Acuracharged

Yes I retuned it but I'm just afraid if I got tls camshaft 600$ I won't get my money's worth gains?

Grand_hustle17

Mdx cams cost less and same as type S i heard

Acuracharged

I heard that they don't fit. Only RL and type s cams and bisimoto work on our cars?

thisaznboi88

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^ who told you that. I am running 09 MDX camshaft same profile as TL-S. Only different is they are pressed on instead of ground so they are much lighter.
I think 10-11+ is when they swap to the dual vtec

09 mdx camshaft were like 350 for both camshaft.

Acuracharged

Did you see any whp gains with those mdx cams??

thisaznboi88

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I am 20whp over anyone else that has full bolt on. But then again I have PnP heads.

Everyone that sent in a edyno for me to graph has been around 250-255whp and I am 272-274whp.

So realistically I want to say you would see maybe 10whp increase with a tune. I seen how Paul PnP his for the last few batch and they were subpar.

Grand_hustle17

Where are you finding these prices? Lmao

thisaznboi88

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They jacked up the price ~80 bucks more now. It was 350 a few months ago.

Part Detail


Here were the orginal prices that I was going with when I was doing research

No. Part Number Description Qty Req. List Price Our Price
1 14100-RJA-J00 CAMSHAFT, FR. 1 $381.93 $279.58
2 14200-RJA-J00 CAMSHAFT, RR. 1 $381.93 $279.58

Tl-S
No. Part Number Description Qty Req. List Price Our Price
1 14100-RDB-A00 CAMSHAFT, FR. 1 $381.93 $279.58
2 14200-RDB-A00 CAMSHAFT, RR. 1 $219.57 $160.72

2009 MDX
1 14100-RYE-A00 CAMSHAFT, FR. 1 $256.97 $188.10
2 14200-RYE-A01 CAMSHAFT, RR. 1 $256.97 $188.10


here my build thread if you haven't seen it yet. I bought a lot of different parts and when with a lot of different setup before I actually start putting stuff together on my car. Went through a lot of small BS here and there.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ld-thread.html

Grand_hustle17

Yes i need to read that my new friend lmao...

Grand_hustle17

Now type S costs less lmao

anx1300c

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Have you gotten a time slip on your car yet?

thisaznboi88

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there only a 1/8 mile track here in WV. No 1/4 mile sadly. Also still in the middle of tuning with Dom

Grand_hustle17

Im gonna mix and match lol... Hey where you from asnboi?... Nvmd just saw... Was gonna say lets hit up capital spring next yr in crofton MD...

Speeden6

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so my PNP'd Mani and runners showed up today, need to put them through a good cleaning to make sure I get everything out. I heard breakfluid?

for those that have done them, should I do stock gasket ported to match or IN Spacer Ported to Match? I have heard that doing IM Spacer with the PNP'd parts causes an idle problem?

Thanks!

Speeden6

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Got an answer that with the spacer it causes too much turbulance and to use a thermo Gasket.

Grand_hustle17

Yea im not going with mdx spacer either... Supposedly their is hood clearance issues too i believe

Speeden6

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so when you say someones work is sub par, what makes their work sub par?

I want to do TLS cams but so expensive!

I dyno'd my car with just pulley and intake and it put down 207WHP and 189WTQ so if you have all those upgrades and are only throwing the numbers you say there is a problem for sure! but then agian you say your 5at? what year that you are running flashpro

Speeden6

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so for those that know Porting and Polishing. On the Intake Manifold you polish the inlet where the TB attached the IM. Polish into the IM, but looking at it you cant polish the IM all the way through, just at the inlet where the TB connects at at each outlet where the runners connect. however in between the two spaces does not get polished?

am I wrong? and if I am not wrong it allows better flow at the TB, then causes rougher flow throughout and smooths again before going into the runners? Is this right?

Grand_hustle17

Im going with 3.7 manifold because supposedly they flow better.. Port matched mines with p2r TB adapter

NvrDwn

Go, i trapped 82.5 mph. Beat it.

mzilvar

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If you see some mani's that were PNP'd they're normally cut open and welded back together after the porting work is done. Otherwise they can't get to all of those spots like you mentioned.

I don't know much about welding, but I think those that I'd seen before were probably some aluminum alloy and not the magnesium ones that are on the 3.5L and up, I think the 3.2L mani is an aluminum alloy though not sure.

The magnesium ones are already really smooth so there's really not much need at all other than to gasket match which only goes about an inch or so into the part for the manifolds.

For cleaning the best stuff I've used is berryman's B12 chem-tool carb cleaner, it literally melts the deposits away. If you spray it on you'll see them melt and just run off the part. I've also used other stuff that does practically nothing.

Speeden6

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alright, got the Intake Manifold and Runners in last night, with some Hallowed out Pre cats.

One thing I monitor is my AFR's cause with my setup there is danger to detonation. I have noticed that I am now running around 14.1 - 13.9 on the AFR's when normal is 14.7 which I use to run. Is this because any extra fuel or the content of the exhaust gasses are not being passed through a Cat?

anyone else monitoring this notice they are running rich after such mods?

Grand_hustle17

Im not sure if this is the case with the TL which im sure it is... O2 sensors monitor AFR's while at idle which is o.k to be a bit leaner because the car isnt under load or getting any gas... A tuning device should have a %of throttle where it uses a map (set by you) for adjusted afr's set by you to correct that.. However anything in the 14's at WOT is too lean.. Espcially spraying

Speeden6

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at WOT ill thow in the 12's maybe 11's. this is just at cruise and idle speed