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Old 03-18-2013, 04:44 AM
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Hello,

Just bought the '04 Acura Tl / AT.

I am interested what can be done at first stage to gain some more horse power?

The 7 secs for 0-60, still isn't fast enough.
what can be done to make car faster?
just no turbo or supercharger guys. it costs much, 5K is a lot.
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first post and didnt see the sticky right above your post!
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/performance-modifications-tl-owners-701772/
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Originally Posted by 06NH6MTTL
first post and didnt see the sticky right above your post!
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=701772
i have read this post.
but actually im more interested in practical posts, like you can try for example AEM Cold Air Intake, to gain XX whps and etc.
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I understand but every car is diffferent. Mods i have now are cold air intake, light weight pulley, pnp intake runners, ultimate cooling mod, and motor mounts. my stock 1/4 mile was 14.8 at 94mph and now with these basic mods i have done a 14.157 at 101.14, so start with those definitely get a j-pipe and it will be a whole new car!
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Originally Posted by temo_O
Hello,

Just bought the '04 Acura Tl / AT.

I am interested what can be done at first stage to gain some more horse power?

The 7 secs for 0-60, still isn't fast enough.
what can be done to make car faster?
just no turbo or supercharger guys. it costs much, 5K is a lot.
If performance parts is a lot, the game of modding to go fast is worthless and go get a different car. There's also "some" mods you can do that could make a slight difference, but then again, it only will take a sec off the 60... which means it's still going to be slow. Unless, you spend that $5K into parts.
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
If performance parts is a lot, the game of modding to go fast is worthless and go get a different car. There's also "some" mods you can do that could make a slight difference, but then again, it only will take a sec off the 60... which means it's still going to be slow. Unless, you spend that $5K into parts.
i want to start with the mods that will give me 0-60 in 6 sec.

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i heard light weight pulley is "bad" for engine itself.
and motor mounts is the far future, after performance mods.
i would be please to hear more from you about pnp intake.
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i am going to delete 3rd cat, put a jpipe and cai.
also thinking about thermoblock spacers. but dont know about it yet.
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Pulley myths... people have done so with no complaints. Others blame it on it because of poor installation.
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
Pulley myths... people have done so with no complaints. Others blame it on it because of poor installation.
i guess your stock TL should try it first
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Originally Posted by 06NH6MTTL
I understand but every car is diffferent. Mods i have now are cold air intake, light weight pulley, pnp intake runners, ultimate cooling mod, and motor mounts. my stock 1/4 mile was 14.8 at 94mph and now with these basic mods i have done a 14.157 at 101.14, so start with those definitely get a j-pipe and it will be a whole new car!
so you have ralco pulley. the diameter is same as oem? so it fits oem timing belt?
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Originally Posted by temo_O
i guess your stock TL should try it first
The reason why I'm stock is because I need Hondata to work on my car first. I did built an all motor 06 Civic SI that I didn't need the Light weight pulley, I left it stock for a reason. And it's not because of the harmonic balancer if you were thinking.
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Intake isnt going to give you anything for power, its just a noise maker. Pre Cat Deletes are the best hp/$$.

If your goal is to drop your 0-60 time look into weight reduction.
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Our XLR8 V2 j-pipe will add a significant amount of hp/tq. A customer did a dyno on his TL-S and picked up 19 whp and 30 wtq in one spot.
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CAI, straight pipe the exhaust...pre cats, jpipe, 3rd cat delete, remove all resonators and slap 2 mufflers on the back. You'll have rasp but fuck it...YOLO.
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Originally Posted by joneill44
Intake isnt going to give you anything for power, its just a noise maker. Pre Cat Deletes are the best hp/$$.

If your goal is to drop your 0-60 time look into weight reduction.
Thats not true. Yes alone the CAI is a noise maker like most memebers refer it. However, with supporting mods it will gain power. Excelerate posted awhile back a 3G TL with just its exhaust and a CAI (no other mod to my knowledge) and iirc it was about 20hp gain.
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Thats not true. Yes alone the CAI is a noise maker like most memebers refer it. However, with supporting mods it will gain power. Excelerate posted awhile back a 3G TL with just its exhaust and a CAI (no other mod to my knowledge) and iirc it was about 20hp gain.
That number is crazy, but lets put it out there as "gains over stock".
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Your intake gains will depend on how restrictive your factory airbox is.
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Originally Posted by temo_O
i want to start with the mods that will give me 0-60 in 6 sec.

06NH6MTTL
i heard light weight pulley is "bad" for engine itself.
and motor mounts is the far future, after performance mods.
i would be please to hear more from you about pnp intake.
You should've bought a 6 speed. Then you'd be starting out with a car that can get to sixty in 6 seconds stock.
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^Damn I was about to say that.

Originally Posted by bouncer07
That number is crazy, but lets put it out there as "gains over stock".
Agree its still rather ambigous on CAI
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With an auto trans, unless you strip the car down for weight reduction, you're not going to shave that 0-60 time without at least $5k in mods, lol.

and on that note, the car will never be "fast". Even those of us who are going for all-motor builds with high compression, cams, etc. are probably never going to see a better 1/4 mile time of like, high 12's. That's a highly respectable time, and it's very very quick, but "fast"? No. Not by a long shot.

You are just gonna have to be comfortable with what the TL is. I could go to my local BMW dealer tomorrow and roll a new 135i off the lot, throw a Cobb tune on it and wheeeeee it's off to the races with 400+ whp. But that's not a journey, it's just throwing money at the problem of wanting to go fast. There's no wrench time involved in that, whereas with the TL you have to replace a lot of parts to go faster and it is more of a journey. I like the journey of modding the TL by actually getting my hands dirty by adding new parts, which is why I do it.
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Thats not true. Yes alone the CAI is a noise maker like most memebers refer it. However, with supporting mods it will gain power. Excelerate posted awhile back a 3G TL with just its exhaust and a CAI (no other mod to my knowledge) and iirc it was about 20hp gain.
Not here to argue I'm just going off what the OP said "i am going to delete 3rd cat, put a jpipe and cai." He will see minimal gains from the CAI with just a jpipe installed.
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^ Yeah that is why I said it is still an ambigous topic when it comes to intakes. Honestly, I am not 100% on it either, but it does help the engine breathe better since our stock intakes have more air restrictions.
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With an auto trans, unless you strip the car down for weight reduction, you're not going to shave that 0-60 time without at least $5k in mods, lol.

and on that note, the car will never be "fast". Even those of us who are going for all-motor builds with high compression, cams, etc. are probably never going to see a better 1/4 mile time of like, high 12's. That's a highly respectable time, and it's very very quick, but "fast"? No. Not by a long shot.

You are just gonna have to be comfortable with what the TL is. I could go to my local BMW dealer tomorrow and roll a new 135i off the lot, throw a Cobb tune on it and wheeeeee it's off to the races with 400+ whp. But that's not a journey, it's just throwing money at the problem of wanting to go fast. There's no wrench time involved in that, whereas with the TL you have to replace a lot of parts to go faster and it is more of a journey. I like the journey of modding the TL by actually getting my hands dirty by adding new parts, which is why I do it.
Yep, it's all relative to be honest. I took a new 5.0 for a test drive and it made my car feel like a dog. But if I were to turn around and jump into a Z06 after the Mustang, then the Stang would feel like a slug. That said, I think anyone who can get their TL to trap in the 105-110 mph range or better, is doing pretty well. In my world, that's where a car starts to become "pretty fast", especially for an entry level luxury-grocery getter. I don't care how much power you throw at a FWD though; in the end, it'll never be a seriously good drag car due to the relatively modest torque and inherent limitations of FWD. It'll hold its own on the highway though, as we all know.
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If you do the math it seems most autos suffer about a 5% reduction in torque over their standard counterparts.

As for the pulleys, Ive had no problems other than the Acura mechanics refusing to diagnose my car.
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unfortunately hondata wont work on mine. but will pulley work with AEM engine management?

joneill44
you are talking about all cats? or 3rd only?

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im thinking over ATLP, or making my own custom (if it works ill save some $).

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i prefer to spend 5K on several mods, rather than one turbo.
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anx1300c - "I don't care how much power you throw at a FWD though; in the end, it'll never be a seriously good drag car due to the relatively modest torque and inherent limitations of FWD".

tell that to the 10,11,12 second civics running around miami
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he's not looking for performance mods hes looking for "perdormance" mods lol
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[quote=temo_O;14378846]bouncer07
unfortunately hondata wont work on mine. but will pulley work with AEM engine management? [quote]

When you start thinking about engine management, you got to start thinking about $5,000. Reason is, you will have to tune, retune, and tune as more parts are installed. For a pulley, you don't need a tune, you can read on what it does and what people have experienced on them. Before jumping to this EMC, think about what you want in the long run. People who go this far will go, well.... they are power addictions and just keep wanting more. Remember that you're an automatic, you could go as far as all free flowing mods first.

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[QUOTE=bouncer07;14378992][quote=temo_O;14378846]bouncer07
unfortunately hondata wont work on mine. but will pulley work with AEM engine management?

When you start thinking about engine management, you got to start thinking about $5,000. Reason is, you will have to tune, retune, and tune as more parts are installed. For a pulley, you don't need a tune, you can read on what it does and what people have experienced on them. Before jumping to this EMC, think about what you want in the long run. People who go this far will go, well.... they are power addictions and just keep wanting more. Remember that you're an automatic, you could go as far as all free flowing mods first.
if the pulley will let me tune the emc, then i will install it.
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People who go this far will go, well.... they are power addictions and just keep wanting more
Hey, I'm not an addict (twitch twitch). I am an enthusiast! (twitch twitch)

But you're right. Once you start tweaking the ECU, you get into a whole new ballgame and good tuners aren't cheap.
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anybody who has installed cai, jpipe, test pipe can tell 0-60 time on automatic?
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Originally Posted by type-s'er
anx1300c - "I don't care how much power you throw at a FWD though; in the end, it'll never be a seriously good drag car due to the relatively modest torque and inherent limitations of FWD".

tell that to the 10,11,12 second civics running around miami
I'm pretty sure they already know they'd be running 9, 10, 11 seconds instead of 10,11,12 if they weren't FWD.
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Originally Posted by temo_O
anybody who has installed cai, jpipe, test pipe can tell 0-60 time on automatic?
lol 7 secs.

again, you're getting into the limitations of FWD and the auto tranny.

you should have started out with a better car or at least the 6mt if you're looking for faster 0-60 times....
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Originally Posted by temo_O
anybody who has installed cai, jpipe, test pipe can tell 0-60 time on automatic?
Import Face Off is this Sunday here in Wichita.

I'm going to be running the Test and Tune drag racer with Ky.

I'll update you with an actual time slip.


I'll be running with the RV6 pre cat deletes j-pipe and CAI as well as the lightweight pulleys and some minor weight reduction.
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
Import Face Off is this Sunday here in Wichita.

I'm going to be running the Test and Tune drag racer with Ky.

I'll update you with an actual time slip.


I'll be running with the RV6 pre cat deletes j-pipe and CAI as well as the lightweight pulleys and some minor weight reduction.
I would be pleased to get the time from you.
but you are running type-s right?
what are some minor weight reduction u did?
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Temo_O, do you street race? What made you get this "particular" car?
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Bouncer, are you auto or 6MT?
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^ never bought a car that's automatic yet. Why? Whats's up.

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This thread is rather pointless

OP if you so concern about your 0-60 then do what Inaccurate did and gut it out. He is one of the fastest auto base TL I know.
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If you want to go fast for cheap, this car ain't for you....... Or you could go with nos.....


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