Ok . I am sick of waiting, and driving around with an un-modded ECU.

I do have the intentions of possibly supercharging my car, with or without the help of CT-Engineering (comptech)

But even if i dont go that route, i still would like to tune the car a little more to maximize my gains. i would like to see about 300 or more whp N/A... im sure its possible, especially considering i've already bolted the hell outta my J35A8

So, i've got a few questions. Some were answerable by search, but i would find different answers, or inconclusive feedback

1) Boomslang Harness. I see 07 Acura TL, not type S... then they ask what kinda of harness, eManage or eManage Ultimate... for the Ultimate, you can choose water & air, or water & knock, or dual knocks... so, what Harness should i get?

any difference between 07 and 08 wiring layout? i know 04-05 were different from 06, which is different from 07+... do we think the type-s 07/08 are the same?

2) what unit do i get? i read something about having to use two units? blue + ultimate together? or just plain emanage?

3) what size are stock injectors? are we already close to "maxxing" them out? if i drop in larger ones (probably rsx 440) will i still need to modify my FPR or fuel system in order to get more fuel into the engine? (along with a tune)
will rsx injectors drop right in?


and last but not least, so far, i only know about Al (stillhere) getting a boomslang harness. they are offering them for sale, so some people must have purchased them, and/or used them in a tune. where are these people? can they voice their opinions and feedback?

i appreciate anybody jumping in and giving me some direction. preferably from the s/c gurus or people who know this shit pretty well.. because im getting dead serious about tuning my car a little better and/or going F/I (preferably s/c , turbo would run too much in custom fabbing)

im gonna go to two reputable shops in the greater NYC area over the next 2 weeks to get some feedback from these guys.... once i get my wheels sold, ill start buying the equipment and going into dark waters, where nobodys been before

thanks az

 

I'd love to see you try a rear mounted turbo setup. That would be the hotness.

 

I e-mailed boomslang when i was looking to order the harness.... soooo... If I can remember they confirmed that the harness for 07-08 base and type s are the same... just e-mail them before you order.... they listed the 07 on their website because of my emails heheheh

 

04accordcpe has been down this route and has some maps as well. talk to him.

 

To the OP, i am in the same boat as you, i posted about a forged motor for a SC and then the stop in the build was the tune...
I wanted to build a full SC motor (9.5:1CR, forged, ect.) but there is basically nothing out there for tuning so i said whats the use, because i could build that engine with a supercharger (maybe even a custom Porcharger) and not even do it safely because the timing, AFR, ect would be off badly! Hell i could make 330whp safely, but thats not much hp IMO.

Just give it time, someone will see the market in the tune.

 

Not to whore it out but

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183199

We start talking about the tune near the middle.

 

i would think there would be more people interested in getting a solution... especially the s/c folks

maybe we can look into a group buy for boomslang harness... people like 04accordcpe can contribute some maps, or if myself or anybody else gets succesful tuning done, we can share the maps for others...

 

i looked at the STS turbo.. and my would be to stay away from it, at least for us daily drivers, or people who face different temps...

i wouldnt want salt, sand and road grime all over my turbo.... plus im lowered, so i am putting a $2k+ setup at risk when i drive over f*ed up roads

 

Its worth a try, and it might pay off!

 

STS turbo isn't really meant for a small motor like ours anyway, it would have hella' lag.

 

yeah i was talking to a buddy of mine down here and he does alot of custom turbo work, like fabrication and all that, and he wanted me to think about a rear mount set up.
and he was asking me about tuning, and i really wasnt too sure if there was a good tune for our cars yet. but i would love to see some FI from the rear one day. so hopefully a tune can be in the near future

 

I am s/c without any ecu tuning and the car fucking fly's. If there was only a way to get the ua6 blower on you s type guys, it would be great. The ecu from the tlp wouldnt work with the s type and blower???

 

nope, but you TL-P guys with the S/C don't have proper tuning either. You run to rich and also have those power surges.

 

Are you running the computer box the blower came with?

 

Hey allon... Want to get down with the project for real... Using emanage blue?

We will both have all the very same mods sooo all we have to do is transfer the tune to a second unit.....

I know a shop that gets real nice with it

But the hourly dyno rates are like $80-$100 per hour... The guy does good work....

Prob get a few ponies from running slightly richer (as I had discussed on a previous thread)

Then after we do this we could share it for a small fee...?

 

How about you people quit hijacking threads with all this supercharger/ turbo bull and let the man who posted the thread get the info he needs?
And if you want a rear mounted turbo so badly why dont you figure out how your gonna tune it?

 

NO need to over-react to the semi-thread jack. Just a warning to members posting in this thread, stay on topic to tuning for the S/C as posted by the OP.

 

^^ or even N/A tuning,

 

Have you driven a SC TL? The stock TL runs rich, and the "power surge" is nothing to worry.

my sentiment exactly...
Comptech ACM is "tuned" if you will for the 3.2L engine. It would likely "work" on the 3.5, but highly unlikely that it would wrok optimally.

 

If you've been paying attention lately in this section, you would see the multiple threads in which we talked about supercharger / turbocharger tuning and my recommendations as such. I was just reiterating what was said on some of the other threads.

So I can go back on-topic for the on-topic Nazi, I've said it before and I'll say it again.... if you're willing to do some more research and find a tuner who's willing to do it, I still think a standalone EMS is your best bet. Piggybacks just do not give you the control necessary to pull the most power with the best driveability out of an exotic setup. I'm speaking from experience because I've built (aka funded) several high horsepower cars and have run the gambit from reflashes to piggybacks to reflash/piggyback combos to full standalones.

The only problem, again, with the standalone is that you're no longer a street legal car (you won't pass emissions). This may or may not matter to you, I always just had my cars registered at the college I was going to at the time because that county didn't require emissions inspections. Standalone is the shit(TM) for for so many other reasons, including realtime knock protection while tuning via electronic adaptation, some are set up for meth / WI input, etc.

When you talk to the NY tuners, ask them about their experience with that kind of engine management and see what they say. Frankensteining some piggybacks together may work, but again having done several builds the one thing that I did the most research on, spent the most money on, and felt was the most important to get right was the tuning.

 

I would love to see an N/A custom tuned car. Does anyone know if that has been done yet? For $500-$600 that would be a nice mod indeed- high $/hp ratio.

(N/A car) - As for injectors. If you are running just intake/exhaust plus some pulleys you probably won't need to go to bigger injectors. Most cars run rich out of the factory so adding larger injectors would be nearly useless if you are still running within the capacity of the stockers. The best part about a custom tune would be leaning out the A/F ratio and increasing smoothness and throttle response. Canned tunes are ok, but a custom tune is the way to go. period.

 

X 2 ..... I have never been a fan of any type of piggy back tuning.

1. I don't care for hacking up the stock wiring
2. It doesnt always give you "EXACT" control over the tuning parameters. Like in the case of a SAFC II type tuner. What always botherd me was that you can change the parameters in percentage increments..... not the actual tuning values. Things may have changed recently... but when I was first introduced to them 7 years ago I had my doubts.

However in the case of a stand alone and the OP.... i believe this may be "too much" for what he had in mind.... and like you said, it gets rid of the Emissions Controls and violates a couple of laws if you want to use it on the street.

Reflash has to be the way to go. Tune with the laptop and reflash!

 

Reflash seems the most practical. The ECU is not an easy thing to mess with in these cars. I just wish there were a KPRO ECU reflash for the TL!