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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Tribe, or anyone else with the stoptech rotors setup, I have a question. Back in early February I finally had my stoptech slotted and drilled rotors put on my car. I did all 4 corners plus new stoptech street performance pads and SS lines. Initially the setup looked really cool. However, over the past few weeks I have noticed this unsighltly 1/2" - 3/4" ring of rust around the inside of my front rotors and about a 1/4" ring of rust around the inside of my rear rotors. By inside i mean the part closest to the Hub. Unforutnately the brake pad doesn't touch that part of the rotor so that nasty rust ring is always there.

I honestly wasn't expecting the StopTech rotors to rust up this badly or this quickly. I called the shop that installed them for me and they assured me that the caliper can only sit in one position so its not like they didn't adjust it properly. The car has been stopping fine, no issues with that, its just that I thought it was gonna look nice and clean and instead i'm seeing this rusty rotor everytime i look down. The shop said they would reach out to stoptech on Tuesday for me to see if maybe they can warranty a replacement or if this is normal. It honestly looks horrible and if I'd known it was gonna look that way I would of just gotten the plain OEM rotors because at least I didn't have to look at rust with those on. This crap makes me not even want to get rims on the car cause its just gonna highlight my rust even more. Sucks.

Anyone else having this issue with this setup? I'll try and take some pics tomorrow and post up. Or I can start my own thread, don't mean to hijack this one. Thanks.

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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ntwillie1
Tribe, or anyone else with the stoptech rotors setup, I have a question. Back in early February I finally had my stoptech slotted and drilled rotors put on my car. I did all 4 corners plus new stoptech street performance pads and SS lines. Initially the setup looked really cool. However, over the past few weeks I have noticed this unsighltly 1/2" - 3/4" ring of rust around the inside of my front rotors and about a 1/4" ring of rust around the inside of my rear rotors. By inside i mean the part closest to the Hub. Unforutnately the brake pad doesn't touch that part of the rotor so that nasty rust ring is always there.

I honestly wasn't expecting the StopTech rotors to rust up this badly or this quickly. I called the shop that installed them for me and they assured me that the caliper can only sit in one position so its not like they didn't adjust it properly. The car has been stopping fine, no issues with that, its just that I thought it was gonna look nice and clean and instead i'm seeing this rusty rotor everytime i look down. The shop said they would reach out to stoptech on Tuesday for me to see if maybe they can warranty a replacement or if this is normal. It honestly looks horrible and if I'd known it was gonna look that way I would of just gotten the plain OEM rotors because at least I didn't have to look at rust with those on. This crap makes me not even want to get rims on the car cause its just gonna highlight my rust even more. Sucks.

Anyone else having this issue with this setup? I'll try and take some pics tomorrow and post up. Or I can start my own thread, don't mean to hijack this one. Thanks.
Yep, I'm having the same issue and wouldn't mind finding a solution. However, that being said, just to clarify - what we're seeing isn't technically "rust" which is corrosive. What we are seeing is a type of oxidization that occurs when exposed metal and moisture come together. Now, near as I can tell, it looks like the new "exposed" area where the pads don't cover is because the center hub is smaller on the Stoptech's than on the OEM rotors. Perhaps someone could chime in with some thoughts on keeping the oxidization off here.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Yep, I'm having the same issue and wouldn't mind finding a solution. However, that being said, just to clarify - what we're seeing isn't technically "rust" which is corrosive. What we are seeing is a type of oxidization that occurs when exposed metal and moisture come together. Now, near as I can tell, it looks like the new "exposed" area where the pads don't cover is because the center hub is smaller on the Stoptech's than on the OEM rotors. Perhaps someone could chime in with some thoughts on keeping the oxidization off here.
Any Pics of this exactly?
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Any Pics of this exactly?
Not yet. I'll see what I can get this evening.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Tribe, you're right about it not being rust but rather oxidation, however, still ugly and i'm looking forward to figuring out a way to get rid of it. My shop guy told m ehtat he has a similar issue and what he does is paint that actual piece of the rotor. Thats not really the path i want to take. We'll see what StopTech says after the shop speaks to them about this. I'll keep you posted.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Any more news or updates on this subject. Would really like to know if this can be prevented before purchasing this package
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Does Excelerate have any suggestions?
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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The pads only make contact with so much of the rotor. The rotors have a black e-coating on the hub and vanes but not on the entire surface of the disc. So oxidation builds up where the pad doesn't make contact. If you really dislike it you would have to remove the disc and sand down the face and then put a coating of high temp black paint ONLY on the section where the pad doesn't touch. You cannot paint where the pad makes contact or you will not be able to stop.

It isn't going to hurt anything and it is perfectly normal. 99% of discs, OE or aftermarket, get a ring around the hub where the pad doesn't make contact.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Thanks Josh.
It really isnt that bad. you guys are making it out to be some huge deal.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Can someone post some pics of what this ring looks like?
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Thanks Josh.
It really isnt that bad. you guys are making it out to be some huge deal.
Didn't mean to make it sound like a big deal; just thought I'd see if anyone else had an easy solution.

I know I promised a picture, but I threw out my back over the weekend and leaning over to get a picture of the ring sounds excruciating.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
The pads only make contact with so much of the rotor. The rotors have a black e-coating on the hub and vanes but not on the entire surface of the disc. So oxidation builds up where the pad doesn't make contact. If you really dislike it you would have to remove the disc and sand down the face and then put a coating of high temp black paint ONLY on the section where the pad doesn't touch. You cannot paint where the pad makes contact or you will not be able to stop.

It isn't going to hurt anything and it is perfectly normal. 99% of discs, OE or aftermarket, get a ring around the hub where the pad doesn't make contact.
Thanks for commenting. Appreciate it.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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its a big deal to me. If you want an ugly orange ring about 1/4-1/2" thick around your front rotors "ALL" the time then buy it. If you don't, then don't buy it. If i had known about this before hand there is no way I would have purchased the kit. I think i'm doing some here on this site a favor by bringing it to their attention. I had drilled rotors on my mercedes and it never ever looked like this. Thn again that was from the factory, I honestly expected better from stoptech. I'll see if I can post some pics soon. I ran into another TL in the parking deck by my job about 2 mornings ago and he had the same setup as me with the same ugly rings. Kit is beautiful out of the box but not for long once installed.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Does other popular brands here like Racing brake UP and HP rotors have the same rust problem? Can someone with such rotors installed please comment?
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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anybody have the STOPTECH Drilled and Slotted Rotors with STOPTECH Performance Pads - Front and Rear from XLR8? and do they like them, the last thing i want is a cracked rotor.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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When using the a-spec brake pads with OEM rotors is there more brake dust build up over the stock pads? i.e. Will I need to be cleaning my rims every other day.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyChooo
anybody have the STOPTECH Drilled and Slotted Rotors with STOPTECH Performance Pads - Front and Rear from XLR8? and do they like them, the last thing i want is a cracked rotor.
We've sold hundreds of these packages and have had no issues. The rotors will not develop a crack where it will prevent you from braking. Any time you drill a rotor eventually after tens of thousands of miles very minute cracks will develop. It happens even on Brembo rotors that come on Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, etc. But it takes a long time, 50-75k usually.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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When using the a-spec brake pads with OEM rotors is there more brake dust build up over the stock pads? i.e. Will I need to be cleaning my rims every other day.
I had A-Spec pads with stock rotors for a while before I switched to the Stoptech rotors. I didn't notice any difference in the brake dust.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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What's up everyone. Posted this in another thread as well, looking for input.

I have a 2007 TL-S, 57k miles - stock everything.

Back in August 2011 I knew i was needing new brakes front/back so I proceeded and ordered stock Honda OEM brake pads on ebay from an Acura dealer in NY that were at a good price compared to local dealers and buying pads from autozone, pep boys, etc.... As I went in for an oil change on 1/12/13, turns out my rear brakes are at a "9/10" scale and my fronts are at a "3/10". I found it hard to believe since I only use my car weeknights and weekends (use public trans to/from work) so basically my car is hardly used and since Aug 2011 have probably only put 8k miles on.

I was told that my rotors were fine when I replaced the pads and figured the next pad change I would be upgrading my rotors to drilled/slotted. Now, I'm waiting to take my car to my mechanic so he can check my brake pads since I don't believe dealer. I've been told by one dealer "you need new brakes, want us to take care of that for you" and on the next oil change at another location "your brakes are good, you'll need them soon though". With all that being said and reading through this thread, I am now torn. Idk which rotors to order and what pads to use.

Do I just replace my front rotors and pads and let the rear wear out? or should i swap both front/back rotors and replace front pads? so confused. lol

Also, are there any mods that need to be made when replacing the original rear rotors?

Please advise. Thanks everyone
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by revel_one
I have a 2007 TL-S, 57k miles - stock everything.

With all that being said and reading through this thread, I am now torn. Idk which rotors to order and what pads to use.

Do I just replace my front rotors and pads and let the rear wear out? or should i swap both front/back rotors and replace front pads? so confused. lol

Also, are there any mods that need to be made when replacing the original rear rotors?

Please advise. Thanks everyone
You cannot swap front and rear rotors. They are not interchangeable. Of course we cannot say how much life is left on your rotors or pads because we are not there to measure them. However, I would recommend upgrading if you're going to do so. We offer a brake package that will be far less expensive than the OE parts and will outperform the OE parts as well.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-304786.aspx
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
You cannot swap front and rear rotors. They are not interchangeable. Of course we cannot say how much life is left on your rotors or pads because we are not there to measure them. However, I would recommend upgrading if you're going to do so. We offer a brake package that will be far less expensive than the OE parts and will outperform the OE parts as well.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-304786.aspx
I did not mean to swap my rear to front, i meant in general of being swapped (getting new front rotors)
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