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Old 02-09-2008, 04:01 PM
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I got re-dynoed

So, I decided to get re-dynoed since I changed out the intake from the comptech one to a homemade CAI and also the Crank pulley.

I did these runs WITHOUT methanol because i have a leak on one of the hoses, I ordered a new hose so that should take care of it.

My previous dyno was back in 2006 with:

CT S/C
CT intake
CT exhaust
Eshift Pro-Cats

and I got 289.3 whp and 237.1 wtrq


This time I had:

CT S/C
Custom intake
CT exhaust
Hyper Voltage and ground
Eshift Pro-Cats
UR Crank Pulley

and I got 300.2 whp and 237.1 wtrq on a 2005 5AT TL




This SAE corrected and on a DynoJet...funny how I got the same amount of trq
Old 02-09-2008, 04:39 PM
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Damn, that's sick; 300 whp in a TL. I can only imagine that set up on a 6mt car. Have you tried running the quarter with some drag radials?
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Wow, imagine what a proper TUNE would do????
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Damn, that's sick; 300 whp in a TL. I can only imagine that set up on a 6mt car. Have you tried running the quarter with some drag radials?
No 1/4 mile times yet, maybe I'll do one this summer. I'm having a problem launching and traction though. i spin the wheels constantly in 1st. maybe drag radials will fix that?


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Wow, imagine what a proper TUNE would do????
I know! Hondata, I REALLY need your reflash! if not soon, then I may have to look at other alternatives like Greddy Emanage, but no one is willing or recommending it around me. If I were to go Greddy Emanage, I'd probably consider driving it down to Cali to have it tuned by Church Auto.
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I would be very interested to see a run on methanol. Should make a huge difference.
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^^

Yea, I was hoping too, but when I got to the dyno place, I noticed my methanol tank was almost low and I had filled it up right before I left. then we got it on the dyno and we noticed Methanol everywhere... damn leak

Oh well, I ordered new hoses and connectors. Snow performance said they recommends replacing those once every year or year and a half.
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nice! 300whp on a 5AT !!

You should look into a J-Pipe replacement (ATLP ftw)

the 237tq kind of suprised me... my 08 TL-S 5AT put down 238tq, but only 261whp
Old 02-09-2008, 06:18 PM
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Look how much power I lost in the low end (top end was the same) on back to back run from heat soak.

The red line is the same red line that is show up top. The blue line this time was my first pull today. The blue line on the first pic was from 2006.

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so you got a 10 whp gain from the UR Crank Pulley? btw, what is hyper voltage and ground?
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
so you got a 10 whp gain from the UR Crank Pulley? btw, what is hyper voltage and ground?

The Sun Hyper Voltage System is this... mines black though


"The H.V.S. is designed to stabilize voltage in your vehicle for maximum battery efficiency, allowing its full potential to be released."

When I installed it i felt better throttle response, car started faster, and a little more oomph on the butt dyno.
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MugenR, where did you install the methanol nozzle?

Also, did you install the HVS kit before or after you put on your supercharger?
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Originally Posted by ussi
MugenR, where did you install the methanol nozzle?

Also, did you install the HVS kit before or after you put on your supercharger?

the Methanol nozzle was installed after the blower on the supercharger elbow that connects to the intake manifold.

It's been awhile, but according to my Modification Log sheet I keep, yes... I'm a dork. the HVS kit was installed after the supercharger.
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sooo a Ur crank pully gave you how much ?
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UR crank pulley is one of the best mod's for the money...
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Damn those torque numbers, they aint lying when they said honda's are plagued by lack there of

But 300whp on an auto must be fun to drive
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id love to drive a supercharged TL just once, to see the crazy amounts of torque steer... from my 227whp TL, to my 261whp TL-S, the difference in torque steer is EXTREMELY noticeable
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Hah, dude I drove actros wdp insanity, when he said I could drive I was jaw dropped, and in all actuality it pulled hard forward not that much side to side torque steer (I guess its cuz there wasn't much torque added as opposed to the type s), but it sure is fun going 40 to 60 in half a second, not to mention how addictive the whine is
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supercharge FTW
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nice #'s! imagine how your car will feel with a good tune of the a/f
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Originally Posted by kosstick
sooo a Ur crank pully gave you how much ?
Well, It's hard to tell from those numbers because it wasn't a direct before and after with just the UR crank pulley. I'd say from my numbers it's any where from 5-7hp. But man, the revs move so much quicker and the car just performs better. It's probably one of the better mods out there.


Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
id love to drive a supercharged TL just once, to see the crazy amounts of torque steer... from my 227whp TL, to my 261whp TL-S, the difference in torque steer is EXTREMELY noticeable
I don't notice that much torque steer. If I put on wider tires I do notice a little when gunning it after a turn, but not much.


Originally Posted by 04accordcpe
nice #'s! imagine how your car will feel with a good tune of the a/f
Yea. the guys at the dyno were shocked that I was running at 10 A/F.. lol... They were tuning an accord 4cyl with turbo right before my dyno run and it was running pig rich too and it got around 250 whp, but after tuning the A/F, it got up to 300.
That shop doesn't like tuning Greddy Emanage though, They've had problems with it and don't like to hassle with the jumpers.
I'm tempted to drive down to cali this summer for a church tune
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Originally Posted by MugenR
Yea. the guys at the dyno were shocked that I was running at 10 A/F.. lol... They were tuning an accord 4cyl with turbo right before my dyno run and it was running pig rich too and it got around 250 whp, but after tuning the A/F, it got up to 300.
That shop doesn't like tuning Greddy Emanage though, They've had problems with it and don't like to hassle with the jumpers.
I'm tempted to drive down to cali this summer for a church tune
just a tune of the a/f will give you around 10-15whp more for sure.


you will find ALOT of dyno shops wont deal with the emanage. ive had one dyno shop tell me they will do it, only if i bring my own laptop.
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Hah, dude I drove actros wdp insanity, when he said I could drive I was jaw dropped, and in all actuality it pulled hard forward not that much side to side torque steer (I guess its cuz there wasn't much torque added as opposed to the type s), but it sure is fun going 40 to 60 in half a second, not to mention how addictive the whine is
Actually, that car was rated at 320hp/270tq
The magic is in the suspension bro...
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yea ACTROS, i remember you saying you were at 320whp. how the hell did you do it? AND it was a 5AT
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Hbp and custom j(a) pipe helped the engine produce 100hp per liter to the wheels, for the most part! Before the higher boost pulley the car was consistently at about 300 and 250 respectively.

I wish I could post those dyno sheets for comparison but Mike never gave me them, something was wrong with a printer or whatever, oh well.
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thats good info for those who are looking into the ATLP J-Pipe replacement, especially those who are boosted....
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Good numbers Andrew!

..i'm glad to see you back into the mod bug after being dormant for quite some time!
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Originally Posted by ACTROS
Actually, that car was rated at 320hp/270tq
The magic is in the suspension bro...

I bet, the h&r coilovers felt perfect, almost couldn't tell it was even a coilover setup

Really liked how it just pulled forward with such smoothness, guess the chilled evening when I drove it helped

Real curious to see what your next car will be
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guys please answer this......is there going to be a supercharger for the TL-S, i get the feeling that it may not ever exist! I'm hoping that they make one soon! Any thoughts or hear say?
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sounds like a beast!
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So I changed out my crappy build of an intake and changed it out to something MUCH MUCH better. Before in second gear, I'd never be able to read more than 3psi of boost. Now it's reading a constant 3.5psi and spikes up to 4-4.5psi

I also go the methanol fixed. changed out all hoses and plugs.


Here is a pic of my old intake setup, I'll get another picture up on my new intake setup tonight.


That accordion looking tube was creating so much turbulence. I did a quick test with compressed air, sent it through my old intake with the accordion tube and then through my new intake... the old intake you can tell the exiting air not as cold as the new one and also the air is not as strong.
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I would like to see it. So doing a customer intake help as well. Seems pretty easy to make.
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Here is the NEW and improved custom intake for my Supercharger. 04accordcpe's design was my inspiration





And here is the entire engine bay.

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Looks nice. I take it you just cut an aem then bought the hose.

Where did you get the hose?
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reeeee- dyno! lol

i hope your on the ATLP j-pipe buy list. that will definitely get your #'s moving into like 320+
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Originally Posted by bent09
Looks nice. I take it you just cut an aem then bought the hose.

Where did you get the hose?

I got a cheap little 98-02 4cyl accord ebay intake. this intake had all the right bends i needed (I still had to cut it up). and I got the blue silicone hose on ebay as well. search for "3" inch Silicone Hose Coupler 90 Degree Elbow"
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
reeeee- dyno! lol

i hope your on the ATLP j-pipe buy list. that will definitely get your #'s moving into like 320+

Unfortunately I got hit with some unexpected bills this month, so the J-pipe will have to wait till the second batch I hope to god there is a second batch.


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