Add resonator or replace stock resonator?
#1
Add resonator or replace stock resonator?
I've recently installed the RV6 V3 PCD's and j-pipe. With the stock exhaust on my 2007 TL-S I get some rasp from around 3-4k rpm. Can I add another resonator in addition to the stock one to eliminate the rasp or should I replace the stock one with something bigger? Also, is a 4" diameter the max size that will fit on a 3G or would a 5" fit? Thanks.
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Blakep93 (04-25-2021)
#2
keep the stock one and add an 18 inch resonator after.
ya know how I learned that?
from this thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/taming-beast-pcd-rasp-videos-posted-787693/
ya know how I learned that?
from this thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/taming-beast-pcd-rasp-videos-posted-787693/
#4
keep the stock one and add an 18 inch resonator after.
ya know how I learned that?
from this thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787693
ya know how I learned that?
from this thread....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787693
#5
i was just going to ask the same question i am running rv6-v3 with pcd's and i hate the rasp i have the mid muffler delete and the magnafolw resonator, should i just add another resonator to the exahaust and if so which one do you think i should go with?
#6
Interesting read but it doesn't answer the diameter question. Everyone just says "added a resonator" with only one part number given and no follow up as to whether it was tried and if there was any interference. It seems that the larger the resonator, diameter and housing length, the better but it would be nice to know how large of a diameter resonator will fit without hitting heat shields. It would also be nice to know how long of a resonator will fit downstream of the stock resonator. I live out in the sticks so the local exhaust shops don't stock stainless resonators which means I have to special order whatever I choose. Basically I get one shot at getting this right or have to eat the cost of my mistakes.
Here are some resonators I found.
14"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10416/10002/-1
18"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10426/10002/-1
22"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10436/10002/-1
14"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10416/10002/-1
18"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10426/10002/-1
22"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10436/10002/-1
and before you ask about the diameter, did you click these links?
if you have you would have saw this:
If you go with a straight thru Magnaflow, you will not lose any power. I have the PCDs, RV6 V1 Jpipe, and a custom 3" exhaust with a Magnaflow 12641 (30" body) running to NO MUFFLERS and there is ZERO rasp. It's all in the resonator. I am getting my Dynomax Ultra Flows put on soon, which I'm really excited about. It's very loud right now, especially in the car since I'm running open Ypipe, which is right under the back seat.
A 14" resonator is most likely going to be too small. I'd suggest getting a 20" or larger with the PCDs.
A 14" resonator is most likely going to be too small. I'd suggest getting a 20" or larger with the PCDs.
Here's the bottom line:
If you don't want rasp with the PCDs, you need an extra resonator. Depending on which catback you go with, I'd suggest between a 14" (body) and 30" (body). Any of the straight thru Magnaflow mufflers between 14" - 30" would be a good choice. Like I said, I am running 3 inch piping from the test pipe back with a 30" body Magnaflow and I have no rasp. And that is without mufflers!! I have a video in this section (although I have an Accord 6MT). The sound is very similar to what a TL would sound like with the same mods, being that the motors are almost identical.
With that said, you will not lose performance with the straight thru mufflers because, well, they are straight thru. You will lose some steam with the baffled mufflers, but not with the straight thru design. Magnaflow has both the XL Turbo (baffled) and straight thru designs. Choose wisely. The straight thru mufflers are also quieter; a statement which came directly from Magnaflow himself
Don't be a fool, straight thru is cool
If you don't want rasp with the PCDs, you need an extra resonator. Depending on which catback you go with, I'd suggest between a 14" (body) and 30" (body). Any of the straight thru Magnaflow mufflers between 14" - 30" would be a good choice. Like I said, I am running 3 inch piping from the test pipe back with a 30" body Magnaflow and I have no rasp. And that is without mufflers!! I have a video in this section (although I have an Accord 6MT). The sound is very similar to what a TL would sound like with the same mods, being that the motors are almost identical.
With that said, you will not lose performance with the straight thru mufflers because, well, they are straight thru. You will lose some steam with the baffled mufflers, but not with the straight thru design. Magnaflow has both the XL Turbo (baffled) and straight thru designs. Choose wisely. The straight thru mufflers are also quieter; a statement which came directly from Magnaflow himself
Don't be a fool, straight thru is cool
Last edited by justnspace; 06-07-2011 at 05:51 PM.
#7
as you can run the resonators in series.
try out a long resonator.
if that doesnt muffle the sound to your liking add another.
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#9
yea i was thinking about keeping my 14'' magnaflow and maybe just adding my stock one to it, but also like you said about wating till you get a catback exhaust because i mite do that and just get a res cat back and just add my mag to that one.....ill have to try something but i am one that hates rasp but i love the power gains
#10
The factory resonator is a 4" diameter so everyone just runs a 4" aftermarket one. I guess nobody has tried a 5".
Is there such a thing as too much resonator? I had asked this in a different thread and nobody had an answer from experience, just guesses. I read on a different forum that too much resonator will take you from rasp, right through the sweet spot, and into drone. Is that true? My fear is that since I only have rasp from around 3200-4000 rpm that I'll wind up doing more harm than good if I put in too big of a resonator. I had my local shop put my car on the lift so I could get some measurements tonight. The stock resonator is roughly 18". It looks like there's just enough room for an 18" resonator just forward of the factory one. If we cut the factory one out there's room for one huge resonator (30"+) or we could move the factory resonator back a bit and fit in a 22" resonator upstream of it. If there's actually such a thing as too much resonator then the best bet might be to remove the stock one and upgrade to a Magnaflow 22". Decisions, decisions.
Is there such a thing as too much resonator? I had asked this in a different thread and nobody had an answer from experience, just guesses. I read on a different forum that too much resonator will take you from rasp, right through the sweet spot, and into drone. Is that true? My fear is that since I only have rasp from around 3200-4000 rpm that I'll wind up doing more harm than good if I put in too big of a resonator. I had my local shop put my car on the lift so I could get some measurements tonight. The stock resonator is roughly 18". It looks like there's just enough room for an 18" resonator just forward of the factory one. If we cut the factory one out there's room for one huge resonator (30"+) or we could move the factory resonator back a bit and fit in a 22" resonator upstream of it. If there's actually such a thing as too much resonator then the best bet might be to remove the stock one and upgrade to a Magnaflow 22". Decisions, decisions.
#11
^its all trial and error.
in the thread I posted, they kept the stock and added an 18 inch res.
again, trial and error.
honestly, you guys are making it harder than what it really is.
PM Sonnick, He can help you. so can turbonut, opel, etc.
in the thread I posted, they kept the stock and added an 18 inch res.
again, trial and error.
honestly, you guys are making it harder than what it really is.
PM Sonnick, He can help you. so can turbonut, opel, etc.
#12
18" magnaflow is fine. it will fit perfectly on your exhaust. that's what i used and i'm very happy with it.
magnaflow#10426.
here's a link. send the seller a BIN offer of $59.99 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...Q5fAccessories
magnaflow#10426.
here's a link. send the seller a BIN offer of $59.99 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...Q5fAccessories
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justnspace (06-08-2011)
#15
#18
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787693
it states that the stock midmuffler is retained while adding an 18 inch resonator.
really, how hard is this?
Richie recommended the magnaflow #10426.
Sharksbreath recommended the magnaflow #10426
Originally Posted by sharksbreath
18" magnaflow is fine. it will fit perfectly on your exhaust. that's what i used and i'm very happy with it.
magnaflow#10426.
here's a link. send the seller a BIN offer of $59.99 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...Q5fAccessories
magnaflow#10426.
here's a link. send the seller a BIN offer of $59.99 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...Q5fAccessories
Originally Posted by Richie v6
Here are some resonators I found.
14"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10416/10002/-1
18"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10426/10002/-1
22"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10436/10002/-1
14"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10416/10002/-1
18"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10426/10002/-1
22"
http://www.jegs.com/i/Magnaflow/642/10436/10002/-1
Originally Posted by Richie v6
I am pretty sure you run the stock and the new one together.
Originally Posted by KN_TL
Yeah, you can run as many as you want. The only problem is that there is only so much tunnel space so that will restrict the amount.
The rasp won't get worse than it is now by adding a resonator or muffler. If you order a muffler, it will muffle the sound more than a resonator. Resonators are tuned devices based on frequencies so the sound may change. I am trying 2 resonators right now but I may end up replacing one with a muffler.
It's all trial and error.
The rasp won't get worse than it is now by adding a resonator or muffler. If you order a muffler, it will muffle the sound more than a resonator. Resonators are tuned devices based on frequencies so the sound may change. I am trying 2 resonators right now but I may end up replacing one with a muffler.
It's all trial and error.
Originally Posted by Sonnick
If you go with a straight thru Magnaflow, you will not lose any power. I have the PCDs, RV6 V1 Jpipe, and a custom 3" exhaust with a Magnaflow 12641 (30" body) running to NO MUFFLERS and there is ZERO rasp. It's all in the resonator. I am getting my Dynomax Ultra Flows put on soon, which I'm really excited about. It's very loud right now, especially in the car since I'm running open Ypipe, which is right under the back seat.
A 14" resonator is most likely going to be too small. I'd suggest getting a 20" or larger with the PCDs.
A 14" resonator is most likely going to be too small. I'd suggest getting a 20" or larger with the PCDs.
Originally Posted by Sonnick
Here's the bottom line:
If you don't want rasp with the PCDs, you need an extra resonator. Depending on which catback you go with, I'd suggest between a 14" (body) and 30" (body). Any of the straight thru Magnaflow mufflers between 14" - 30" would be a good choice. Like I said, I am running 3 inch piping from the test pipe back with a 30" body Magnaflow and I have no rasp. And that is without mufflers!! I have a video in this section (although I have an Accord 6MT). The sound is very similar to what a TL would sound like with the same mods, being that the motors are almost identical.
With that said, you will not lose performance with the straight thru mufflers because, well, they are straight thru. You will lose some steam with the baffled mufflers, but not with the straight thru design. Magnaflow has both the XL Turbo (baffled) and straight thru designs. Choose wisely. The straight thru mufflers are also quieter; a statement which came directly from Magnaflow himself
Don't be a fool, straight thru is cool
If you don't want rasp with the PCDs, you need an extra resonator. Depending on which catback you go with, I'd suggest between a 14" (body) and 30" (body). Any of the straight thru Magnaflow mufflers between 14" - 30" would be a good choice. Like I said, I am running 3 inch piping from the test pipe back with a 30" body Magnaflow and I have no rasp. And that is without mufflers!! I have a video in this section (although I have an Accord 6MT). The sound is very similar to what a TL would sound like with the same mods, being that the motors are almost identical.
With that said, you will not lose performance with the straight thru mufflers because, well, they are straight thru. You will lose some steam with the baffled mufflers, but not with the straight thru design. Magnaflow has both the XL Turbo (baffled) and straight thru designs. Choose wisely. The straight thru mufflers are also quieter; a statement which came directly from Magnaflow himself
Don't be a fool, straight thru is cool
Originally Posted by blacktsx05
got the resonator installed today and all i can say is SEXY.....i love the exhaust note now. 95% of the rasp is gone it sounds soo good more throatier
i made a clip today when i was at work ill get it uploaded tonight
all i can say is rv6 v3 j pipe+rv6 v2 PCD+magnaflow res+stock exhaust = sexy ass exhaust note
i made a clip today when i was at work ill get it uploaded tonight
all i can say is rv6 v3 j pipe+rv6 v2 PCD+magnaflow res+stock exhaust = sexy ass exhaust note
Last edited by justnspace; 06-08-2011 at 06:21 PM.
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stvtec (06-10-2011)
#19
This is why removing the mid-muffler is a cheap and worthless mod.
it might sound cool, but if you EVER decide to upgrade to PCD's or Jpipe, RASP city!
I am against doing the stage mods....dont do that stupid gay shit.
it might sound cool, but if you EVER decide to upgrade to PCD's or Jpipe, RASP city!
I am against doing the stage mods....dont do that stupid gay shit.
#20
I have the same problem unfortunately... I did remove the mid muffler and have it in my garage but dont have the heat shiled anymore. My setup V3 PCD-V3Jpipe-midmuffler delete- stock exhaust.
What should i do to get rid of the rasp, put that recommended resonator in place where the mid muffler was, can it even fit....
just wondering....
What should i do to get rid of the rasp, put that recommended resonator in place where the mid muffler was, can it even fit....
just wondering....
#22
bukva, if you add 2 rubber duckies in place of the midmuffler, you'll get a quacking sound.
better yet, add some pizza with bacon.
you know what would make your car sound super sexy?
grab some whistles and line them up in series inside the exhaust piping.
as you accelerate, you'll hear all the whistles!
you will now be known as bukvathewhistleguy.
better yet, add some pizza with bacon.
you know what would make your car sound super sexy?
grab some whistles and line them up in series inside the exhaust piping.
as you accelerate, you'll hear all the whistles!
you will now be known as bukvathewhistleguy.
Last edited by justnspace; 06-09-2011 at 12:20 AM.
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jrleclerc88 (10-29-2013)
#24
I contacted Magnaflow and here's what they had to say:
JP,
Since the resonator is a secondary muffler the larger the muffler the quieter the system will tone down. As far as to much resonator, it is a subjective. To much resonator may quiet the system down to much for you. The difference if you went with the 22” resonator would be a lot different because the mufflers is bigger. The rule of thumb is the larger the body of the muffler the quieter it is.
Thank you,
Shawn Bell
949-858-5900 Ext. 1185
Based on this reply the only downside to adding a lager resonator is a quieter exhaust so the larger the better as long as we don't mind less exhaust noise. I'll probably go with an 18" and let everyone know how it works out.
JP,
Since the resonator is a secondary muffler the larger the muffler the quieter the system will tone down. As far as to much resonator, it is a subjective. To much resonator may quiet the system down to much for you. The difference if you went with the 22” resonator would be a lot different because the mufflers is bigger. The rule of thumb is the larger the body of the muffler the quieter it is.
Thank you,
Shawn Bell
949-858-5900 Ext. 1185
Based on this reply the only downside to adding a lager resonator is a quieter exhaust so the larger the better as long as we don't mind less exhaust noise. I'll probably go with an 18" and let everyone know how it works out.
#29
Yes, install an additional resonator in front of your stock one. My exhaust shop suggested moving the stock on back so that it's just in front of the bend and then adding an additional resonator. Or, if your welder is good they could just leave the stock resonator where it is and add an 18" resonator right between the stock resonator and the flange connecting to the third cat (or where the third cat used to be )
#34
for the love of god, just get the 18" one.
what is there to debate? the larger the resonator, the smaller amount of rasp.
what if you get the 14" one and you still have a bunch of rasp?
just get the 18" and you'll be cherry.
what is there to debate? the larger the resonator, the smaller amount of rasp.
what if you get the 14" one and you still have a bunch of rasp?
just get the 18" and you'll be cherry.
#37
i have 0 rasp now; and PCD's are sitting in my room waiting to be installed car is in body shop probably getting it on monday installing then... just for the record i have RV6 V1 j~pipe; 3rd cat delete and no mid muffler... so im pretty sure ill have some rasp once PCD's are installed... but every time i ask everyone seems to answer everything else but the question of will adding a second resonator take away any HP if so probably 1~2 right nothing significant?...
#39
just added my stock res back on inline with the magnaflow res and well it def took away that horrible rasp but it really quieted it down a little too much i wish i could have a little more growl but as for messing around with the exhaust im done putting money in messing around with the tone and just gonna wait till i can put some money aside for the true dual exhaust.......this stinks
#40
just added my stock res back on inline with the magnaflow res and well it def took away that horrible rasp but it really quieted it down a little too much i wish i could have a little more growl but as for messing around with the exhaust im done putting money in messing around with the tone and just gonna wait till i can put some money aside for the true dual exhaust.......this stinks
do you have the mid muffler delete?... im assuming if you dont it might help (can someone confirm)at most another $50 mine was free and other shops told me $35...