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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Alright so I installed these pads about two months ago, and just recently have been having a horrible squeal when I slow down to a stop. It is embarassing. I have had two people say "time for new brakes huh". Why do they do it. The stopping power is awesome and the brake dust is considerable less then the stock pads (actually it just looks less becuase it appears almost redish in color)
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Alright so I installed these pads about two months ago, and just recently have been having a horrible squeal when I slow down to a stop. It is embarassing. I have had two people say "time for new brakes huh". Why do they do it. The stopping power is awesome and the brake dust is considerable less then the stock pads (actually it just looks less becuase it appears almost redish in color)
did you bed in the pads?
if not, here is your answer:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Yes I did....actually lit them on fire when doing so. The mechanic who was with me told me it was fine and that would get more life out of them.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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ya I heard his brakes at the meet on sunday, I was like damn that's loud.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Mines are doing the same thing. Although it bothers me a lot when city driving, it only happens if the applied brake pressure is really light. Stopping power is awesome !!!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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6Speed yea same with me. Sometime they wont do it at all. I think i t may depend on the temp out side or something. i have noticed with less humidiity in the air they are not making a sound.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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coop where did you go to set 'em on fire? I can't imagine a road with no traffic straight and long enough for me to do that around here.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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There is an industrial park right by my house on Trooper Rd (off of 422), there are many open areas to run your car. I did it on a sunday afternoon around 4pm. Did it for about 20 minutes and only ran into one other car....which coincedentally was doing the same thing I was.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Same here I changed my pads bout 2 weeks ago and they still sound horrible, its has to be the worst i've herd on any car so far.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by coop1018
There is an industrial park right by my house on Trooper Rd (off of 422), there are many open areas to run your car. I did it on a sunday afternoon around 4pm. Did it for about 20 minutes and only ran into one other car....which coincedentally was doing the same thing I was.

did the noise go away after that?
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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No, I did this right after I installed them. There was no sou nd till a few weeks later and it wont stop now...but it is not all the time. It is only happening when I am slowing down from about 20mph and it is humid outside.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Have you called Hawk?
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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No never thought about that. It really does not bother me that much. It happens about twice a week. But when it does occur, it is loud
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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i installed them about 2 weeks ago as well and the stoping power is awesome but when i drive around town around 5 mph they sing i really hate it i may go back to stock pads. It seems like it only happens when it is warm out
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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mine had begun to squeak like this after about a week (after they were so quiet for the first!) two nights ago i took some backroads home and 'lit them on fire' so to speak... no squeaks since!... maybe they needed a re-bed.

-i noitced before they squeaked more in humid weather.

-i have seen comments that these pads stop better than the brembo pads...i do not think so at all...the brembos had much more stopping power...

-the reduction in brake dust is spectacular-
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Keep in mind that all brake pads will release dust. A softer pad that stops better will probably release more dust. It's sorta like a grippy summer tire that wears quickly. The less dust it releases, the less braking power the pads will have. At least that is my understanding.

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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I am going back to the oem brembos pads these things are loud
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by deandorsey
mine had begun to squeak like this after about a week (after they were so quiet for the first!) two nights ago i took some backroads home and 'lit them on fire' so to speak... no squeaks since!... maybe they needed a re-bed.

-i noitced before they squeaked more in humid weather.

-i have seen comments that these pads stop better than the brembo pads...i do not think so at all...the brembos had much more stopping power...

-the reduction in brake dust is spectacular-
I have to differ. The Brembo (or Acura OEM) have a more noticeable initial bite. Hawk pads need some heat to be really effective.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6speedv6
I have to differ. The Brembo (or Acura OEM) have a more noticeable initial bite. Hawk pads need some heat to be really effective.
THey also need a silencer
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 6speedv6
I have to differ. The Brembo (or Acura OEM) have a more noticeable initial bite. Hawk pads need some heat to be really effective.

^^agreed- they do need to be warmed up....
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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AHHHH i just installed my stock Brembos again i will never go back to those Hawk pads to much low mph noise. they do work well but the bite on the stock brembos is better. At least the intial bite. I will say on the hawk pads no dust for 2 weeks on the rims i will miss that. but I can not take the squeak when driving around town and people yelling get your breaks fixed . That is embrassing I will save the hawks when i go road racing
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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AHHHH i just installed my stock Brembos again i will never go back to those Hawk pads to much low mph noise. they do work well but the bite on the stock brembos is better. At least the intial bite. I will say on the hawk pads no dust for 2 weeks on the rims i will miss that. but I can not take the squeak when driving around town and people yelling get your breaks fixed . That is embrassing I will save the hawks when i go road racing
https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/toyota-corolla-news-120386/
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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these pads piss me off. there sooooooooo loud. iv had them in for a month now and they squeak evey day no matter what and they are so loud. i even put anti squeal on them. wtf
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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i have come across the same problem with the rotex kevlar pads. silent for a few months and now they are usually pretty loud. i pretty sure its not yet at the point that my brembo pads reached, but its annoying nonetheless.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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I purchased the hawk ceramics for my automatic and haven't had any issues. Only thing I did was bed them in pretty well. Didn't use any of that "no-squeal" fluid on the pads that others have used.....
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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i have the same squeaking issue!! i have the HPS pad for my AT..and it squeaks like hell when it's warm WHILE i'm not applying brake from 0 to 60 KM/HR....i even changed my OEM rotor to powerslot rotor..it did the same squeaking....it really pisses me off!
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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For those with the Hawk pads and noise issue, did you properly bed in the new pads? I did and after around two months, I developed a high pitched squeaking when I apply the brakes lightly (6MT). I bedded my pads properly (rotors turned blue) and had two months noise free.

I might bed the pads in again to see if the noise goes away. Just wondering for those without noise - what did you do aside from installing them to get rid of the noise?
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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any AT TLer with hawk pad?? any issues?!
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Thats weird because Hawk HPS (if thats the compound you got) are suppose to be virtually noise free. No one complains about the Sentra pads being loud.

Also I thought you only bed in rotors, not pads?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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tonight i did some serious bedding. ill write back tomorrow to tell yall how it went. i did abot 10 hard stops from 100 to ten.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SNS Performance
Thats weird because Hawk HPS (if thats the compound you got) are suppose to be virtually noise free. No one complains about the Sentra pads being loud.

Also I thought you only bed in rotors, not pads?
Read this article about the bedding process and why...

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedintheory.shtml
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rstark
Read this article about the bedding process and why...

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedintheory.shtml
Yea I scanned through that but again, you bed the pads in/onto the rotors. If you change only your pads you dont have to bed them into the stock or used rotors.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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i installed the HPS pad on my OEM rotors..it squeaked like crazy...the problem is it squeak so much when the brake is NOT applying...
so i switched to powerslot rotors cuz i thought my wrapped OEM rotors was making the noise...
now the powerslot made the same noise and i bedded the pad with the powerslot already....
i will try and bed it again later when i'm going home next week...
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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Did you bed the Powerslots with new pads?
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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guys. if you dont want your brakes to squeek all you havve to do is follow those directions. it worked great for me.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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hmm...i bed the HPS pad with powerslot after 1 week of use..cuz i didn't have the time...
will i need to take out the pads and sand them and the rotors before re-bedding it?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SNS Performance
Yea I scanned through that but again, you bed the pads in/onto the rotors. If you change only your pads you dont have to bed them into the stock or used rotors.
Read the article again and read your reply - you bed the PADS into the rotors. Also, read this quote from the same article:
As stated above, the objective of the bed-in process is to deposit an even layer of brake pad material, or transfer layer , on the rubbing surface of the rotor disc. Note the emphasis on the word even, as uneven pad deposits on the rotor face are the number one, and almost exclusive cause of brake judder or vibration.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SNS Performance
Yea I scanned through that but again, you bed the pads in/onto the rotors. If you change only your pads you dont have to bed them into the stock or used rotors.
you do run the risk of developing "chatter" or an annoying vibration if you dont check the condition of the rotors. even if they are above the min thickness level you wont know for sure if the new pads will work well with the old rotors. beding will help reduce the chance that you will either need to turn the rotors or replace them.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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