they use a dynopack dyno, which is a great dyno for tuning.

 

did you win ??? losing sucks, because it always affects the ride. i lost a couple g's 3 weeks ago, which put my blower and BBK on hold..... sucks....

 

is there anyone in NY or NJ area that could reflash our NA's?

 

Still the same belt, or would it be a diff size?

 

should be the same size. i got my HBP right before they supposedly closed their doors and they never said anything about a different belt. i think our we have automatic tensioners.

 

DYNO IS HERE! 294.1 HP 260.8 TQ @ 6.4 PSI BOOST. I put the chart & video on the hondata reflash thread. As soon as I can get my hands on a j-pipe & catback, I'll dyno again. I love my numbers!

 

Is that number with the HBP?

 

pardon my french... but...

FCKING SWEET !!!!!!! it has to be HBP (6.4psi)

catback, jpipe.... over 300whp on a 5AT.

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but you do have the reflash. something we cant get our hands on yet.. or so i've heard

 

does the HBP affect your ride quality, a/c or alternator??

 

ohhhhh. and you might want to do yourself a favor.. when (and if) i get boosted... i would get the Long LPD tranny cooler since you've got a 5AT. im sure your beating the hell outta it !!!

 

When i had the 3.2 motor and HBP, i had up to 7.5~8psi of boost. I also had the E-shift procats at that time. Just wondering why your boost is lower.

 

Could be the custom J-pipe. Opening up the flow will cause a drop in boost. Some of the guys experience that with an open exhaust cutout.

 

mrlunecy doesn't have a j-pipe or exhaust. i wonder why his boost w/ HBP is lower than lookinco.

 

hmmm good question....ive heard people put out around 8-9psi... but i doubt he has a boost gauge.. so how do you tell how much boost without a gauge..

 

The shop had a gauge so they measured the boost right there when the car was on the rollers

Doesn't seem like this guy even has the HBP on the car yet

Probable explanation for his high boost with the regular pulley is that his intake and exhaust are fairly clogged up in comparison to mine,for example, I have the CT exhaust, custom j-pipe, custom intake, all the thing that should open up the flow and lower the boost.

Still with the stock pulley I was boosting 4psi, with the HBP twice as much!

 

hey actros. u dyno it yet?

 

yeah a while ago
320hp/270tq to the wheels

 

8psi..really?

 

that makes sense. my other buddy that was second to SC his 7th gen accord showed he was boosting about 1psi more than me, but he doesnt have the pro-cats and full catback, but he is auto, while im 6spd.

actros are you 6mt or 5at? maybe that can be it

you guys also have to remember, shawn at church automotive uses a dynopack, dynometer, which will give you higher numbers than any other dyno. on the top part of the dyno chart, it usually says flywheel torque and flywheel hp. they physically take your wheels off the car and connect the hubs straight to the machine, minusing the rotating mass of the wheels. so actually dynopacks show hp to the hubs and not true WHP. i believe it shows anywhere from 8-10% higher than a standard dynojet. nevertheless, those are still great #'s for a 5at.

 

HOLD UR HORSES GUYS! No I DO NOT have the HBP! Just pro cats, s/c & reflash. That's why my boost is 6.4. Doug the Hondata Brain say's it's perfectly good. He doesn't recommend the HBP even with his current reflash version cuz the the car will run way lean at the top end.

After I finish freeing up the exhaust (j-pipe & catback) boost pressure should drop about 1.8-2.0 psi & still run with better gains, just lower temperature cuz of the lower pressure.

 

Now that make more sense, i would expect the 3.2motor with HBP to make more then 300whp.

When I had the 3.2 with regular pulley, I only saw around 4.5psi of boost. I had the E-procat, 3rd cat delete, and stock catback at that time.

 

btw, with just the regular pulley and no catback and J-pipe, 294whp is very good!!!!

You will get over 300whp with the exhaust mod. Can't imagine what the HBP would do.

So with the reflash your redline is 7300rpm and your Vtec comes in at 3000rpm?

 

I know, thanks! redline 7200. yeah, the HBP will be with bigger injectors. you got a custom intake on urs?

 

Yes i do have a custom cold air intake on mine. It's just a simple U-bend and a pipe down to the bumper opening.

As for the HBP, I think you can get away with the stock injectors. Do you happen to know the duty cycle of your current injectors with the regular pulley?

There are people running the HBP and is still running pig rich, so I believe the stock injector should flow enough fuel for the HBP.

Do you know which aftermarket injectors would fit the TL?

 

My car is 04 TL AT, dyno took place on a dynojet at ESP, it was hot as hell that day too. Icepack helped otherwise the ECU was severely retarding ignition.

Mrlunecy what was you air/fuel ration at the time of the dyno or whatever?

In my case the HBP stabilized the AFR, bringing it to a more "normal" 11.5 at WOT from the pig rich 10 and lower before the HBP install. So the HBP can do some good in that respect actually. Always check your AFR first, you might be running lean and the HBP would only make it worse.

 

Yeah, I ask cuz I got one put in today. Some guy that did Ussi's. It looks great! They used 3 inch U bend pipe coupled to the inlet half of my old AEM CAI & filter. I was wondering if it can have a negative affect on performance. 4 some reason I feel like the bottom end feels a bit slugish. Power transition from low to high rpm doesn't feel as smooth as before.But I could be smoking cr@ck.

 

awe, sh!t...I saw the chart but don't remember the numbers. I just know they were pretty consistant, not too rich, not too lean. Thanks for the valuable info. I def will get a HBP because it's inexpensive. See if it helps or not. Good thing it's easy to swap so I can do it between dyno runs!

 

oh, and I don't know what injectors would fit, sorry.

 

Try disconnecting the battery and leaving it off for a while, then reconnect and let the ECU relearn with your new mod, drive aggressively. Might help!

 

Anybody tried the S2000 injectors on the 3rd gen yet?

 

OK, that makes perfect sense, just like you said with catback and j-pipe you'll lose back pressure and boost, which is also perfectly fine in terms of efficiency.

 

i know the current injectors are 240cc running at 95% capacity so with the HBP, bigger injectors will help IMO.

 

ussi, i saw you said you only used the primary pro-cats. Any chance did you get inspection while they were on? I was just wondering how my NA car with 2 cats would do for emission. The company that makes the cats are they called Metal Cat?

 

sounds familiar, all i know is that eshift does the final assembly. No inspection yet, my guess is it might pass emissions, but not visual (in cali anyways..).

 

here is their website, they look very close...

http://www.metalcat.com.au/

 

Yep, this is what ESP start out with then fabricate to fit the TL/Accord!

 

Rsx type-S injectors will fit.

You don't need more fuel except when running HBP at high rpms.

 

Have you had yours inspected in Cali???

One of the guys who lives in my neighborhood works for an emissions place, but still makes me nervous..

One last thing,,, WHY does it fail visual inspection? Is it just becuase it is not stock?

thanks

 

RSX Type-S injectors will fit? What's the size of those injectors? I need bigger ones !!!

 

In CA, you can't replace the cats unless they are defective.