Fatfrii

so im currently doing some thinking about how i am going to set up my exhaust. its been holding me back for quite some time now. I am not completely sure if its possible but i want to get a RV6 v3 j pipe and get a custom true dual exhaust joined like the merge point on the j pipe to make and x-pipe.

further more...i am so finicky with this mod that i cant even decide what tips to get. are there any dual tips the fit on the base bumper with aspec? i like how the the stock tipsfit the bumper i just wish it was more flush like the lexus LS. can they be flarred? what other sinlge tips look good?

if anyone has any pics i would love some. iv got the cash and i am so eager to get my exhaust done but i dont want to regret my choices down the road.

friesm2000

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stock tips modded for the bigger exhaust, but maintain that stock apperence though



edit: just saw how you want the tips where more flush with the bumper; being a custom exhaust, would not be that hard to extend them a little for a more flush apperence

Fatfrii

yeah iv seen that b4. anthracite aspec has that done i think he was the first but iv seen a few others with it. but i was thinking that and make the hole of the tip wider to fit the space in the rear bumper flusg but that seems impossible. ill photoshop my idea

Fatfrii

so this is what it looks like now...sorry in advance for the shitty phone pic and the lazy 2 min photpshop edit.

how it is now


and how i would like it to look

Toddy

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I thought about doing the same thing. I had the idea of cutting a couple set of stock tips apart and welding the pieces back together to fit the hole better

Fatfrii

Wtf was acura thinking

Comptechtl2367

I dont think Acura did so bad, at least they didnt go along with the fake tip craze Lexus and Benz are going with.

friesm2000

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you basically mean to have the stock tips to fill out the bumper openings more then stock, simple enough, not a super easy task though

possible, but they would have to be rechromed afterwards, but should be easy enough to find somebody/ship them out (small enough)

they also did not want to have any chance of anything rubbing (noise, or damage), or melting the bumper's plastic away
so for a "normal" person it is about as close you can get it without it causing issues

Fatfrii

yeah heat would be a major issue didnt think of that.....well what other single tips options can i go with? what looks good on hour cars. and how wide can the tips be with an aspec lip?

Toddy

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Dude you can get way closer than the factory did and not have to worry about heat damaging things. If you are truely worried about it you can try something like this. Its very popular in Diesel trucks equipped with a Diesel Particulate Filter. It pulls cooler air in to reduce the amount of heat at the exhaust tip since diesel exhausts can reach over 800 degrees. Heres a shot from Bank's website

http://assets.bankspower.com/prod_in...oolCuff_ad.pdf

Sonnick

If you get the V3 Jpipe, you won't have a true dual exhaust. The only way to have a TD is to have a shop do your exhaust from where the Precats bolt to the Jpipe, back to your mufflers. You would want 2.25in pipes extending from each Precat, then into an Xpipe, then whatever resonator you want, and mufflers at the end. If I were to do it, I'd go with 1 Magnaflow muffler with an X-pipe inside, then another Magnaflow resonator, and then 2 Magnaflow/Vibrant mufflers at the end. If you still have the stock Precats, you may not need the extra Magnaflow resonator.

friesm2000

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there is more of a safety margin being that it is a stock exhaust/bumper, so you can probably be safe getting them closer, but don't know how much you could get away with though before having issues

Fatfrii

THANK YOU!!!! gosh every1 just jumped on the tips! thats the least important part. So do you think that would create more power than an RV6 jpipe and RV6 exhast set up?

Fatfrii

i should just skip the jpipe and go custom all the way shouldnt I? or will RV6's new jpipe be that much better? im sure he put research in it and i dont wanna cheap out on the j pipe thats where the low end torque is at meed needed with these cars.....

where is "i hate cars" when u need him

callahan

I would get his jpipe, then have your X to a magnaflow resonator on either side. If u have pre cat deletes I would get a 12" or 14" resonators, I you don't I would go with 6" or 8" resonators, then finally two short base manaflow mufflers. This set up would sounds great without being super loud or have a ton of drone.

Sonnick

Ready my post above. If you want a true dual, don't get the Jpipe because it won't be a TD.

"I Hate Cars" is currently bashing cars as we speak...

callahan

For max performance every dual exhaust system needs a X or H to even exhaust flow and help with clearing the cylinders of exhaust .

Fatfrii

the name makes so much sense now.

well as of now, if i were to ignorently and impulsivly get exhaust done tommorow , i would have rv6 high flow precats then all custom true dual after that.

what im not sure about is if i should x pipe or H pipe, honestly dont know squat about resonator (except it will prevent drone), and i dont know if i should go flowmaster or magnaflow. i am more concerned with power than sound but i will not accept drone! lol

sorry im being super anal, its not like my koni's or coilovers wherei can adjust them when ever

Stepien20

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Its a car forum you have every right to be anal and im sure IHC will chime in sooner or later.

justnspace

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I havent known I hate cars as an exhaust guru....I'm sure he's knowledgeable

but these guys have first hand experience with the TL
I would speak to Opel and even Richie V6.
Sonnic has experience as well.

friesm2000

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Fatfrii

richies products look awesome but i think he will just tell me to buy his products lol which in my opinion he should do lol

glad ur enjoying the show friesm2000

@justnspace what do u mean these guys? who are the exhaust gurus?

Fatfrii

lost me here...xpipe inside a muffler????? and im leaning towards going to go with RV6 HFPC. i just need to research more on power gains and the power band. i read on here that it makes low end torque worse but the guy didnt sound very intelligent.

but hey im no guru either, not a noob but have much to learn. i need to speak to the Yoda of exhasut. take you to him, i will

callahan

I would go with a x at richie's jpipe and go with two separate muffler and resonators. For piping I would do dual 2.25" unless your planing on any f/I.

Sonnick

I may not be the Yoda of exhaust (lol & possibly Opel), but I've been through a decent amount of exhausts and have done enough extensive research to know what should work and what shouldn't.

If you go with the HFCs, you will have very little to absolutley 0 rasp. No one, to my knowledge, has gone "true duals" on the TL, so I can only say that there will be no rasp based on this. I will say that the HFCs paired with a good Xpipe, medium sized resonator, 2 medium sized mufflers, should result in no rasp at all.

Since you said you are more concerned about power than sound, go with Magnaflow straight through mufflers. They not only sound great, but perform even better. With regards to the X pipe inside the muffler, this is what I mean. (Magnaflow part # for 2.25in piping and X-pipe inside is 11385).

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...53_cutaway.jpg

That is a Dynomax muffler with an Xpipe inside. Basically it's a quieter Xpipe, because it has muffler packing around it to absorb some of the sound waves. You can't go wrong with Dynomax or Magnaflow, both are very free flowing. Flowmaster mufflers are chambered, and hamper performance. Whichever you go with should be 2.25in. I guess you could go 2.5in piping, but I wouldn't recommend it in an all motor applicaton.

In terms of "resonators," I'd probably go with 1 Magnaflow 11378. It only has an 11in body, but with the HFCs, you shouldn't need a huge resonator underneath, especially after the 'muffled Xpipe.' I'd then go with your choice of 2 mufflers at the rear. Either Vibrant or Magnaflow would be my 2 choices. For Magnaflow, I'd recommend 2 14215s (14in body) or 14245s (18in body). They are SS and polished (the 14xxx just means they are polished, as opposed to 12xxx, which is not polished).

Fatfrii

^mmmm real information tastes so intelligent

do resonators effect performance or just sound?

justnspace

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Thanks sonnick for speaking up about your experiences.

Fatfrii

im also having trouble finding any info on the RV6 HFPCs. richies website hardly displays any info. im sure they sound smooth but likei said B4 im more concerned with power. All i know is that they have a 200 cell chamber wich sounds nice in comparison to ATLP's 300 cell HFC. however, ATLP's product is a HF 3rd cat not the PC

justnspace

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so what the eff is your question....?
the base pre-cat is a 900 cell chamber, i believe.
the tl-s pre-cat is a 600 cell chamber.
can you conclude what a 200 cell chamber would be like?

Fatfrii

Justnspace,
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justnspace

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fatfriii, I helped you out by getting sonnick to talk about his experiences. I knew that he has experience with exhausts on his accord.

Furthermoar, this is a public forum. if you dont like what people have to say, Please visit this link...

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P1zzaman

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justnspace

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^well played.

callahan

^^+1

Fatfrii

when i wanna chill i personally prefer to visit

no im not about to get banned for making a link to a porn site lol

ok back to exhaust....i wanna know how resonators work and how they effect performance (if they do)

Fatfrii

well now we all know pizza man is a pedophile....JKJKJKJK man lol

Fatfrii

a wise man once said "All the opinions of every master motorist are useless"

so true cuz after tons of research im still stuck on choosing between an x-pipe and an H-pipe.

also not sure if i should get a resonator or not with HFPCs, muffled xpipe (if i choose it) and two large 18" mufflers.

Sonnick what do u think xpipe or Hpipe? and y?

Fatfrii

ok right now i am stuck trying to decide how far the merge point (xpipe), in terms on piping length, is going to be from the first cats. how the hell am i supposed to know when the exhaust pulses begin to loose their velocity and weaken scavenging effect.
i need a true true exhaust expert with experience with the TL (sonnick thanx again for all the info)

(i really need to get cars off my mind)