speedytypes

Well before installing my Jpipe I was pretty hesitant and worried that it wouldnt make much of a difference. But after a day of driving normally to work and back I punched it at my clutch let go in 4th gear. Which unfortunately means I'm due for a new clutch, but on a positive note my car was pulling really hard. BTW my car is a 2007 TLS with a 6 speed obviously....

Bruce Banner

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Time to look for a light weight fly

anx1300c

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Lol, 10 extra whp took out your clutch the first time you got on it?


Not sure if serious.

AbyssPearlTL

Likewise. How many miles? How much do you usually "get on it"? When the clutch let go in 4th, what RPM were you at?

Sonnick

^ This. If your clutch really is slipping, I promise it's not due to the Jpipe. It would just be a really big coincidence.

SharksBreath

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i've heard of this happening with other members, said nobody ever.

thisaznboi88

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Vtec Kicked in Yo and destroyed your clutch . On a side note check out XLR8 clutch kit. Might be worth getting

justnspace

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your clutch was already going.
perhaps, a drivers course on how to treat the clutch.

brianch

You are low on VTEC oil.

Top it up. Problem solved.

speedytypes

Well the car has 88miles on it, I've had it since it had 19. This is the only clutch that has failed on me, and believe me I'm much more mature of a driver now then I was when I was 17. I don't beat on my car on a regular basis, there is the odd street race here and again but nothing compared to what I put my VW's through. Well basically what happened is when I applied full throttle in 3rd at first I noticed the rpm were kinda hovering in the 4k range and when I reduced they fell off to about 3250. Then I tried 4th and the rpm just jumped up. I didn't sit there cooking the clutch because I need it to last for a little while longer. Though I don't attribute the early clutch failure to the pipe alone, I do think the extra torque helped push it over the edge. What actually caused it is me not having removed that stupid clutch delay valve early enough. That thing not only ruined my clutch but it also cost me a race or two.

UA6

NvrDwn

You have a strong flame suit. Well done.

AnthraciteAspec

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Guys his car only has 88 miles on it. Clearly this was the fault of the j-pipe as his clutch is practically brand new.

Sonnick

^ Was that supposed to be red text?

AnthraciteAspec

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yes, I fail

Steven Bell

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Brian.....well done!

justnspace

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Truth of the matter is; the jpipe and the "extra torque" () did not cause your clutch to go.

the check valve also did not cause your clutch to go.

your driving behavior caused it.
How do I know this?
because you said you've had the vehicle since 19 and now its at 88.
I'm assuming you meant mileage and forgot to tack on the three zeros after the digits.
thats a lot of driving.

komet

Interestingly there were a small group of members who noticed their clutches were slipping after installing ported and polished intake manifold and runners. Obviously the J-Pipe and PnP intake parts are irrelevant because these members pushed their cars hard (like the OP) in order to feel the gains from their new mods and only at that period in time noticed the severe clutch slippage.

In daily driving I doubt you would notice clutch slippage as much as you would when you are focused completely on driving / controlling the car in a way that would allow you to experience the gains from your new mods.

That said, I think some of you guys are being a little too rough on the OP. Not everyone is mechanically inclined and even then the OP has a good idea of what he's talking about. His theory about a failing clutch being pushed over the edge by the addition of the J-Pipe is not that far fetched. It also seems counterproductive to outright dismiss people without explanation if their opinions don't align with yours. I'm not saying we have to write a collaborative novel about clutch failure, but I think it's in everyone's best interest (especially this forum's) if criticism is delivered in a civil way - i.e accompanied with some level of technical explanation or education ... I guess I'm just rambling at this point, but that's just my opinion

SharksBreath

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yes, yes it is far fetched. him installing an aftermarket jpipe has nothing to do with his clutch failing.

these aftermarket jpipes don't do much for us anyway, they're just a "performance part" that free up a little power VS a stock pipe. would have zero effect on his clutch. purely coincidental. now, if he went all paul walker on his TL after the install, that's a different story. either way, driving it hard and then noticing the issue he's speaking about sounds like bad timing.

that's like saying i installed an LED map light and my tire blew out.

speedytypes

Now I remember why I stopped participating in this forum for so long. There is too many dude buds who think they know everything about anything. The point of the matter is pre jpipe I had 0 slippage. Post jpipe it slips in the higher gears. Next fact is that I don't abuse my car and or the clutch, I'm 27 and It would have been impossible to own the car at the age stated above. . Next point is how could you not find it comprehend able that extra torque would cause a part that is directly subjected to that extra torque to cause it to slip? Do I think it's a coincidence? Not entirely. And yes the clutch delay valve would cause premature way. It promotes slip, which in turn causes wear.

justnspace

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^you dont know that.

our clutches have a hydraulic self adjusting pressure plate.
you will never know that its slipping until it just goes.

justnspace

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Plus, member "Hi Speed" ran his factory clutch with a super charger.
he reached power levels of 350whp before he upgraded to a stronger clutch for his turbo set up.
he's pushing well over 400 now


at a jpipe producing so much torque that it makes a clutch slip

justnspace

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I only have a base six speed, but my mods include: PCD's, jpipe, ported and polished intake manifold and its runners, and a bored throttle body.

granted, I'm just at where your power levels are.
but I have no slippage whats so ever due to my mods.

speedytypes

Regardless, I'm happy with my new mod, I'm going to replace my new clutch next week, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it more after that. Thanks for everyone's input. Have a great weekend.

losiglow

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Are you going to use a lightweight fly or do any of the work yourself? When I replace mine I'm looking into it. Weight loss yo

Sonnick

Swap the stock Jpipe back and see if the problem still exists. Just saw you are replacing your clutch. Better idea.

Off topic, but this morning driving to work, I reached over to change radio stations and not only did my tire go flat, but my wheel fell off. Had I not changed stations, would this have happened?

Sorry OP

speedytypes

It may have not happened. When you reached over to change your radio station you inadvertanly changed course by a few degrees and cause you to run over something that punctured your tire and this cause your wheel to fall of. Although I do think there was an underlying problem which caused your wheel to come off. Possibly a ball joint