3G3.2TL to a 3.5TL Is possible??

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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3G3.2TL to a 3.5TL Is possible??

Just have a stupid though! a lot civic(EK & EG) was B16 motor and they change it to B20C motor(CR-V's 2.0 block), so i was worried is possible a TL J32 motor can change it to a RL or other HOnda/Acura J35 motor's block so make the TL to 3.5liter??s2k F20 to F22 ,(DC5) K20 to K23 so i really want to know can our's 3G TL do that too??
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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dude wtf u talkin
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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dude wtf u talkin
um....donno how to explain it, maybe u r very comfusing ,cuz i don really know how they do it too,some Japanese tuner will use a old 2.0L CRV's engine block and swap it to a Civic, so make the civic 1.6L engine(B16C) become a 2.0L(B20C which is tuned) cuz they both are B series motor so TL and RL both are J series motor, but TL is 3.2 and RL is 3.5(i think u know it already)so my Q is about can a RL engine block swap it to TL motor on it so make the TL become to 3.5L?? sorry for the misunderstanding, if u still donno im talking about than i mgiht ask a wrong person
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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People have done it on the 2G TL, and I'm definitely doing it, as soon as I can locate an engine.

As for the possibility in the 3G, I don't think it has been done. Seeing as how the J32A2 and J32A3 are very similar engines, the same principles could work, but you would have to be the guinea pig.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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ok i deciphered your broken english (holy crap). I do not see the worth in swapping since the RL has about 30 more HP than the TL. Just buy the comptech supercharger when it comes out. It will be alot less expensive and you wont have to worry about someone destroying your engine, or having to get your computers reconfigured, etc.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
ok i deciphered your broken english (holy crap). I do not see the worth in swapping since the RL has about 30 more HP than the TL. Just buy the comptech supercharger when it comes out. It will be alot less expensive and you wont have to worry about someone destroying your engine, or having to get your computers reconfigured, etc.

WTF are you talking about? You think 30 hp increase is nothing? The S/C will be a lot less expensive? Have you priced out the 3.5 upgrade? It's right in that ballpark $4K - $5K.

Computers reconfigured Maybe you should sit back and listen.

I would take the 3.5 upgrade over the S/C any day of the week.

Remember there is no replacement for displacement.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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^ With all due respect, I don't think it is worth it. All the engineering and the effort put into it, for the same or better results with an SC. The SC (if it will ever come out) is designed for the TL. The RL's engine wasn't.

I know Type R on the CL forums has done the swap on his CL, and definitely more power to him. I just think the all motor approach is much more difficult than a carefully planned forced induction route. Or maybe I'm just lazy...
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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WTF are you talking about? You think 30 hp increase is nothing? The S/C will be a lot less expensive? Have you priced out the 3.5 upgrade? It's right in that ballpark $4K - $5K.

Computers reconfigured Maybe you should sit back and listen.

I would take the 3.5 upgrade over the S/C any day of the week.

Remember there is no replacement for displacement.
ofcuz S/C is cheaper than a 3.5upgarde(and faster)im just worried is possilbe or not?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
ok i deciphered your broken english (holy crap). I do not see the worth in swapping since the RL has about 30 more HP than the TL. Just buy the comptech supercharger when it comes out. It will be alot less expensive and you wont have to worry about someone destroying your engine, or having to get your computers reconfigured, etc.
His English wasn't too bad. Maybe you need to take a reading comprehension class.

The 3.5L upgrade is definitely worth the money. You're just denying to see the benefits, because it seems more difficult than simply slapping on a supercharger.

I'll take all motor power over forced induction any day of the week. But of course, both would be very nice, and that's what I'm going for. I'm doing the 3.5L block upgrade as soon as I can locate an engine then going with the supercharger. I found a J35 not too long ago, but it was an A7 and didn't work with the J32A2.

If you can find a good engine in a junk car, then it would cost A LOT less. Even if you bought all the internal components brand new, it would still be less than a supercharger. There's no need to worry about "someone destroying your engine" because the risks involved aren't any greater than a supercharger. As for having the computers reconfigured, what are you talking about? If anything, there's more tuning involved with the supercharger than with the block upgrade.

Block upgrade > supercharger

Block upgrade + supercharger = awesome
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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I'd love to drop the new RL engine into the TL, if I could figure out a way to fit SW-AWD in there
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
His English wasn't too bad. Maybe you need to take a reading comprehension class.

The 3.5L upgrade is definitely worth the money. You're just denying to see the benefits, because it seems more difficult than simply slapping on a supercharger.

I'll take all motor power over forced induction any day of the week. But of course, both would be very nice, and that's what I'm going for. I'm doing the 3.5L block upgrade as soon as I can locate an engine then going with the supercharger. I found a J35 not too long ago, but it was an A7 and didn't work with the J32A2.

If you can find a good engine in a junk car, then it would cost A LOT less. Even if you bought all the internal components brand new, it would still be less than a supercharger. There's no need to worry about "someone destroying your engine" because the risks involved aren't any greater than a supercharger. As for having the computers reconfigured, what are you talking about? If anything, there's more tuning involved with the supercharger than with the block upgrade.

Block upgrade > supercharger

Block upgrade + supercharger = awesome
so 3G TL is J32A3??what should i find the engine do i have to find like a J35A3??
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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im not sure if its j35a3, they usually go by the models that have the same motor beforehand.
i dont remember how many versions of the 3.5 there was, but im assuming that this is the second. so if im correct j35a2

im in the process of planning a swap for my civic hatch, just got a fresh paintjob on it. but i might just go force induction because of bolt on simplicity
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cliff
im not sure if its j35a3, they usually go by the models that have the same motor beforehand.
i dont remember how many versions of the 3.5 there was, but im assuming that this is the second. so if im correct j35a2

im in the process of planning a swap for my civic hatch, just got a fresh paintjob on it. but i might just go force induction because of bolt on simplicity
MDX, Pilot, Odyssey, RL and other models all use the J35-series engines. Thus, we're up to J35A8 in the new RL right now.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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MDX, Pilot, Odyssey, RL and other models all use the J35-series engines. Thus, we're up to J35A8 in the new RL right now.
so i have to find a J35A3motor to fit my TL or the RL J35A8 is find??or other J serice
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KenUA6
so i have to find a J35A3motor to fit my TL or the RL J35A8 is find??or other J serice
I'm purely guessing here, since I don't know for sure (I don't think anybody has done it in the 3G TL yet), but I would say that the A3 or A4 engine components would work in the J32A3, as well, just like in the J32A2. And the J35A8 RL pistons would work, too.

J35 engines have the same bore as the J32 engines, but longer stroke. That's where the power increase comes from. But you also need to make sure that the crankshaft would swap right in, along with the connecting rods, and the pistons are the right kind. The piston tops have to have the right size slots for the valves; otherwise the valves would hit the pistons and it's bye-bye engine.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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I'm purely guessing here, since I don't know for sure (I don't think anybody has done it in the 3G TL yet), but I would say that the A3 or A4 engine components would work in the J32A3, as well, just like in the J32A2. And the J35A8 RL pistons would work, too.

J35 engines have the same bore as the J32 engines, but longer stroke. That's where the power increase comes from. But you also need to make sure that the crankshaft would swap right in, along with the connecting rods, and the pistons are the right kind. The piston tops have to have the right size slots for the valves; otherwise the valves would hit the pistons and it's bye-bye engine.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Seems like there is a big hype with this mod after fellow 6th gen accords did it, and ever since i posted about doing mine. I don't know much about your head and what J series blocks would be compatible with it, but all that just takes time and research to find out. Worst case scenario, you could use your TL pistons (if they fit right in) with whatever block you choose so that you still have valve clearance. It's just knowing where to look for the parts that would determine if this will be an expensive project, or not. It's all about doing your homework. Read up on v6performance.net about J35 swaps.
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