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Old 03-20-2012, 12:18 PM
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Previous VW owner - can someone explain to me how performance ECU works on an Acura?

So on my previous VWs, performance software for the ECU was very easy to come by. You stopped by a shop, they hooked their laptop up to the DLC, and 15 minutes later you drove away with a tuned ECU.

From the research I've done thus far, I have noticed it is not so easy with Hondas/Acuras. There is very little info out there about what I want to do.

I just bought a 2005 TL Navigation 5-spd auto, only has 37k miles, came from VA. My only complaint about the car is that the gas mileage is not that great. I am NOT looking at putting any aftermarket parts on the car. No intake, no exhaust, etc. However, with my older VWs there were a lot of companies that made performance software that was intended for stock setups and it helped with driveability and improved gas mileage. Is there such a thing for this Acura I just bought?
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Simple answer;
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That's what I figured...

Any tips on improving fuel mileage for this car?
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Lighten her up. She's a 3500lb PIG.
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as justin said. there's nothing.

unless you want to be a test mule and spend $1300 on a stand alone setup. sucks.

but, you wouldn't have gotten the tune gains anyway being NA. look at the NA vw engines, no one runs a tune really
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if you're doing all city with lots of stop and go traffic, MPG will suffer.
where she really shines is on the highway. 34mpg! some even have reported 36!
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
as justin said. there's nothing.

unless you want to be a test mule and spend $1300 on a stand alone setup. sucks.

but, you wouldn't have gotten the tune gains anyway being NA. look at the NA vw engines, no one runs a tune really
i spent $1300 on a stand alone setup and it didn't suck...and i'm NA.
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
i spent $1300 on a stand alone setup and it didn't suck...and i'm NA.
I also spent $1300 on the new ECU.
but i havent received mine, yet.

SHarksbreath says he's enjoying it!
cant wait till i get mine!
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
i spent $1300 on a stand alone setup and it didn't suck...and i'm NA.
oh, my bad.

'you could spend $1300 on a stand alone and make less gains than you would have spending $300-650 on a FI vw/audi motor'...that's what sucks.

i wish i could afford that MS3 stuff or the mods to put it to use, but coming from a shared platform (audi), this car kinda sucks in terms of initial gains:$$$ ratio.

first mod on my audi was $325 shipped and a trade of a bare ecu, and got 70 hp and even more torque.

so the tl is sorta 'grrr'
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The ECU probably, wait, will definitely not improve your gas mileage.

You will have so much trouble staying off the gas that it will go the other way.
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
oh, my bad.

'you could spend $1300 on a stand alone and make less gains than you would have spending $300-650 on a FI vw/audi motor'...that's what sucks.

i wish i could afford that MS3 stuff or the mods to put it to use, but coming from a shared platform (audi), this car kinda sucks in terms of initial gains:$$$ ratio.

first mod on my audi was $325 shipped and a trade of a bare ecu, and got 70 hp and even more torque.

so the tl is sorta 'grrr'

Honda motors SUCK
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
The ECU probably, wait, will definitely not improve your gas mileage.

You will have so much trouble staying off the gas that it will go the other way.


This is how its working for me, can't say out of boost and tearing thru gas like a pro stock drag car.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
Honda motors SUCK
ehhh. its a give and take. these you don't have to flatbed to the dealer once a month.

and the >8 mpg avg increase is good too!
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Bang for the buck isn't there on these cars OP. You could spend thousands on some bolt-ons and ring out a few hp's, but nothing crazy like you can on the turbo engines. In that regard I miss my Subaru, but I also don't live in fear of my turbo blowing with my TL. Give and take.
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Originally Posted by veggiemonster
oh, my bad.

'you could spend $1300 on a stand alone and make less gains than you would have spending $300-650 on a FI vw/audi motor'...that's what sucks.

i wish i could afford that MS3 stuff or the mods to put it to use, but coming from a shared platform (audi), this car kinda sucks in terms of initial gains:$$$ ratio.

first mod on my audi was $325 shipped and a trade of a bare ecu, and got 70 hp and even more torque.

so the tl is sorta 'grrr'
agreed. the $1225 price tag sucks...but, there is only one guy making these so therefore, unfortunately, he can charge whatever the hell he wants.

another reason why the tl is sorta 'grrr'...nobody makes parts for us.
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what you guys talking about.. what about the turbo booster folks found on ebay??? that makes great gains and great mileage.. if only I could find that link!!
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After reading all this, I'm not going to complain lol

I do about exactly 50/50 city/highway driving so I'll be happy with a 24~25mpg average
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Yup, this car sucks for gas mileage. I usually see around 16mpg around town, but get it out on the highway... LA to Vegas, 100mph and you'll get around 30mpg depending on how many people you need to pass.
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It's been said over and over that this is not a car produced to attract the same people driving WRX's or EVO's. It's from the luxury division of Honda and it targeted for old people like me.

Even though a handful of people are producing aftermarket parts, the market still doesn't and probably never will support the base that these other pocket rockets are.

If you wanted 'affordable' upgrades, you bought the wrong car.
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Originally Posted by hp1kw
Yup, this car sucks for gas mileage. I usually see around 16mpg around town, but get it out on the highway... LA to Vegas, 100mph and you'll get around 30mpg depending on how many people you need to pass.
I would have to disagree. I average 24 mpg (and that's not pussy footing it) in my TL vs 25 mpg in my Impreza, which is a totally gutless wonder in comparison.
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my guess is that your complaining about the gas. mine dont eat up gas and it is a S type. only because i relearn the computer. i feel sorry for tl owners that tamper with the driveby wire throttlebody. its electronic and it will F up your fuel.
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only real way i understand to mess with drive by wire is that sprint booster.. the factory or aftermarket ECU does not touch it at all
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
my guess is that your complaining about the gas. mine dont eat up gas and it is a S type. only because i relearn the computer. i feel sorry for tl owners that tamper with the driveby wire throttlebody. its electronic and it will F up your fuel.
NO one is messing with the DRIVE BY WIRE.
fucking idiot.



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only real way i understand to mess with drive by wire is that sprint booster.. the factory or aftermarket ECU does not touch it at all
reading some old threads; a sprint booster isnt great for our car.
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I did some research and could not find any difintive reviews on if sprint booster was good or bad..

however they had a great turn out at SEMA before and got good reviews from tuner magazines.. but again was it for sales or real stuff?

I lean towards bad since it is tricking the system using basically a black box of circuits.. but that just could be my fear

then again I am afraid of the ocean and still jump in
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^^from what i saw on other platforms, it just simply moves WOT down towards like 75%
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
my guess is that your complaining about the gas. mine dont eat up gas and it is a S type. only because i relearn the computer. i feel sorry for tl owners that tamper with the driveby wire throttlebody. its electronic and it will F up your fuel.


Care to elaborate?
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reset ecu.. the thread.. happy to rest ECU is usually in the current 20 under perfromance bucket
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Originally Posted by 04accordcpe


Care to elaborate?

like many car makes, everything is electronic throttle. i have learn that even though the idle doesn't fluctuate (erractic) , it affects the way the gas pedal respond to the driveby wire throttle system. if gas pedal is depress 25% it will tell the ecu to go 34% instead. get it? now this is when your ecu have to relearn and i know this secret
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^that does not make any sense.

I hate you 04accordcoupe for asking him to expound.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^that does not make any sense.

I hate you 04accordcoupe for asking him to expound.

i know your kind of slow.

if you tamper with the throttle plate your fck automactically. you either deal with the fck fuel milege or reset the ecu and make it feel new again
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Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
like many car makes, everything is electronic throttle. i have learn that even though the idle doesn't fluctuate (erractic) , it affects the way the gas pedal respond to the driveby wire throttle system. if gas pedal is depress 25% it will tell the ecu to go 34% instead. get it? now this is when your ecu have to relearn and i know this secret
Originally Posted by kingkong_dav
i know your kind of slow.

if you tamper with the throttle plate your fck automactically. you either deal with the fck fuel milege or reset the ecu and make it feel new again
Oh bwahahaaha.. I get it.. I dont come here for awhile, and I get punk'd xD..

Almost had me going lololol.. might as well tell me to change the my vtec fluid while I'm at it hehe. You guys are too much
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Seems I opened a can of worms lol
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can of worms have been opened since forever... its fun though to pick at it makes the days go by
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more like feeding stray and now it won't go away.
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
more like feeding stray and now it won't go away.

ok black panther
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^the virus, its back....or is that jacob!?
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you guys keep stepping on the gas pedal for 20 seconds ok?. hopefully it will work for you someday HAHAHAHAHAHA
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^that doesnt make any sense.
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justin if you kindly ask me how to reset the ecu i will tell you

NOTE: there is no battery involve and no on or off key position


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