DYNOs - Before and After AEM + CT Catback
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#122
Either way the hp increases noted here are pretty darn large for just CAI and exhaust. The stock 259 is just hp without considering drivetrain loss... Im about to have the AEM and Greddy Evo II installed so I can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Does any one have a 2008 Acura TL-S? If so, are you going to or thinking about engine performance parts - i.e. air intake system, computer chip - to increase horsepower? Is it worth it? Do they make electronic computer chips for AcuraTLs?
Thanks.
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#127
It seems like the TL is designed kind of restricted. I think lexus is the same way. K and N has released an intake for my GS that adds 18.1 whp . They have posted dynographs to shoow proof. I am interested in this intake system for my wifes car to help add some power and a little response.
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It seems like the TL is designed kind of restricted. I think lexus is the same way. K and N has released an intake for my GS that adds 18.1 whp . They have posted dynographs to shoow proof. I am interested in this intake system for my wifes car to help add some power and a little response.
#129
I understand your point. But if you can pull gains like that out of an Acura, you can get the same gains out of a Lexus. The member who started the thread got some amazing gains with 2 of the simplest mods you can do. Lexus build extremely quiet cars, so I would say they are running with restrictions/baffles on the intake and the exhaust to keep the car lexus quiet. There has to be some decent gains possible there.
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I'm thinging of modifying my tl i need some help any you guys know
I'm thinging of putting a AEM V2 Cold Air in take And a Greddy dual catback exhaust. On my tl do any of you guys know if it will add good horse power and gas efficiency. First timei start to hook up my whip.
#132
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There were other factors involved here. An intake will decrease your quarter 1/10 at best; possibly 1.5/10. 3/10 in the 1/8 mile is like 6/10 in the quarter. 7-8 whp isn't going to accomplish that. I'd attribute it to different weather conditions and an improvement in your driving.
#133
whoa wow wtf?? wait I thought the 3gen tls were pulling 258 on the dynos.. stock. Maybe I am just confused, but arent the new numbers for the 06 Tl the accurate dyno readings for our tls?? I thought thats why it went from 270 to 258. Or are dyno chart readings not the same as what is advertised by companies. I know they inflate numbers, but when you first advertise something as 270 and then it does 200 something is wrong. PLZ help a dyno newb in need!!!
258hp=brake horsepower
200~235 something horsepower from dyno is wheel horsepower after drivetrain loss.
so that 200 something horsepower from dyno is wheel horsepower, and yes it has 258 brake horsepower
#135
Racer
Tell me that TL that did 199 HP at the wheels was a stock automatic car. Then I would want to know the condition of the car, because no offense to the owner of that car, but that is a 23% loss in horsepower through the driveline which is terrible. I would want to know the condition of the car and make sure everything is at 100%. Again no offense, that number just seems too low. And thats 23% loss off the 258 hp number. It would obviously be more using the 270 horsepower.
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Tell me that TL that did 199 HP at the wheels was a stock automatic car. Then I would want to know the condition of the car, because no offense to the owner of that car, but that is a 23% loss in horsepower through the driveline which is terrible. I would want to know the condition of the car and make sure everything is at 100%. Again no offense, that number just seems too low. And thats 23% loss off the 258 hp number. It would obviously be more using the 270 horsepower.
#137
Racer
That would explain that number. I 've never heard of any 3rd gen TL doing less than 200 hp at the wheels. I got kind of concerned about the car when I saw that number.
#138
Three Wheelin'
4th gear is the closest to 1:1 ratio.... was this a 5AT, or 6MT?
#139
J36Twingt28r's,nextgt30r
yeah ^^ to answer that question i have a 5at too and the way the people on the 7th gen forums said it was to use 3rd gear for auto's and 4th for manual. i may be wrong but i will post my dynos comparing the two then as soon as i get a dyno done.
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Three Wheelin'
then, thats correct
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close to a 30hp gain at the wheel is super awesome for 2 basic bolts-on. threads like these are the sh!t, so much good stuff. Definitely investing in these, thanks dude.
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I am thinking about doing the AEM CAI, XLR8 J Pipe and Comptech Exhaust to my 04 TL. I am currently running a Stage 3 Setup on the exhaust and am wondering 2 things!
1. What will the sound differnece be? I like the way it sounds now so im hoping it will be close!
2. How much noticable differnce do you "feel" in the car with these Mods? I see the Dyno numbers and they seem impressive but how much differnce does it really make??
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Yukoncole
1. What will the sound differnece be? I like the way it sounds now so im hoping it will be close!
2. How much noticable differnce do you "feel" in the car with these Mods? I see the Dyno numbers and they seem impressive but how much differnce does it really make??
Thanks,
Yukoncole
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I am thinking about doing the AEM CAI, XLR8 J Pipe and Comptech Exhaust to my 04 TL. I am currently running a Stage 3 Setup on the exhaust and am wondering 2 things!
1. What will the sound differnece be? I like the way it sounds now so im hoping it will be close!
2. How much noticable differnce do you "feel" in the car with these Mods? I see the Dyno numbers and they seem impressive but how much differnce does it really make??
Thanks,
Yukoncole
1. What will the sound differnece be? I like the way it sounds now so im hoping it will be close!
2. How much noticable differnce do you "feel" in the car with these Mods? I see the Dyno numbers and they seem impressive but how much differnce does it really make??
Thanks,
Yukoncole
Manual pushes more air and responds better to exhaust and intake mods with good gains. Auto is weak and down on torque down low as is and more so with any exhaust work. Plus, you get a drone at a certain rpm with any aftermarket exhaust unless you invest in a big resonator, more so with an auto. Still, Comptech is probably the quietest exhaust out of all aftermarket. I recommend investing in an intake (AEM) only. It makes the induction sounds much angrier compared to a relaxed factory concoction but you get good gains in power and throttle response noticeable in every day driving. If you go easy you might see some mpg improvement too. Don't bother with a j-pipe, spacers, pulleys and stuff like that, not worth the money for minimal gains IMHO>My 2 cents on the issue
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Auto or manual?
Manual pushes more air and responds better to exhaust and intake mods with good gains. Auto is weak and down on torque down low as is and more so with any exhaust work. Plus, you get a drone at a certain rpm with any aftermarket exhaust unless you invest in a big resonator, more so with an auto. Still, Comptech is probably the quietest exhaust out of all aftermarket. I recommend investing in an intake (AEM) only. It makes the induction sounds much angrier compared to a relaxed factory concoction but you get good gains in power and throttle response noticeable in every day driving. If you go easy you might see some mpg improvement too. Don't bother with a j-pipe, spacers, pulleys and stuff like that, not worth the money for minimal gains IMHO>My 2 cents on the issue
Manual pushes more air and responds better to exhaust and intake mods with good gains. Auto is weak and down on torque down low as is and more so with any exhaust work. Plus, you get a drone at a certain rpm with any aftermarket exhaust unless you invest in a big resonator, more so with an auto. Still, Comptech is probably the quietest exhaust out of all aftermarket. I recommend investing in an intake (AEM) only. It makes the induction sounds much angrier compared to a relaxed factory concoction but you get good gains in power and throttle response noticeable in every day driving. If you go easy you might see some mpg improvement too. Don't bother with a j-pipe, spacers, pulleys and stuff like that, not worth the money for minimal gains IMHO>My 2 cents on the issue
#150
All motor
#152
Three Wheelin'
Auto or manual?
Manual pushes more air and responds better to exhaust and intake mods with good gains. Auto is weak and down on torque down low as is and more so with any exhaust work. Plus, you get a drone at a certain rpm with any aftermarket exhaust unless you invest in a big resonator, more so with an auto. Still, Comptech is probably the quietest exhaust out of all aftermarket. I recommend investing in an intake (AEM) only. It makes the induction sounds much angrier compared to a relaxed factory concoction but you get good gains in power and throttle response noticeable in every day driving. If you go easy you might see some mpg improvement too. Don't bother with a j-pipe, spacers, pulleys and stuff like that, not worth the money for minimal gains IMHO>My 2 cents on the issue
Manual pushes more air and responds better to exhaust and intake mods with good gains. Auto is weak and down on torque down low as is and more so with any exhaust work. Plus, you get a drone at a certain rpm with any aftermarket exhaust unless you invest in a big resonator, more so with an auto. Still, Comptech is probably the quietest exhaust out of all aftermarket. I recommend investing in an intake (AEM) only. It makes the induction sounds much angrier compared to a relaxed factory concoction but you get good gains in power and throttle response noticeable in every day driving. If you go easy you might see some mpg improvement too. Don't bother with a j-pipe, spacers, pulleys and stuff like that, not worth the money for minimal gains IMHO>My 2 cents on the issue
the biggest difference of all comes from 5 speed vs. 6 speed (im leaving out the torque converter, fluids, blah blah blah..they all add up to some loss)
you feel that ur manual accelerates through a gear quicker than the auto on the same gear...thats not because its "pushing more air"...its because the gear on the manual is shorter, which makes the motor climb up in the power band faster
so next time you install an intake on the same car, but with different trannies...the motor gains are the same...the reason u see higher number on the manual car, is because..well, that car already puts out a higher number!!!
and when i say "the same" i mean within 1-2 hp difference....bcs in real life, even 2 identical manual cars will put out a different number within a few hp
#154
Instructor
Not going to do the cat back- has anyone concretely determined how much gain a cold air intake provides? I am at high altitude in Denver, so I am wondering if my gain will be more or less than others at lower elevations.
#155
I have a 04 tl auto it put down 211 hp and 197 torque stock. It put down 255 hp and. 234 torque with aem cold air atlp j-pipe,race pipe and port polished shaved 30thousands heads untuned
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Does anyone have any Dyno numbers yet for an 07-08 Acura TL Type-S 6spd with an AEM CAI + any catback exhaust?
An exhaust system is the next mod for me. Just curious on which brand exhaust system has the better bang for the buck.
An exhaust system is the next mod for me. Just curious on which brand exhaust system has the better bang for the buck.
#157
Burning Brakes
what about the K&N system, is the aem that much better? it is technically the same thing...
I guess I could just buy a AEM intake filter and put it on the tubing from the k&n kit to get better gains?
I guess I could just buy a AEM intake filter and put it on the tubing from the k&n kit to get better gains?
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