tommy97132

So I've been off the grid on this site for awhile. If any of you remember I did the 3.7 manifold swap and my zdx throttle body swap on my 05 TL back a while back... anyways. I recently bought a set of 3.5 heads. They were milled for 12:1 compression, port and polished, with 5 angle valve job...It was 500 for the pair. There is couple things missing. Vtec pin that locks the lobes together, Spring valves, retainers, and the cams. Has all the valves in place still... Also got a hold of 3.7 internals crank rods and pistons. It got warranted out for oil consumption. So I know I need at least new piston rings sets for all the pistons... the crank perfect. But needs new mains and I don't know what color of mains yet. Also the connecting rod bearings...this is my first official build... I will take my time and get things right. So I need a lil guidance.. any advice would be awesome. Anything would help. I don't want to go turbo or super. I know I'm not gonna get 350 and above. But I'll be happy. This is what I want... thanks for taking the time to read all this.

Grand_hustle17

This is good.. What power are you currently putting down.. And did you say it was only $500 in labor?

EvilVirus

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There you go

EvilVirus

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Tommy I am interested in seeing how your build goes. Good luck

6spd-GERCO

The way I read it was that it was $500 to purchase the pair of heads. I don't think you could mill the heads, get a valve job and a quality port and polish for $500.

NvrDwn

I'd love to see how good their work was for that amount

EvilVirus

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I am assuming he got them from someone who just wanted to sell them asap

thisaznboi88

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why not go boost and make a bunch of power? N/A is pretty limited if you still want a drive able car for DD.

6spd-GERCO

I don't think tommys build will be a non dd car... I mean ...VTEC best of both worlds. 12:1 is pump gas friendly, look at ILC's old build. NA hp is sweet but requires deep pockets. A boosted TL would be more of a risk for dd duty but would no doubt be a blast.

I will definitely will be following this build, best of luck Tommy!

azeezp13

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A proper turbo or supercharger setup is way more efficient, cost-friendly and reliable for daily driving. The only way to get HP out of an all-motor build is by running high compression. I've never seen a high compression motor that's reliable.. they always blow.

6spd-GERCO

I don't mean to plug up the OPs thread here...

If you can stay conservative a nice FI setup with regular maintenance will be reliable, problem is people cut corners, HP costs money no matter how you slice it.

Compression is only a part of the recipe for all motor and going with 3.7 internals he has another part of the recipe, add a cam with a valvetrain to handle the new profile and nice flowing heads with intake and your in buisness. Don't for get fueling, tuning, adjustable cam gears and exhaust. The engines you've probably seen are poorly built with a crappy tune or no tune at all.

Grand_hustle17

Umm... It was def a 2 part question.. Still dont see how much power he was making... But o.k

Grand_hustle17

$5000 for a S/C that gives you 80whp is wack to me.... Turbo and lose all the reliability.... Im partial bias to NA anyways... Could just 75 shot N2o... Thats most cost efficient

tommy97132

Thank you evil. I'm hoping more power with 3.7 internals. More air/fuel. I've placed an order for titanium valves springs and retainer as well.

tommy97132

Yes. I got them from a buddy of mine. He had 2500$ in head work. He knows I'm gonna put them to use and not just sell them and make a profit. He also gave me the 3.7 internals for 200$. He practically gave me a head start. For that. I'm not gonna fail at this build

tommy97132

exactly. But again. I want reliability. Going force induction will do wear and tear far sooner then if I go naturally aspirated. I want a build that will last me as long the car itself will last.

yungone501

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Lose reliability with a turbo?

That all depends on what parts are being used and who's doing the work my friend. My turbo Accord was a more reliable vehicle than most people's modded NA cars I seen and most of its parts are 100% custom.

thisaznboi88

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Boost is fun!

But good luck with your j37/j35 hybrid build.

EvilVirus

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Obviously I could only answer last part. OP would have to answer your first part.

EvilVirus

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I agree with 6spd

I am not going to sway you on what you want to build; you can still have a reliable boosted car if its done properly.

thisaznboi88

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alright back on topic. I just wanted to know why his not going boost. His getting the parts for cheap so yeah. that his reasoning. Back to the build no more talk of boost

Grand_hustle17

Tehahahaa
Thats the thing... 99.9999999% seem to not have a "properly" done boost setup...

yungone501

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Many people learn on the j-series that there's not much power potential left in them if using anything less than mid sized cams. And then, after investing the gobs of money that could've went into forced induction, you're left with a motor producing no more than 330hp tops...with stock or mild cams. Sure that's decent power but not everyone understands that anything above that will require bigger cams, increased rev limit, strengthened bottom end (due to rev limit), possible head machining for bigger cams, full (custom) exhaust, injectors, tuning....the list goes on.

Unless you're okay with a max of 330hp due to the financial burden of the necessary work/parts to make above that, consider forced induction. Otherwise, you will spend lots of money chasing hard gains from an engine limited almost entirely by its camshafts design.

Grand_hustle17

I agree... Personally my goal from my 3.2 base was 290's lol.. Anything over is a major plus

tommy97132

I guess we'll find out how much hp I'll make with my hybrid setup

Grand_hustle17

What do you make now?

screaminz28

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Yup...

tommy97132

I have no clue. Will be sure to do before and after dyno

thisaznboi88

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do a 3rd gear pull datalog it. I will give you a edyno chart so at least you will have a reference point. I want to see how this works out

tommy97132

OoOo

justnspace

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Did you dyno yet!?

yungone501

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Oh no you didn't!

Slpr04UA6

was wondering the same thing?

thisaznboi88

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^ Did you dyno yet is the real question?

AccordFlex

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do you even dyno, bro?

justnspace

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hahahahha

justnspace

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Grand_hustle17

Yea 232whp stock

justnspace

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that was a joke.



Love ya GrandHustle!!

Grand_hustle17

O............ Lol