phee

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it is on a dynojet. thats with headers and an intake. keep in mind i have a 6 speed.

im doing crush bends because mandrel bending shops charge an arm and a leg. since this is experimental i decided to go crush.

even after doing the full exhaust and then buying u bends and fabbing them for the exhaust bends will be cheaper than getting a fully mandrel bent system from the start.

phee

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oh.. and my powerband will be moved upward. you dont actually LOSE power down low..you just move it upward in the powerband

swoosh

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^^^ thanks a lot man....

it always confuses me ..... hope to hear the vidz pretty soon....and $$$ does seem to look pretty nice on my end....prolly will have this by summer as well

phee

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im guessing somewhere around 10hp.

swoosh

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yeah less than 10hp for the catback....you forget eliminating the ugly jpipe....and a jpipe upgrade ATLP or RV6 or XLR8 yeilds another 8-10hp...prolly more....

finally the precats give out pretty much similar gains the jpipe+catback give you !!! ~18-20.....

now all of this was on separate cars.....am not saying lets add them up and graduate !!! thats why i am expecting atleast a 25-30 whp going from stock exhaust from the pre cats to a precat deleted true dual !!!

btw i hope i didnt misunderstand your previous post !!! that being said....the catless TL is going smell like shit

phee

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yea. i may see more since im removing the j pipe. keep in mind i have a 2nd gen

subinf

Yup. We looked into getting a mandrel machine and realized it wasn't worth it. We did some jobs by buying mandrel pieces and then welding them together but it was a huge pain in the ass and it was very expensive for the customer. On most cars using a regular pipe machine is just fine. And a hell of a lot cheaper. Shit, even using a TIG welder is more expensive.

Maddizm

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Do you happen to know if a true dual will work with JandR's turbo setup? Or is that all collected into one merge pipe? I still have no clue. thanks.

phee

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J&r are most likelye collecting exhaust from both banks (front and rear) this merges into one pipe and spins the turbo. u dont want a true dual. with a turbo u want a fat single.

phee

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amen brother. i would never pay 1k for some exhaust pipe work.

phee

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Magnaflow 11226. In my trunk

swoosh

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phee

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guy who was doing my duals got arrested for fraud. since i had the money in hand and i want to buy new gauges i ended up going with a custom catback. single to dual split. 2.5 to the mufflers and boy does it sound good. HFC coming soon and ill dyno.

swoosh

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sweet...i might get to the shop in a week or two and get mine done as well !!!

I hate cars

I run dual exhaust on my turbo car. But there's no such thing as a true dual on a single turbo car. All 6 cylinders have to merge into one to feed the turbo. Once it exits the turbo via the downpipe you can split it into duals if you want. It's really personal choice. Duals are usually quieter than singles with the same mufflers. Sound between the two will be more or less the same with the turbo. You can go with something a little louder on the turbo car since the turbo itself will make it a bit quieter during normal driving. However, once under full boost it can get pretty loud.

You should hear some of our turbo cars that are pushing close to 30psi. They're so quiet at idle and normal driving but once they hit boost they can be heard for miles.

swoosh

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btw guess what came in the mail today !!!

phee

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Majofo

swoosh

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niceness !!!

:this thread is worthless without VIDS !!!! :

you beat me to it man !!! i still got 2 weeks to get the setup up and working !!!

phee

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someone told me it sounds like atlp with hfc and no rasp

swoosh

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i dont see any resonators.....so you have 2 dual pipes from your headers to mufflers right ??? no cats no resonators !!! and how long are your mufflers ???

that didnt sounds right !!! what are the dimensions of the mufflers.....there ya go !!!

AtlM5

I can't wait to see a video. Haha phee, I just realized why your profile picture looks familiar...that guy kicks ass.

supra98

im waiting for that clip 2

subinf

^ - Do you have a supra?

phee

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no.my dual guy got into some issues and couldnt do the true dual. thats a soft y split right where the resonator should be and the mufflers are 14 inches. its 2.5 from the cat back. but no resonators. and no rasp

timb24

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Check out this custom exhaust thread if you haven't already.....

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/got-my-custom-exhaust-today-its-so-sick-720563/

swoosh

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to be honest i have seen your thread before....but yours and mine are 2 very different setup !!! its a true dual compared to a cat back !!! but yes your exhaust sounds very very impressive !!!

what mufflers are you using (length) ??

timb24

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I wish I could take credit, but its not my thread! haha. I went the lazy route and got the ATLP

I Just remember reading it awhile back and loving how it came out...

swoosh

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yeah it sure did sound sweet....now if only my installer would call me back....i have ceramic coated precats and the tips waiting for the install !!!

phee

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those are the same mufflers i have. and my y flows beter in the place that it sits now

swoosh

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for some reason am very

phee

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2.5 piping. 2.5 cat. 2.5 headrs. 2.5 magnaflow straight throughs.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=EEXcoN

nuetral rev, accelerate then gear shift. then WOT before tunnel and WOT in tunnel. two downshifts (3-2)

swoosh

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WOW !!!! sounds really nice man !!!

Majofo

Your exhaust sounds mean Phee.. sounds almost as deep as a v8 but way sexier. lol.

phee

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l .

swoosh

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OK SO LETS REVIVE THE THREAD

I came across a good exhaust shop in KC....and he gave me a quote for the exhaust....if all goes good, I should have the exhaust by end of next week....

He says he can have 2.25" true dual exhaust for ~$1100 with mufflers/resonators/flex pipes included....he will also throw in the before and after dynos....

he says if i go the route of 2.5" true dual he can do it 950-ish.....

The only thing that is worrying me is:
"straight sections will be 409 stainless and some of the bends would have to be 304 stainless."

My questions are:
1> Is it worth it ? $1100 for a 409 SS exhaust
2> Any objections with going with 2.5" all the way back ? or will it not have enough back pressure ? I dont wanna cheap out but just thinking about it.....

Lets get this thread back on the track so you all can hear what a true dual sounds like

greco9885

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id go with all 304, resists corrosion better

swoosh

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I told him the same....waiting back to hear from him.....for 1100 i can get richies almost true dual

AckTL05

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Most places use 409 and that is a good deal if they good a good job and use all magnaflow mufflers/stainless hangers/bolts and such.

myron

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you said a flex pipe too? So he is doing a jpipe too then? For 1100 that's not bad.