Any word on the heatshield from Hondata?

 

Is this not pretty much the same thing the Outlaw already has out, or am I missing something here? Seems as though they have just seen all the product Outlaw is selling and decided to get a share of the market? Or is this something totally different and I am missing it....

 

No, it is about the same thing, except it has the Hondata name!! I want the Hondatat!! People know that name.

 

but hondata's are listed at $50...wasn't the outlaws like a $100

 

yep, but I think outlaws included the TB spacer as well. Jason

 

Cool...I was just wondering. I really am not that type of person that gets too caught up in a name brand to impress....I am more interested in functionality! Although everything they have put out to date is good stuff for the other models they work with! Pricing would be an issue too.....better cost maybe? Just tossing it out there for the sake of conversation....nothing more.

 

if im not mistaken hondata's is just one thin heat "gasket" i.e. should work with the super chargers

 

Good point...I was gonna say something about that (the fact they looked thin) but didnt know if it was just camera angle or what! Good point...they would fit S/C cars then!

 

Yup, that will help our heat soak issue with the blower. Outlaw is a little too thick and wont line up. I think hondata heatshield is a replacement of our gasket on the intake manifold.

 

The Hondata gasket I had on my Prelude was thicker then the stock. It is going to be very close to the one from Outlaw. It may be a tad thiner, but still along the same line.

Jason

 

Man...thats a bummer! Its not like Hondata to come out with a "Me too" part? They usually differentiate themselves with some features of some sort....

 

why not use both?

 

Why use both? The return on either product is limited at best.

 

Yes, it lines up. What is up with spreading false information?
-Lee

 

it depends what you're looking to do with your car.

 

Well, not really... but by all means if you think it'll help, buy both.

You would get absolutley so negligiable benefit from both, there no reason to do it.
The radiant heat of the engine warms the plenum up quite a bit, these only keep it from getting HOT form the metal to metal contact of the manifold. The Outlaw sacers seems it would work better based on the sheer thickness, but again remember... It's only good for a few HP at best.

 

what are you talking about? i think it's been determined that you cant use the out law gasket with the super charger ? or am i wrong on that?

 

Yea whats up with that? And I am giving wrong info, I guess you have a supercharger and you are using outlaw spacers. Well first off if you were you would know that comptech has its own spacer for the throttle body. It is part of outlaw engineering. And as far as the intake manifold spacer, you will have to do a little modding to the blower coupler because it will cause the intake manifold to sit up too high. Well I guess I am wrong cause you have outlaw spacers with a supercharger.

 

eh, if i can get 5 whp / 5 tq, i believe it would help in the long run. if your going all out, regardless of what minimal benefits it may have, you will buy it.

 

My bad....I guess I would never even thought of using a part like this on an application it was never designed for. I apologize. Lines up great on my NA.

Seems obvious that they won't fit.
-Lee

 

It's 5HP with the Outlaw spacer... It does increment 5HP for every spacer used. I'm not sure you understand what this thing does.

Here's a thought, why no use 4 or 5 spacers... You should get 20+ HP out of that...

 

im not sure if you're smokin something? who said anything about adding 4-5 spacers.. Clean is well aware of it benefits and it's affect ...5/5 is conservative, as the cooler IATs translate directly to advanced timing...

 

There's a typo in my post above... damn no edit. I was being sarcastic, which is tough to get across when you type like a ham fisted monkey.

I'm not smokin anything either, Clean suggesting using both the Hondata Heatshield AND the Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock spacer at the same time... and by all means if he wants to do that, he cango for it... but no way is using both gonna yeild any additional gains over using one or the other individually.

Your plenum is on top of the engine... you can isolate the direct contact with spacers that don't conduct heat... but the gains realized are minimal because the plenum absorbs radiated heat from the engine too. Adding two spacers will do little to nothing more than one.

 

Please note.....you get 3hp for Conptech stickers, 2 hp for Ray's Engineering stickers, 2 HP for a Yokohama sticker and window tint makes the Cdx(drag coefficient) drop a few points....ie. 2hp.

Since the stickers are additive...that is like 9-11hp. Please note.....sticker visibility should get you a few more ponies.

-Lee

 

I also read if you add a gallon of water in your tank you will gain 25 foot lbs of torque.

 

LOL!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Watch some idiot try it and blow up there engine!

 

Hopefully it will be a guy with a 6sp so I can buy it from him and swap engines.

 

Im really thinking about putting my car back to stock and trading it in for a 06 6sp.

 

Yeah, I may be selling my 6MT cause My brother just got a honda s2000 and i may be taking off his hands cause he does fit real well.( He is 6'5") I dont know if I want to thought yet. im still waiting for Comptech to stop B.S. and send me my charger already. They are really starting to piss me off. I have been waiting for about 6+ weeks already. everytime I call they dont even have an update.
i have never dealt with such poor customer service reguarding the ETA of a shipment. Its taken them 3 weeks and still waiting just to make pulleys for the charger. doesnt sound right to me. im going off on a tangent btu any way, I may be selling if the charger doesnt impress me. I just installed the vortech S/C on the s2000 for my brother and its sick man. That car is pretty quick now!

 

your #'s are already good.. you probably won't see too much of a gain.. at least not a gain worth 4k

 

We'll see. Al I know is that the charger on the s2000 sounds mean! I love that whine! If i gain another 60 whp, Ill be happy. I think thats worth it!

 

Love my S2000. The SC is my next step on that car. Make sure the fittings are all good on the vortech. Friend of mine lost a brass fitting on an oil line and lost all oil pressure(he has aftermarket guages so he got it in time). The vibration from the S/C did it.

And Yes the S/C makes that car quite quick.
-Lee

 

do you even have a TL? im starting to wonder?

 

It does make you wonder!!!????


Also, if I add the gallon of water, does the tank need to be near empty or near full?? I want some extra Power!!! What about some mothballs in the tank as well!! Since its that easy can't I just put 2 gallons in and really get some power!!!

 

BTW Lee, are you in the Tempe are or what?? I lived out there for awhile and miss the hell out of it. Wife has been out there to visit and thinks its to "Hot". But I live in Alabama where the humidity is 90% through the summer!!!! So go figure. My aunt and uncle live out there, one in Tempe and the other in Chandler.

Sorry for the

 

Its really not about the gain. I just miss the shit out of driving a manual.

 

Why should it matter? Yes I have a '04.
-Lee

 

Yep. I am in south Scottsdale(on the edge of Tempe). Love it here!
Stunning women up at Auburn!
-Lee

 

Yep, I my father in-law has alumni season tickets, so I go down for about 3 games a season. Let me tell you, its hard when your wife is right there with you. I hope to make it back out that way for a visit within the next year. Got to get finished up with school 8 more classes to go(wish me luck).

 

my simple argument is that ANY gain in HP/TQ is good in my book. but like i said, AGAIN, it is based upon the type of car you want. i am going for every single pony i can get, so what may be worth $50 to me, may not to someone else.

your argument is that there is NO gain to be had from using both. have you done both to your car? done side by side dynos? how about track times?

i'm only offering up an idea, which may or may not work. but i think it's worth a shot, why not? if i can see a gain of 12hp using both and you may see only 8hp, well. i got a better gain than you, no?

we won't know unless someone tries. heatsoak is a very hard thing to gauge. it's hard to measure because of so many outside variables. the only way to know is to do a side by side test.

ps. your using a stock gasket anyway, why not use an aftermarket one that disappates heat better. shrugs, im not here for fights, im here to explore new opportunities.