raf1919

what is a good list of things to. Funds are low so i will do few things a time.

1jpipe
2mid muffler delete
3 CAI

would that be a good way to start?

AMUA6

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Tint for sure!

But if you're going for performance the j-pipe is the best bang for the back, adds ~ 15WHP.

There are countless threads about this. The search button is your best friend
Welcome to AZ!

JMooSeR

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Looks good for now! I can assure you your list will only become longer... and longer!

Mid muffler delete increases exhaust volume a little, if you like the sound, and perhaps want it a little louder, I'd recommend what we call, Stage 2 or Stage 3 exhaust modifications!

Hopefully getting my own j pipe in the next few months!

MrHeeltoe

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For performance I would go two different ways:

Max gains:
1. J-pipe
2. INJEN CAI
3. UR Pulley

Good gains with minimal sound change (not make car annoying sounding):
1. UR Pulley
2. K&N Drop In or AEM V2 CAI + Thermoblock Spacers
3. J-pipe

raf1919

i just got rid of my wrx so i dont want to get all crazy with this car. i really enjoy the quiet sound so rally want to keep that. would the j pip and mid muffler delete make it louder?

i might pass on the CAI i just dont really think they work so that is last on my list.

Tints were going to be my first mod but after finding out the hassle of having to put the mole skin might pass on those too.

Timb227

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J-Pipe first

raf1919

will the j pipe have any affect on my factory warranty? i have bumper/bumper 100k dont want to mess that up.

raf1919

more specifically i was looking are rv6 v3 which i guess deletes the cat. sounds like emission wise i'll be ok but worried about the car warranty.

odehboy

cat deletes are most definetly going to void your warranty.

raf1919

damn.. there go my modding dreams

funny thing is that after i sold my wrx and got the TLS i said i had no interest in modding anymore just wanted a reg car. damn this forum.

bigg_86

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you dont think the CAI really work? LOL, a good cai will def make a big difference in your TL, i have a 6MT with a cai with a K&N FILTER n the difference it made was amazin... i also deleted my mid muffler n the resonator n it sounds amazing.... now im thinking about running 2.5in pipings out of each bank all the way to the back... no j pipe, no cat.

raf1919

when it comes to CAI to each his own. I dont hate them i just put low on priority list.

anyone know if i put Jpipe on and if i have car issue i just put stock back on would dealer know?

i paid extra for the warranty so would hate to void it.

justnspace

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^honestly I dont think they would notice..
the only mod i have is the RV6 V3 J-pipe.
it sounds and looks stock.

For reference, Richies J-pipe cost 470 and gained 15hp.
a CAI cost around 200-300 and only gains 1-2 hp.

Also, in my own personal opinion the stock cold air intake is better than the aftermarkets.

raf1919

how much louder did you find the jpipe? any fumes?

raf1919

also how does the new v3 compare with exlr8 and atlp?

DeathMetal

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Check out bzyrice's thread in the PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY, he has some prety detailed info on it.

I really, really want that one myself!!!

justnspace

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it sounds deeper. but not louder. only at WOT do I notice it.
At idle, and easy driving, I don't notice the sound.
no fumes, no smell.
acceleration feels better through 1st and 2nd gear.

I chose the v3 because it was new. designed better. Richie said he took a couple months for R&D. This new j-pipe has longer primaries that gets rid of the 3rd cat. that equals to more low end power.
he has a dyno chart that shows a gain of 15whp and i think 12wtq

I installed myself, on jack stands. not hard to do, but the stock j-pipe was pretty rusted on and stuck. took me a couple of hours.

raf1919

for some reason i dont have user rights to view the gallery.

what does it say.

my biggest concern would be ruining the luxury aspect of the car by making it louder and smelly.

justnspace

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no one notices it.
it doesnt smell nor does it irritate the ears. it only compliments the stock sound.
Have the radio at 15 and you cant notice.

raf1919

cool. i think i'm sold!! it sounds like a great upg.

Gen8888

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MrHeeltoe

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Suit yourself. They do work...but not all parts work the same on all cars. For example, don't expect a grounding kit to make a difference on this car. The Subraus benefit greatly from grounding kits, but Acura/Honda do not.

Mole skin?

MrHeeltoe

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Wrong. Don't spread lies.

Any part you change will limit or void the warranty on the original part or parts directly related to it. Changing a cat out for a test pipe will not void the warranty on the car.

MrHeeltoe

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A J-Pipe is a great mod. I as I mentioned would suggest coupling it with a crank pulley and drop-in filter. I can tell you these together would make a really good improvement for you without making the car louder in a way you won't like.

raf1919

are there any good filters beside the oil ones that you can recommend? it seems like only options are stock or KN oiled one.

Gen8888

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Moleskin is an addon felt type material used on the weather stripping of the window to prevent scratching the tint. This is something I was hesitant on and did not use but should have as I have a few small scratch lines.

MrHeeltoe

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Well, I don't think so...but the K&N is never a bad choice

joseph.bruegge

what is the j-pipe? im a little confused, sorry guys

MrHeeltoe

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Check this super-informative Pit-board posting:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/pitboard/?p=149

Marcus

joseph.bruegge

thanks for the help MrHeeltoe

Rick_TL-S

Any solid info that the INJEN works any better or is this just assumption?

Because as far as I've seen, the CAI's all make about the same horsepower; 5-7 give or take.

It will remove any warranty on the J-Pipe & considering how much a dick your dealer is, probably anything on the exhaust (if they can prove the J-Pipe caused the issue).

But, the great thing is this. It's very hard for something to go wrong with an aftermarket J-Pipe seeing as it's a very simple piece of piping that just allows for more air flow & power to the exhaust. The worst thing it could do is piss off the environmentalists.

MrHeeltoe

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Assumption. Historically speaking, Injens have made more power but lack refinement in sound. This is just from MY experience. Many others might disagree.


+1

There aren't many if any problem-causing parts available for these cars. That is the real concern, not the warranty.

turbocivic94

I had my TLS for 2 weeks and I installed a V3 J Pipe. I put a CAI on and did not like the sound. Put back the stock air box with resonator removed. CAI's dont do a damn thing, just sound louder when accelerating. I dont know how UR Pulley work on this car but did not have good experience with other Honda engines.