replace the calipers because the calipers on a A/T TL look awful, not to mention they underperform in comparision to the 6M/T.
I don't get why Acura couldn't give the 6M/T and 5A/T the same brakes and rear sway bar, I would have even paid extra if it was a factor installed option.
I don't get why Acura couldn't give the 6M/T and 5A/T the same brakes and rear sway bar, I would have even paid extra if it was a factor installed option.
#11
blackura- dont you already have experience with the rear brake bringing the car around?
I believe the pads are the same for all the at cars from 00-07
Does anyone know for sure if the calipers stayed the same during that time?
I believe the pads are the same for all the at cars from 00-07
Does anyone know for sure if the calipers stayed the same during that time?
#12
i would imagine...
the calipers were the same for 04-06 TL M/T, 07 - 08 TL-S MT & AT
they actually have different part number extensions.. like #1100015-05A & 1100015-10A.. but they are completely interchangeable
the 5AT calipers really are eh...the rears are even worse looking on both 5AT & 6MT... aside from a spending $1500+ on a BBK, your only other option is to retro-fit the brembo's onto the back... maybe ill accomplish this..
the calipers were the same for 04-06 TL M/T, 07 - 08 TL-S MT & AT
they actually have different part number extensions.. like #1100015-05A & 1100015-10A.. but they are completely interchangeable
the 5AT calipers really are eh...the rears are even worse looking on both 5AT & 6MT... aside from a spending $1500+ on a BBK, your only other option is to retro-fit the brembo's onto the back... maybe ill accomplish this..
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
blackura- dont you already have experience with the rear brake bringing the car around?
I believe the pads are the same for all the at cars from 00-07
Does anyone know for sure if the calipers stayed the same during that time?
I believe the pads are the same for all the at cars from 00-07
Does anyone know for sure if the calipers stayed the same during that time?
actually it was the front brakes on my car... and the whole thing happened because the 5AT brakes were so bad... i couldnt stand them!
#14
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
the brake bias on a fwd car is ~70/30
Go big on the fronts with better rotors and pads
the rears- better rotors and pads
calipers??? too much hassle to be worth it
Ever see a fwd race car do a quick 180 under braking?
wanna guess why? and they all have a knob to balance the brake bias!
gen2 readers see my post on legend 2 piston calipers for the front
Go big on the fronts with better rotors and pads
the rears- better rotors and pads
calipers??? too much hassle to be worth it
Ever see a fwd race car do a quick 180 under braking?
wanna guess why? and they all have a knob to balance the brake bias!
gen2 readers see my post on legend 2 piston calipers for the front
#15
Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
well, rotora makes (2) seperate kits for the TL.. a 2piston and a 4piston, both pretty expensive ... $1400 & $1700 respectively..
now, since i have 2 extra brembo calipers, i've been looking into custom fitting them on to my rear for an overall sick appearance and excellent braking performance...
now, since i have 2 extra brembo calipers, i've been looking into custom fitting them on to my rear for an overall sick appearance and excellent braking performance...
You'll have to deal with the E-Brake and Rotor size too, after you put those Brembo's on the back.
I agree it'll look good, but you don't want to brake for something routine and have the backs lock up or something.
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
very true.. and we know my experiece w/ brakes locking up LOL...
might just be better to leave this one alone... lol
might just be better to leave this one alone... lol
Is it too much to ask to have Brembo's in the rear AS WELL as the front?! Infiniti's have it...
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well I drove a car with rear bbk, and it was instant stopping power I was shocked how well the breaks worked I mean I figured eh they are just breaks... till you go into a curve at 80 and with a slight tap you enter it doing 30 (yes, its that serious)
rotora bbk (slotted rotors) all the way around
Owner: Actros
rotora bbk (slotted rotors) all the way around
Owner: Actros
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There are a few members on here with front and rear ROTORA BBK's. Actros, MichaelBenz (He had 4 piston front and rear and he did some track time and he loved them), and a few others. I can't remember their AZ name at the moment. It will help. However, there is a more frontward brake bias so the fronts will make more of a difference.
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I had installed the 4-piston on my friend's 07-TLS, it doesn't make that big of a difference in braking, as the brake porportioning (sp) valve will only allow the back brakes a certain percentage of the overall braking (maybe 30%)... I think they are more for looks......
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Since this thread is about rear brakes...
Something else I've been wondering about: If our cars' brake bias is 70F/30R, and let's just assume that most cars' brakes are front biased...then why do some cars brakes throw off more brake dust on the rear tires, and not the front, as our TL's (which I would consider normal)?
Case in point: My previous car, an A4, and my wife's current car, a Jetta GLI. Keep in mind that my A4 was quattro, but my wife's GLI is FWD. On both cars, brake dust is highly visible on the rear wheels, not as much on the front wheels.
What gives?
Case in point: My previous car, an A4, and my wife's current car, a Jetta GLI. Keep in mind that my A4 was quattro, but my wife's GLI is FWD. On both cars, brake dust is highly visible on the rear wheels, not as much on the front wheels.
What gives?
#24
Originally Posted by princelybug
Something else I've been wondering about: If our cars' brake bias is 70F/30R, and let's just assume that most cars' brakes are front biased...then why do some cars brakes throw off more brake dust on the rear tires, and not the front, as our TL's (which I would consider normal)?
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I see, blueracer. That would make sense...what doesn't make sense is the reason for having a different compound pad in the rear than the front. Still, the front brake bias would/should make the pads up front create more dust?!?!
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Alright guys, it's time for a front brake job. Here are my 3 choices:
(1)Get new OEM pads, and rotors replaced @ the stealership for ~$400.
(2)Rotora slotted rotors/ ceramic pads.
(3)Racingbrake 2-piece rotors/Hawk pads.
What do you all think? Please chime in with choice, and reasons WHY? Thanks in advance!
(1)Get new OEM pads, and rotors replaced @ the stealership for ~$400.
(2)Rotora slotted rotors/ ceramic pads.
(3)Racingbrake 2-piece rotors/Hawk pads.
What do you all think? Please chime in with choice, and reasons WHY? Thanks in advance!
#28
Either 2 or 3. I can't comment on technical/performance differences between those two.
I'd go After Market for the expectation of over-all improved braking, better heat disapation, reduced dusting and over-all looks. You *can* go Hawk pads with the Rotora Rotors if that suits your fancy.
I'd also consider SS brake lines for improved pedal feel and if you track or autocross performance/high BP brake fluid.
I'd go After Market for the expectation of over-all improved braking, better heat disapation, reduced dusting and over-all looks. You *can* go Hawk pads with the Rotora Rotors if that suits your fancy.
I'd also consider SS brake lines for improved pedal feel and if you track or autocross performance/high BP brake fluid.
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