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Old 04-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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man I wish I lived in VA. Maybe I could just ship my car there and back.
That's been done....
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Originally Posted by gerzand
OH SHIT!! They make an 09 Tl-S!!?? hehe




or did u mean sh-awd?
Actually they do in the parts catalog anyway.....

But alais, they will not fit, damn VCM......
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hey paul you want to come pick up my 2nd gen TL-S?
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
hey paul you want to come pick up my 2nd gen TL-S?
Huh
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:43 PM
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I see I got some competition at Skyline this year...

Everything looks awesome Billy. The car definately is my overall favorite of the site now.
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Well, let me put it this way, LOL, I had a J35 in my AT AV6, 2nd/3rd gen TLs and 2nd gen CLs and 7th gen AV6 all use the same 5AT, within 4 months I blew my perfectly good running tranny, after tearing it down to see exactly what failed I noticed EVERY friction plate in first gear was cracked into multiple pieces, I guess doing 1st thru 2nd gear burnouts with 235 width Yokos was not a good idea, LOL, so yeah they can be put in AT cars, but I won't warrenty the life of the tranny.....
lol damn huh X_x... so no burnouts and i'm good right? lol
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:57 PM
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That's been done....
hmmmm... Once I see the blower results and vids

Could you also do an intercooler setup? I know there is no benefit but want a different look.
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:29 PM
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hmmmm... Once I see the blower results and vids

Could you also do an intercooler setup? I know there is no benefit but want a different look.
No benefit, huh?
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bent09
hmmmm... Once I see the blower results and vids

Could you also do an intercooler setup? I know there is no benefit but want a different look.
If that is what you really want, yes, but IMO having a non-functional IC is ricey.....
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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hey paul. glad i started the thread seems like alot of people r intrested . guess i need to break this thing in a little quicker so we can get results. plain on n/a dyno,supercharged dyno w and wo hbp.graphs and definite videos...
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Huh

:yup: im in miami.
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Originally Posted by Silva-type-s
:yup: im in miami.
Ok, well I have had cars shipped from as far as AZ and have people drive up on a regular basis.
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This thread is interesting... much more interesting than a TL-S with a bolt on blower...
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How much is .4mm when it comes to comparing the 07 TL-s to 09 TL-s cams?
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:43 AM
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They're have been countless ones
Need more then!
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:31 AM
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No benefit, huh?
I guess I just concluded so after the long intercooler thread and the dyno was inconclusive.
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Ok, well I have had cars shipped from as far as AZ and have people drive up on a regular basis.
Not to mention you get his wife's cooking, that would be me, as well!!
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^roadtrip!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why no vids? Did you pick up the wideband yet?
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^roadtrip!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-07-2009, 06:30 PM
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yea paul hooked me up w the wideband. no i said i was gonna put up sum videos of the dyno sessions
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:52 PM
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jake what da is the skyline meet. im wondering if the car will be at full potential by then or not meaning w the blower on it. im at 250 miles right now.been drivin the car about 60 a day back and fourth to workon the weekdays.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:27 AM
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The meet is on the 31st of May. I have the link on my sig.

I'd hope your car should be ready for it without the blower. I drive 60 miles back and forth a day as well.

I'm at 360 Miles right now until I could get her back in running form when the harness comes.
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Originally Posted by linky33
We should have a meet at your garage
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I second that
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Let me get the boos involved, she normally cooks a lil somethin and orginizes this stuff,we are about due for another get together here....
Ok been working on trying to figure out when to have one this month. I am very busy with training for my Doctorate degree, teaching, taking care of the kids and helping paul with his things. I've been thinking April 19th or 26th, they are both sunday's. Any input from you guys on what would be better for you all will help me out.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:17 PM
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PigPig000 will probably still be here the 19th......
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:42 PM
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this thread is interesting... Much more interesting than a tl-s with a bolt on blower...
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:18 PM
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Actually I ran a G motor (F22 bottom H23 head) for a good 3 years at 11:1 with 10-12PSI tuned with Hondata of course and added a knock sensor. And would routinly do highway runs to 150MPH, the motor did not break, I sold it with compression still spot on, so it is possible, but requires work to make it reliable.
You may get away with it for a while. Especially if you have a way to monitor knock full time and you can tune. I don't doubt that since you know what you're doing.

Unfortunately there's no safety cushion there. Look at the average person on this site, they don't have even the basics of tuning down, they just blow engines up left and right and then repeat the process. You need a margin of safety so the average joe can drive it with the pedal to the floor whether it's 20 degrees outside or 110 degrees.

Let's face it, no one here is going to monitor knock, fuel pressure, AF ratio, etc. I don't know why but that's the way it is. That's why it needs a mild tune or lower compression.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:23 PM
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AFR and Boost gauges are requirements of mine for boosted vehicles....
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^ yes, definitely.. knock sensor/light as well is a good idea
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this is probably one mod im not doing

i cant afford a blown motor/tranny
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:28 PM
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You may get away with it for a while. Especially if you have a way to monitor knock full time and you can tune. I don't doubt that since you know what you're doing.

Unfortunately there's no safety cushion there. Look at the average person on this site, they don't have even the basics of tuning down, they just blow engines up left and right and then repeat the process. You need a margin of safety so the average joe can drive it with the pedal to the floor whether it's 20 degrees outside or 110 degrees.

Let's face it, no one here is going to monitor knock, fuel pressure, AF ratio, etc. I don't know why but that's the way it is. That's why it needs a mild tune or lower compression.

True. but werent we all at that stage at one point in life? i know i was. you learn at you progress. some people just refuse to learn is the point i think you're trying to make. they'd rather just do trial and error 100 times till they get it right rather than the right way the first or second time
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True. but werent we all at that stage at one point in life? i know i was. you learn at you progress. some people just refuse to learn is the point i think you're trying to make. they'd rather just do trial and error 100 times till they get it right rather than the right way the first or second time
You're right but some people refuse to do the necessary research beforehand. This board is the worst I've ever been on in that regard.

An AF guage, fuel pressure and knock monitoring are not optional, they are mandatory to run a blower. No one ever listens. I predicted the blown engines a year ago, no one listened.

All information is out there, people refuse to learn. It doesn't help that they're running boost on top of a high compression engine. The margin for error is smaller. In my turbo car I won't run it hard at the full 29 psi unless the laptop is hooked up even if someone is harassing me. It's just not worth a blown engine.

The sad thing is, with the way the TL's heads and intake flow, with a built bottom end the potential is there for 600hp with a turbo and high boost with mostly stock everything else but no one takes the time to do it right.
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An AF guage, fuel pressure and knock monitoring are not optional, they are mandatory to run a blower. No one ever listens. I predicted the blown engines a year ago, no one listened.
maybe even a meth kit? =\
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Built bottom end, like this one i am in the process of doing, just waiting on CP and Paulter....

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You're right but some people refuse to do the necessary research beforehand. This board is the worst I've ever been on in that regard.

An AF guage, fuel pressure and knock monitoring are not optional, they are mandatory to run a blower. No one ever listens. I predicted the blown engines a year ago, no one listened.

All information is out there, people refuse to learn. It doesn't help that they're running boost on top of a high compression engine. The margin for error is smaller. In my turbo car I won't run it hard at the full 29 psi unless the laptop is hooked up even if someone is harassing me. It's just not worth a blown engine.

The sad thing is, with the way the TL's heads and intake flow, with a built bottom end the potential is there for 600hp with a turbo and high boost with mostly stock everything else but no one takes the time to do it right.
is there an ECU for the TL's that can handle high boost and 600+ hp with low compression pistons and fully built? or does it have to be reflashed?
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:42 AM
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Ok been working on trying to figure out when to have one this month. I am very busy with training for my Doctorate degree, teaching, taking care of the kids and helping paul with his things. I've been thinking April 19th or 26th, they are both sunday's. Any input from you guys on what would be better for you all will help me out.
Either of these weekends are fine with me - Just really depends on the time. gracias chica
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I hate cars, you can make an engine do all kinds of crazy things, but I think we both know a 600hp tl would be undriveable. That amount of power to a FWD car would get you a lot of smoke, a lot of noise, and not a lot of speed. If you want something that fast, get a turbo e46, not a TL. It'll cost less, handle better, and most importantly, handle the extra power better.

I do agree though that if you're going to boost your car, you need to monitor at bare minimum boost and AF. Then again you could go all out and make this your interior...



Also note the vertical doors!
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Either of these weekends are fine with me - Just really depends on the time. gracias chica
We always do a Sunday and at around 2:00 in the afternoon every time.
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I am trying to gauge interest in having a meet at my place on April 19 @ 2:00 pm. This is also the same weekend that PigPig will be here. This is also a working weekend for Paul since he will be working on his car. We can not bother him to much or get in Paul's way.

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Posted up some info in the clubs and meets section. Billy, any updates?
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