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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Need Advice...brakes or j-pipe?

Hey azine, I've come to a crossroad. I recently have been able to afford either the RV6 V3 j-pipe, and also the slotted rotors package from excelerate performance. Now which should I get? The j-pipe comes to $470, and the brakes come to $512 (both include shipping). Also, my brake pads need to be changed, as their life is ending, and my rotors are getting really rusty. Which should I do? I will be able to purchase both at one point this year, but the other won't be till November and December. What's the choice?
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
Also, my brake pads need to be changed, as their life is ending, and my rotors are getting really rusty. Which should I do?
Seems like the choice is pretty easy
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Brakes.... I bought the rotora drilled slotted setup. Looks really good and later at one point i had to make a sudden stop and was amazed how much more bite these have over the stock brakes and how quickly i came to a stop So basically it was like ohhhh sh***t and then oh wow
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Ya, brakes make sense, but I guess I could always buy pads, and wait for them to run out again...so far, I'm opting with brakes.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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take care of the safety aspects first.
then performance.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Service is more important than performance. You have to be able to stop.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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You have to be able to stop.
always a solid plan

...i know the jpipe is tempting, about to order mine within the month...but deal with the brakes first, mods later. good luck with it all!
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
Hey azine, I've come to a crossroad. I recently have been able to afford either the RV6 V3 j-pipe, and also the slotted rotors package from excelerate performance. Now which should I get? The j-pipe comes to $470, and the brakes come to $512 (both include shipping). Also, my brake pads need to be changed, as their life is ending, and my rotors are getting really rusty. Which should I do? I will be able to purchase both at one point this year, but the other won't be till November and December. What's the choice?
Go for the brakes.... It looks as though you have some engine performance mods so the brakes seem to be the logical choice
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Sweet...brakes it's.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Don’t get stop tech whatever u do i bought the kit for the front and rear like 450 worth front works great and the rear r in the damn building out back. The rotors for the rear r noisy as hell. The pads sucked to took them off and replace with bendix pads from advanced, just way too much dust
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Don’t get stop tech whatever u do i bought the kit for the front and rear like 450 worth front works great and the rear r in the damn building out back. The rotors for the rear r noisy as hell. The pads sucked to took them off and replace with bendix pads from advanced, just way too much dust. I have the j-pipe also i would go with it the sound is great. And the factory brakes r not slack by any means so go for the pipe
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Don’t get stop tech whatever u do i bought the kit for the front and rear like 450 worth front works great and the rear r in the damn building out back. The rotors for the rear r noisy as hell. The pads sucked to took them off and replace with bendix pads from advanced, just way too much dust
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Damn. Well the rotors are powerslot, but the pads are stoptech. I read reviews, and they said the pads were good. Since they come with the package...I'm gonna use them.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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The pads are damn good but the dust they put out is crazy. I have silver wheels and 1 day of normal driving they we're almost black
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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Hmmm....I really want a pad with little dust. I guess I will wait and see for myself. I will change them to the EBC Red Stuff pads if I'm not happy.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Maybe you've had a bad experience, but Stop Tech brakes are amongst the best. Have a friend running the full kit on his 350Z. Car stops very quickly.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 12:58 AM
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get some brembo cross drilled rotors
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by proimport
get some brembo cross drilled rotors
Don't fit on our cars.

Edit* Take that back. I'm thinking of their BBKs.

Last edited by Rick_TL-S; Jul 25, 2010 at 01:11 AM.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:03 AM
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With slotted rotors you're gonna have brake dust issues to begin with, which is why I would've said Jpipe.

BUT since you're already going brakes (nothing wrong with it), I've heard Hawk makes some pretty good pads that minimize dust.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Hmmm...I think I will be able to deal with dust seeing how I'm always cleaning the car. I will take a chance. One more paycheck comes in and I'm getting those suckers.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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In that case, more power to you. Just don't let that dust sit for too long.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Im getting new rotors and brakes tomorrow :| cause i dont wanna die trying to brake lol
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Of course brakes won't make you stop any quicker over one stop but it's nice to have better brakes for when you're doing a few stops back to back.

Slotted rotors in general won't affect brake dust noticably. My 13" drilled and slotted Rotoras dust about like the factory 5at brakes which is not bad. The pads will determine the dusting.

After upgrading my brakes, the only regret I have is not doing it sooner.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm not going to do drilled and slotted b/c it seems rather useless to me, although it is only 40 bucks more. Would it be a good idea to just get OEM rotors and upgrade to better pads? The deal excelerate has for us seems pretty good, and that's why I'm considering it. I would like slotted myself. So slotted will dust more than OEM? Or is it like IHC said, it is only up to the pad?
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Racing Brake..... do it right the first time......
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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I'm not a fan or racing brake at all. I'll pass on that suggestion.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I stand by what I said, slotted rotors WILL give you more brake dust, but I don't have nearly as much experience as IHC. It is more with the pads than with the rotors. But if you were to have stock pads on slotted rotors and blank rotors, the slotted rotors will have more brake dust.

Moral of the story: Get good pads and you should be fine. Especially if you wash the car often.

That being said, do you really need slotted rotors? Unless you autocross your car, I don't see the benefit over blanks, aside from the cosmetic difference.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
Thanks for the input guys. I'm not going to do drilled and slotted b/c it seems rather useless to me, although it is only 40 bucks more. Would it be a good idea to just get OEM rotors and upgrade to better pads? The deal excelerate has for us seems pretty good, and that's why I'm considering it. I would like slotted myself. So slotted will dust more than OEM? Or is it like IHC said, it is only up to the pad?
I paid the $18 for one of the white papers on drilling and slotted rotors since even the experts contradicted one another. Overall, drilling and slotting will barely impact pad life and dusting. Only under elevated temperatures does it have an impact on pad life and dusting.

It concluded that for daily driving and a normal range of temps there was an insignificant increase in pad wear and dusting. This was a surprise to me actually because it seemed logical the slots and holes would increase pad wear and with increased wear comes increased dust.

Also to my surprise, drilling reduced rotor temps especially from high speed and high airflow conditions and not so much at low speed, low airflow. They also remained much more frictionally consistant from cold to very hot. One thing for sure, if you go drilled, you should remove the dust shields in the front. I've seen a 100 degree reduction in rotor temps and with drilling, they much less affected by moisture.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AMAN1
That being said, do you really need slotted rotors? Unless you autocross your car, I don't see the benefit over blanks, aside from the cosmetic difference.
To answer this... I don't need them. But I wouldn't really say they aren't useful for street use and only saw they are required for autocross. To me, that is what drilled and slotted is for. I am taking advantage of a package going on...I need new pads, I need new rotors...why not get nice ones. Besides, I'm not paying much more, seeing how if I stick with stock rotors, I will still get really nice pads. If there wasn't a package going on...I would of just got blank rotors.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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awhh man sorry dont like to be mean but... this is freaking epic!! LOL!
Hai guyzz, my brakes are bout to go out... should I get a jpipe and make my car faster instead of buying new brakes???? Lolzzz sorry man but that is funny
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Walshstl
awhh man sorry dont like to be mean but... this is freaking epic!! LOL!
Hai guyzz, my brakes are bout to go out... should I get a jpipe and make my car faster instead of buying new brakes???? Lolzzz sorry man but that is funny
I suppose I might of stated the question incorrectly, but I wasn't going to ignore my brake problem. The question is...should I get a j-pipe and stick with rusty, oem rotors and new pads, or get slotted rotors and better pads and put off the j-pipe.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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The pads are damn good but the dust they put out is crazy. I have silver wheels and 1 day of normal driving they we're almost black
There are a number of different STOPTECH pads. The STOPTECH Performance pad is the best bet for most people on this forum. It is a paraaramid compound: low dust, low noise, great initial bite and even long-term performance. Great street pad and also works well for light track.



StopTech Street Performance brake Pads are engineered to meet the demands of high performance driving while maintaining the refinement and comfort expected in everyday driving conditions. StopTech brake pads combine the benefits of premium street brake pads with aggressive friction formulas suitable for light track day and autocross use.

Para-aramid composites are specially formulated to provide linear response at both cold and hot temperatures, delivering optimum stopping performance over a wide range of driving conditions.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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XLR8 Stop tech pads and slotted rotors, just came in last week.

Originally Posted by d-townhakuzo
Damn. Well the rotors are powerslot, but the pads are stoptech. I read reviews, and they said the pads were good. Since they come with the package...I'm gonna use them.

I bought the same package you are about to buy from XLR8. The rotora rotors LOOK awesome the Pads are in most cases Very good or one of the top pads to buy.(stop tech)

GET this setup You will be happy.


Installed it sunday 2 days ago..and I am very happy. Thank you for your help and reference XLR8. You were very helpful and the shipment arrived quickly.

I was reading soo many reviews from other Acurazine members.....just make sure you Bed in your pads and you will not have no problems....
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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Noob question, but how do you bed in the pads?
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Each manufacture has their own recommended bedding process. If i remember correctly when bedding Hawk pads on my old Mazda it included making several hard stops from 40 mph and several less hard stops from 30-20mph. Take a look at the manufacture's site. I'm sure there is some info.
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