Performance difference between a stock TL-S and a fully modded one

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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Performance difference between a stock TL-S and a fully modded one

Not sure if this is the first thread asking this question or not but...

Are all these mods-pulley, spacer, intake, exhaust, j-pipe-really worth it strictly performance-wise?

Basically, how much faster would a Type-S that has all those bolt-ons be than one that is stock? Does anyone have any definitive 0-60 and 1/4 times (I'm calling out all you guys that have those mods).

Reason I'm asking is because I'm seriously contemplating getting a pulley, exhaust, and j-pipe but if the performance increase is marginal I don't think it'd be worth it. Plus I'm auto .

AND YES I KNOW THE TL ISN'T A SPORTS CAR BUT I DON'T CARE
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:18 AM
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the dynos speak for themselves
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Well, if you're wondering if you'll feel the gains ... then yes. J-pipe, test pipe, exhaust, and intake would do wonders ... probably 25 - 30whp+.

After putting on my CT Catback exhaust, intake, pulley, and spacer .. the car is definitely much faster than a stock TL. The gains are relevant for sure.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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I think it would be more interesting to get before & after time slips rather then seat of the paints "feel".
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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I don't think this question pertains to only a Type-S so...

I'm running a CAI, J pipe, test pipe and precats (soon)... although I haven't dyno'd the car yet, I definitely felt a "better" throttle response. The acceleration lag is minimized with each "less restricting" mod you install. I haven't raced against a stock TL either but when I get TL loaners, I'm always glad to be back in my own TL, as it feels quicker.

Since I've done my spending for now (maybe ), I will be looking to get a TBS, lighter crank pulley and a catback exhaust by next summer.

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Well, if you're wondering if you'll feel the gains ... then yes. J-pipe, test pipe, exhaust, and intake would do wonders ... probably 25 - 30whp+.

After putting on my CT Catback exhaust, intake, pulley, and spacer .. the car is definitely much faster than a stock TL. The gains are relevant for sure.
dude, your not getting 25-30 hp with exhaust...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Sorry for the slight exaggeration you nazi.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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just so you know... as a fully modded AUTO tl-s... I smoked a TL-S 6speed with atlp + aem intake....
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Good thread, I've actually been wondering the same thing...

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is the test pipe? I know what the J-Pipe is obviously, but whenever I see someone talking about the ATLP J-Pipe they usually always mention a test pipe along with it. I'm just not really sure what that is...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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^ 3rd cat delete... basically you remove the 3rd cat and replace it with a straight pipe.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
just so you know... as a fully modded AUTO tl-s... I smoked a TL-S 6speed with atlp + aem intake....
You smoked a 6speed that had the atlp and intake, or did you have the atlp and intake?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
just so you know... as a fully modded AUTO tl-s... I smoked a TL-S 6speed with atlp + aem intake....
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Good thread...but 25-30 WHP?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Yes people, fully bolted TL's can gain 25-30 whp with the mods in my sig. Do some searching. There are TL 6MT's on here dynoing ~250 and TL-S's ~270.

Is it worth it for 2k? For many it's not.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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Thumbs up

bolt-ons will make you stronger!!!
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by waynema
bolt-ons will make you stronger!!!
+1 ...........
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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ifirahse, they do indeed make the car much quicker. If you want to check it out first hand we can meet up. I'm in the valley and you're in Beverly hills. I remember when kosstick got his ATLP and AEM intake. I was stock at the time. We did a couple of runs and by 2nd gear he would always pull on me. We are both auto's. Now it's a different story with the modifications that I've got on.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
ifirahse, they do indeed make the car much quicker. If you want to check it out first hand we can meet up. I'm in the valley and you're in Beverly hills. I remember when kosstick got his ATLP and AEM intake. I was stock at the time. We did a couple of runs and by 2nd gear he would always pull on me. We are both auto's. Now it's a different story with the modifications that I've got on.
That would actually be pretty cool if I can take a look at the atlp before I drop $1100 on it.

Let me know what works for you. I always love finding an excuse to take benedict canyon to van nuys.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Well I just installed the spacer 30 mins ago and the car does feel a little quicker, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it or not.

ATLP exhaust is next.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Acurazine sticker on the rear window = 20whp
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 240hpaccord
Acurazine sticker on the rear window = 20whp
You only gain 20whp if you mount the sticker on the throttle body so it gets colder air, mounting it on the rear window only adds like 8.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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hopefully it does. or the 2k i put down on mods will be in vain.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ifirahse
Not sure if this is the first thread asking this question or not but...

Are all these mods-pulley, spacer, intake, exhaust, j-pipe-really worth it strictly performance-wise?

Basically, how much faster would a Type-S that has all those bolt-ons be than one that is stock? Does anyone have any definitive 0-60 and 1/4 times (I'm calling out all you guys that have those mods).

Reason I'm asking is because I'm seriously contemplating getting a pulley, exhaust, and j-pipe but if the performance increase is marginal I don't think it'd be worth it. Plus I'm auto .

AND YES I KNOW THE TL ISN'T A SPORTS CAR BUT I DON'T CARE

I would say 15-20whp at the most, for all the bolt-ons. I did all the bolt-ons including headers, pullies, Unichip, Thermoblok gaskets, and bored out TB to my 2002 TL-S. For my 2008 TL-S, I'm going to leave it stock as I don't think the bolt-ons are worth the investment for so little gain.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Anyone know if a FULLY MODDED (no s/c) 6MT Type-s can hit 5.0 0-60?
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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^ probably tlfourplay... or illstrategy after he gets done modding if he lets me drive lol
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ifirahse
Anyone know if a FULLY MODDED (no s/c) 6MT Type-s can hit 5.0 0-60?
HIGHLY unlikely without drag radials.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ifirahse
you only gain 20whp if you mount the sticker on the throttle body so it gets colder air, mounting it on the rear window only adds like 8.
lol
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