To my understanding the Accord AV7 shares the same chassis as the TL.

I wonder if the Neuspeed Front upper tie bar for the Accord 03 and up will fit on the TL.

Part #: 35.20.58



Does anyone have any input on this topic? Own an Accord? Thanks guys.

 

The TL comes with a front upper tie bar from the factory

 

You're absolutely correct!

However, I have the EDFC motors installed on the front struts. In order to have them installed the strut bar had to be cut.

 

So you are running with no upper strut support? Or did you just knotch it? Cause there is a reason they put these things in there.....thats pretty wild man!

 

I would like to know too....

 

Here is a picture with an EDFC motor installed on top of the TL's front strut.

 

thats the only reason i didnt buy the EDFC yet because i was scared to cut the strut bar....i too would like to know if the neuspeed strut bar will work...also looking at ACCURATEin work with the original sway bar and the EDFC, it doesnt look to hard...i think i might try to cut the original strut bar


Travis

 

Sure looks like it would. Wow...you did have to notch that thing out didnt you!

 

what does the EDFC do? price?

 

EDFC allows you to adjust the damping force on some TEIN suspensions from the interior of the car. I have it installed too. I'm driving without the front strut at this point. It really doesn't make much of a difference, if any.

 

The EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) allows the driver to adjust the damping or how hard or soft the ride is from inside the cabin. It features a control module that is wired to four motors that sit on top of each strut.

The problem with the UA6 TL is the stock strut bar covers the top of the front struts. This doesn't allow the motors to be easily installed.

I believe JDM5lughatch has discovered something relatively monumental for all the EDFC customers.

The Greddy or GREX strut bar for the 03-Accord might be an option.

I'm about to order one to find out.

 

i bought the EDFC and im about to cut the strut bar like you did ACCURATEin...but keeep us informed about the greddy strut bar, if it fits or not. Thanks

Travis

 

you know what... My buddy has a accord, I will see if i can swap my tie bar with his and see if it fits... if it does fit then there should be no reason why the Neuspeed Front upper tie bar shouldn't fit.

Good find Eric...

 

hey man, i just ordered the grex strut bar..

 

Let me know how it comes out? Interested.

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=116320&page=2

Read pages 2 and 3 to see the difference between the Accord and TL suspension.

 

Perfect! Just what I was looking for! Thanks! (BTW...cleared PM's)
Note...just so I understand you right though...the Grex bar will NOT work for the TL's and the Neuspeed one will? And do you think there would be any advantage whatsoever to swap out the stock one for the Neuspeed one if you dont have clearance issues with Tein or K-Sport given the general "beef" of the stock bar? Or would getting rid of the weight and bling factor be about it there, given I dont have adjustable suspension....what do you think?

 

Right off the shelf you are correct. If you wanna drill another hole to make it 7 (holes total) into your strut tower then the greddy/grex bar will work. However then you are gonna need the accord top hats. If you use the greddy/grex bar now you wont get enough rigidity out of the bar because of only one bolt on each side to hold it down. The neuspeed bar is better because it fits with tension. This makes it slightly better than even the stock bar. Have you ever taken your stock bar off and looked at it? Well it's a great design up until they gave it elongated holes to make it easier to get on and off. So technically the stock bar could still shift side-to-side on you because of that. There is also debate if bars like the greddy/grex (really a cusco since the last time I checked cusco was imported by greddy) are even ridgid because of the way they are designed with a bolt at each corner. I however could always tell the difference between a car with and without a front strut bar especially if the car has one and then you take it off. The car just drives sloppy. If you are looking for the better bar right now I would say either stick with stock or get the Neuspeed. I can't gaurantee that the accord bar will fit but technically it should.

 

Thats what I was wondering...between stock and Neuspeed. Wasnt aware that it would fit and was wondering if it would be better than the stock one or what the advantage would be. Ya...I hear you about driving with and without one...you sure can tell the difference! Thats one of the first things I look for is front and rear strut bars to add to the car. I wonder if there is a rear bar that will fit our car anywhere?

So...you say the front OEM bar has elongated holes...that would make the neuspeed unit better than stock...if the holes were more exact anyway? I may consider swapping this out for the Neuspeed unit then? Sounds like an easy Friday night swap out....

 

Oh definitely the neuspeed is gonna be better. It's a pain in the ass to put those bars in and it takes some elbow grease usually. They are solid steel and they are strong you litterally have to muscle them into place. I had one on my '98 VW Golf GTi VR6 and it's definitely worth the money. I just dont wanna gamble on wether it will or won't fit. So in the meantime someone else can be the guinea pig.

 

reason the grex is is appealing is to fit the edfc.. that was the point this thread was started.. to discuss what will fit with the edfc

 

GREX strut bar:
-3 Piece design
-Compatibility with EDFC
-Resembles Cusco version
-Will require a few modifications to fit


Neuspeed strut bar:
-One piece design
-Possibly increased rigidity
-Looks pretty cool haha
-Utilizes 2 of the 3 strut studs
-No modification to fit

 

First off go read the thread title and the opening post. Does it say anything about EDFC? Reading comprehension much? This thread was started to give people an altenative to the factory bar. Now since I am the one who posted a lot of the findings and have been talking with ACCURATEin I know why he was looking for an alternative. However, this doesn't only appeal to those with EDFC but it appeals to those that have another brand of coilovers (like myself), those that want to add a bit more ridgidity to their car over the factory bar (auto-x or FATT guys), and or even to those people that just want to dress-up their engine bays a bit more.

 

no need to get personal tough guy

 

Think what you want. I'm just trying to get you to see that this thread is more than just about an EDFC. That and the fact that your statement took this thread off track.

 

Why does everything end up like this here...

JDM5lughatch and Accuratein...thanks for the great information on fitment issues for this mod as it pertains to the 3G TL. It was very much appreciated!

 

No doubt man! I enjoy helpin others out.

With a combined effort, we can put something together and make things work.

Unfortunately, this is the route we as TL owners have to go in order to make it possible.

I went to the Honda dealership today and the accord top hats are about $12 each.

I popped the hood on the V6 accord in the showroom and looked at the suspension. I'm pretty confident this idea will work.

 

which idea are you talking about?

 

but it happens on every board. I honestly think a lot of it has to due with reading comprehension. That's just my though.

No problem man. Like I always say "That's why we're all here so that we can share info with others and obviously our love for cars". We can all learn from some of these threads and obviously what others post. It's definitely a team effort when it comes to the TL because of the lack of aftermarket support.

 

Here is a look an EDFC motor installed with the OEM strut bar in place.

The blue circles indicates which studs the GREX bar should line up with.

The yellow circles indicates which studs the Neuspeed bar should line up with.

 

That helps a lot too....thats where I was thinking the extra hole would have to be drilled. Thanks for the extra clarification there...that helps a lot! Given I dont have an issue with the suspension though...and it would clearly be just for bling factor in my case (unless I upgraded suspension later) as I have no clearance issues....I am wondering if the Neuspeed bar is any better than the stock one as the stocker seems so beefy by nature in comparison to the the Neuspeed unit. Obviously this would be great given a choice of no bar at all like the one guy was running...but given the stock is so big....in my case, do you think I would get any benefit at all from the neuspeed unit or might it actually be less than stock? (comparing sizes--although this is hollow and the other is solid I am sure)

 

the a hole also have to be drilled into the top hat? how exactly would this work..

 

You go to the dealership and buy 2 new 03+ Accord front top hats. Take them and mark the whole from the underside of the strut tower and drill a hole. May want to just drill a pilot hole and then enlarge the hole from the top using a bigger drill bit. This will give you a cleaner hole. Then I highly suggest that you put some touchup paint onto that hole and maybe even a light coating of silicone caulk. Otherwise you are gonna have some rust that will start to form over the next few years.

 

awesome info thanks.. so the accord top hats line up with most of the holes already there on our Tl's? i just want to get it straight.. thanks

 

They should but I am not 100% positive that they will. Click on the link I posted on the first page. From there that should give you a better idea.

 

thanks looks like it will fit.. for 24$ it's worth a shot..

 

I can't wait to find out if that GREX bar lines up with that stud.

Did you tinker with the GREX bar today bklynpanman?

You're gonna make me beg for pictures! j/k but i will sleep better if i knew whether or not this idea can be a reality.

 

i'm am going to try it out for sure today.. i ordered the accord top hats.. hope those things line up good.. then we'd be set.. i love the bar though so i'd be upset if it didn't work out.. i'll let you know

 

Awesome I cant wait to find out for sure.

How much did you get the bar for?

Does it have GREDDY or GREX engraved?

 

130 i think.. it has GREDDY engraved.. it's such a nice piece, I hope it works out..

it's nice that it's adjustable... although if not tightened properly that could reduce the stability..