DIY 4" intake
03-24-2013, 06:20 PM
#41
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Eh maybe I just got a second job so I'm doing 70 hours a week right now. So idk if id have enough time to get them out unless people didn't mind it taking some time like 3-4 weeks.
I also want to add, yes mine fit with the battery cover. However with the tl and tls being different it may not fit. I didn't get a lot of feed back from the one I made. All I know is that he couldn't make it fit. Without knowing exactly why I wouldn't want someone else out of there money unless they know and understand that they would be a guinea pig. I didn't like that the other guy was out here and I certainly am not here to intentionally out people of there money.
I also want to add, yes mine fit with the battery cover. However with the tl and tls being different it may not fit. I didn't get a lot of feed back from the one I made. All I know is that he couldn't make it fit. Without knowing exactly why I wouldn't want someone else out of there money unless they know and understand that they would be a guinea pig. I didn't like that the other guy was out here and I certainly am not here to intentionally out people of there money.
03-28-2013, 08:51 PM
#42
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Interesting.. So there is about 1-1.5 inch difference between the accord an tl. I made a trial one for a member and he couldn't get it to fit because I cut it to spec for an accord thinking it was the same. Once I found out it wasn't I sent him a 6" extension to more than make up the loss and for whatever reason it still didn't fit for him. However looking at this, I see no reason why it wouldn't.. Odd.
Paperboy, what did you do with the breather hose from the manifold? I believe some people are just using a small filter on the end of it. I also have the IAT sensor to deal with since I have no provision for it on the 3.7 manifold. I can either relocate it under the front bumper or drill and have a bung welded into the 4" intake, which is what I'd rather do. Might as well weld on a second port for the breather hose while I'm there.
probably not
03-29-2013, 01:48 PM
#43
Team Owner
For the 100th time, intake mods before the throttlebody have absolutely no detrimental effect on low or midrange torque. I wish that myth would die already.
Explain how you can lose torque by going with a higher flowing, larger diameter intake piping? If this were true, if more restriction equals more low end, we would make peak torque at idle when the throttle is closed.
The throttle IS the single biggest restriction, that's it's only job in life, that's what it does, throttle the air to control engine output. Anything below full throttle, the throttlebody is dictating airflow, not the plumbing or filter or whatever. So again, no loss of low end can possibly be experienced by freeing up the intake system unless you also believe that you can make more low end at part throttle instead of full throttle.
My take on these intakes is you've got nothing to lose. Probably nothing to gain but who knows. I have a 4' inlet and it supports over 600whp but it's only a foot and a half long. With the additional plumbing length of the TL, it might possibly gain a couple hp. Then again, 2hp is well within the error range of the dyno.
What I'm curious about is on that dyno sheet, the car loses power around 4k rpm with the 3.7 manifold and 3" CAI and the loss disappears with the 4" plumbing.
Explain how you can lose torque by going with a higher flowing, larger diameter intake piping? If this were true, if more restriction equals more low end, we would make peak torque at idle when the throttle is closed.
The throttle IS the single biggest restriction, that's it's only job in life, that's what it does, throttle the air to control engine output. Anything below full throttle, the throttlebody is dictating airflow, not the plumbing or filter or whatever. So again, no loss of low end can possibly be experienced by freeing up the intake system unless you also believe that you can make more low end at part throttle instead of full throttle.
My take on these intakes is you've got nothing to lose. Probably nothing to gain but who knows. I have a 4' inlet and it supports over 600whp but it's only a foot and a half long. With the additional plumbing length of the TL, it might possibly gain a couple hp. Then again, 2hp is well within the error range of the dyno.
What I'm curious about is on that dyno sheet, the car loses power around 4k rpm with the 3.7 manifold and 3" CAI and the loss disappears with the 4" plumbing.
03-29-2013, 03:41 PM
#44
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For the 100th time, intake mods before the throttlebody have absolutely no detrimental effect on low or midrange torque. I wish that myth would die already.
Explain how you can lose torque by going with a higher flowing, larger diameter intake piping? If this were true, if more restriction equals more low end, we would make peak torque at idle when the throttle is closed.
The throttle IS the single biggest restriction, that's it's only job in life, that's what it does, throttle the air to control engine output. Anything below full throttle, the throttlebody is dictating airflow, not the plumbing or filter or whatever. So again, no loss of low end can possibly be experienced by freeing up the intake system unless you also believe that you can make more low end at part throttle instead of full throttle.
My take on these intakes is you've got nothing to lose. Probably nothing to gain but who knows. I have a 4' inlet and it supports over 600whp but it's only a foot and a half long. With the additional plumbing length of the TL, it might possibly gain a couple hp. Then again, 2hp is well within the error range of the dyno.
What I'm curious about is on that dyno sheet, the car loses power around 4k rpm with the 3.7 manifold and 3" CAI and the loss disappears with the 4" plumbing.
Explain how you can lose torque by going with a higher flowing, larger diameter intake piping? If this were true, if more restriction equals more low end, we would make peak torque at idle when the throttle is closed.
The throttle IS the single biggest restriction, that's it's only job in life, that's what it does, throttle the air to control engine output. Anything below full throttle, the throttlebody is dictating airflow, not the plumbing or filter or whatever. So again, no loss of low end can possibly be experienced by freeing up the intake system unless you also believe that you can make more low end at part throttle instead of full throttle.
My take on these intakes is you've got nothing to lose. Probably nothing to gain but who knows. I have a 4' inlet and it supports over 600whp but it's only a foot and a half long. With the additional plumbing length of the TL, it might possibly gain a couple hp. Then again, 2hp is well within the error range of the dyno.
What I'm curious about is on that dyno sheet, the car loses power around 4k rpm with the 3.7 manifold and 3" CAI and the loss disappears with the 4" plumbing.
03-29-2013, 05:02 PM
#45
Team Owner
Are you referring to something I said? About midrange, it looks like there's no longer a drop off at 4k which is why I mentioned it.
03-29-2013, 06:19 PM
#46
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Because Sonnick gained around 10-5wtq in the midrange by switching from the V1 to his 4 inch cai.
03-29-2013, 06:28 PM
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03-29-2013, 06:29 PM
#48
Team Owner
Do you know what detrimental means?
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