2005 Acura TL - Before/After PCD V3
#1
2005 Acura TL - Before/After PCD V3
Hi Acurazine,
Just wanted to post up a dyno of b4/after ( about 3hrs )
Car:
2005 Acura TL 6spd
Mods:
Aem Cold Air Intake
*** RV6 V3 Pcd's ***
Please Note : I do appologize that the tq was not recorded.
And I will be doing a b4/After with a RV6 V3 jpipe soon !
Driving Impressions:
There are a LOT of people complaining about "noise"/smell". First of all there is NO smell in the cabin !
Windows down driving cruising everything is NORMAL.
Sound? I like the sound the PCD's have given.
My TL has Aem intake, PCD's and I removed the resonator.
Sounds kinda like a g35 ( just more quiet )
The performance is REALLY NICE !!!
You don't have to drive in such high RPM's anymore.
The TL is much more FREE.
Conclusion:
If you want to enjoy driving your TL again, I HIGHLY SUPPORT DOING THIS MOD !!! WOW
Just wanted to post up a dyno of b4/after ( about 3hrs )
Car:
2005 Acura TL 6spd
Mods:
Aem Cold Air Intake
*** RV6 V3 Pcd's ***
Please Note : I do appologize that the tq was not recorded.
And I will be doing a b4/After with a RV6 V3 jpipe soon !
Driving Impressions:
There are a LOT of people complaining about "noise"/smell". First of all there is NO smell in the cabin !
Windows down driving cruising everything is NORMAL.
Sound? I like the sound the PCD's have given.
My TL has Aem intake, PCD's and I removed the resonator.
Sounds kinda like a g35 ( just more quiet )
The performance is REALLY NICE !!!
You don't have to drive in such high RPM's anymore.
The TL is much more FREE.
Conclusion:
If you want to enjoy driving your TL again, I HIGHLY SUPPORT DOING THIS MOD !!! WOW
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#5
Will you please record some sound clips? I'm on the fence about getting PCDs and would like to know if there is any rasp when paired with the stock exhaust & 3rd cat.
Some WOT runs, revving at idle, some drive-bys, and some in-car cruising would be nice.
Some WOT runs, revving at idle, some drive-bys, and some in-car cruising would be nice.
#6
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^he removed his resonator so it'll sound different than yours.
if you have your stock exhaust, you will experience very little rasp.
if you have your stock exhaust, you will experience very little rasp.
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#12
All motor
Thanks for doing this OP. Great job. Nice gains too!!
I will say this. With our cars, the PCDs/Jpipe make a lot of power especially if they are done first. The stock precats and Jpipe are pretty restrictive and should be one of the first mods. However, the combination of exhaust mods is very important. The PCDs/Jpipe/Catback all need to work in conjunction with each other and feed off each other. PCDs paired with a short primary Jpipe, good collector, and a 3" catback will most likely produce the best peak HP gains. A longer primary Jpipe will most likely lose a couple HP up top, but gain a couple down low as well.
Before making these purchases, you have to ask yourself what you want out of your setup. If you want peak HP gains in the top of the rev range, the RV6 V3 isn't the best choice for you. However, if you want the best low-midrange around town, then the V3 is a great choice.
It takes a lot of time/research to come up with the best setup. And what's 'best' for 1 person may not be best for someone else. So do your research to come up with the best combo for you!
I will say this. With our cars, the PCDs/Jpipe make a lot of power especially if they are done first. The stock precats and Jpipe are pretty restrictive and should be one of the first mods. However, the combination of exhaust mods is very important. The PCDs/Jpipe/Catback all need to work in conjunction with each other and feed off each other. PCDs paired with a short primary Jpipe, good collector, and a 3" catback will most likely produce the best peak HP gains. A longer primary Jpipe will most likely lose a couple HP up top, but gain a couple down low as well.
Before making these purchases, you have to ask yourself what you want out of your setup. If you want peak HP gains in the top of the rev range, the RV6 V3 isn't the best choice for you. However, if you want the best low-midrange around town, then the V3 is a great choice.
It takes a lot of time/research to come up with the best setup. And what's 'best' for 1 person may not be best for someone else. So do your research to come up with the best combo for you!
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Burning Brakes
^^ It would of been a better comparision if it was your car back to back from stock to your aftermarket parts. But I could say it's relatively close estimate.
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ive already installed my mods, and WASNT ABOUT TO TAKE THEM OFF. lol
anyway, since we both ran on the same dyno an hour apart, the graph is a valid comparison.
Justin = Rv6 v3 PCD + RV6 V3 JPipe + 6mt
Emmanual = Stock 6mt
Tonight, i'll be finishing up my PnP manifold install, and then hitting a dyno soon.
after that dyno, I'll be getting the J&R ECU. another dyno to follow.
Last edited by justnspace; 05-16-2012 at 04:37 PM.
#21
All motor
^ Not with the defoulers.
#22
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I have mixed feelings about it.
in the PnP thread, every one Rejoiced and Exclaimed how much harder the car pulls, etc.
at best, the PnP stuffs gained 10hp, certainly NOT enough to feel through the seat of your pants.
am waiting for the ECU then dyno.
I do have defoulers.
at the time of the vid, something must have been tripping the CEL other than the PCDs
Also, even with the defoulers I do have an 02 sensor slow to respond.
this CEL does not show up on the DASH. but, as soon as you hook up an OBDII reader, it will throw the code.
it might be a bad 02 sensor. or wiring.
in the PnP thread, every one Rejoiced and Exclaimed how much harder the car pulls, etc.
at best, the PnP stuffs gained 10hp, certainly NOT enough to feel through the seat of your pants.
am waiting for the ECU then dyno.
I do have defoulers.
at the time of the vid, something must have been tripping the CEL other than the PCDs
Also, even with the defoulers I do have an 02 sensor slow to respond.
this CEL does not show up on the DASH. but, as soon as you hook up an OBDII reader, it will throw the code.
it might be a bad 02 sensor. or wiring.
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I have mixed feelings about it.
in the PnP thread, every one Rejoiced and Exclaimed how much harder the car pulls, etc.
at best, the PnP stuffs gained 10hp, certainly NOT enough to feel through the seat of your pants.
am waiting for the ECU then dyno.
I do have defoulers.
at the time of the vid, something must have been tripping the CEL other than the PCDs
Also, even with the defoulers I do have an 02 sensor slow to respond.
this CEL does not show up on the DASH. but, as soon as you hook up an OBDII reader, it will throw the code.
it might be a bad 02 sensor. or wiring.
in the PnP thread, every one Rejoiced and Exclaimed how much harder the car pulls, etc.
at best, the PnP stuffs gained 10hp, certainly NOT enough to feel through the seat of your pants.
am waiting for the ECU then dyno.
I do have defoulers.
at the time of the vid, something must have been tripping the CEL other than the PCDs
Also, even with the defoulers I do have an 02 sensor slow to respond.
this CEL does not show up on the DASH. but, as soon as you hook up an OBDII reader, it will throw the code.
it might be a bad 02 sensor. or wiring.
#25
AEM intake was a NICE mod.
First mod I would do on a 3G TL, to show what a "proper" intake can provide on it's own.
Here is the thread : https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/aem-intake-dyno-good-gains-798138/
Don't mind all the " trash talk ".
Lastly I will be creating a thread in the next few days :
B4/AFTER RV6 V3 Jpipe
( Also soon to come : b4/after cat-back, crank pulley ..... )
#26
Suzuka Master
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If you're comparing OP's dyno to Justnspace's, you can't expect different dynos to all read the same, even though they're both Dynojets. Besides, OP had a CAI and Justnspace had the oem air box.
#29
I love the gains... Not so much the sound increase .. wonder whats the high flow cats gains are
#30
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the difference between high flow cats and pcds are small.
like a few hp.
the high flow cats SOUND A LOT BETTER than the PCDs. a fully bolted on TL with the HFCs Sounds like an exotic car.
im tempted to say Ferrari sounding
I just added the RV6 TD exhaust.
bored throttle body-->PnP intake manifold-->PCDs -->Jpipe-->RV6 TD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmIUQ...ature=youtu.be
like a few hp.
the high flow cats SOUND A LOT BETTER than the PCDs. a fully bolted on TL with the HFCs Sounds like an exotic car.
im tempted to say Ferrari sounding
I just added the RV6 TD exhaust.
bored throttle body-->PnP intake manifold-->PCDs -->Jpipe-->RV6 TD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmIUQ...ature=youtu.be
#31
I think my only performance mod will be a HFPC.. not a big fan of the hard acceleration sound of these cars.... I heard anthracitecl's exhaust note with rv6 true dual v3 j-pipe n hfpc and i love the regular acceleration sound of it, couldnt really WOT as it was on his custom jackstands lol... But when i watch the vids im just not sold... Im extremely picky with exhausts, sold on type S look, just not the sound
#33
Yea, i just like a smoother sound (if that makes any sense lol).. youre right, def a compromise... Even something similar to my nissan wouldve been nice... But hey, cant always get what you want right?
#34
Burning Brakes
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Im glad this thread got resurrected... I got PCDs with my supercharger kit and Im gonna put em on regardless, I was just hoping it wouldnt be too loud. I also bought a V2 jpipe- If it sounds like Justins car I can live with it I guess. Ill leave the 3rd cat of course, and Ive already put the dynomax resonator in and Im leaving the stock mufflers on, any other way to quiet it down that anyone can think of??? Just a bigger resonator I guess... Thanks for the vids
#35
Suzuka Master
AEM intake was a NICE mod.
First mod I would do on a 3G TL, to show what a "proper" intake can provide on it's own.
Here is the thread : https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798138
Don't mind all the " trash talk ".)
First mod I would do on a 3G TL, to show what a "proper" intake can provide on it's own.
Here is the thread : https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798138
Don't mind all the " trash talk ".)
#36
No, the TRUTH was in the Dyno numbers that are posted in that thread !!!
And I have put on the rv6 v3 j-pipe and since taken it off. I was not too impressed with the quality of the pipe , but mostly it's design / power.
The car lost I believe 6whp & 12wtq. ( peak hp/tq ) but it was good for city driving as it improved the low-mid. But like Sonic Said above : every setup will run differently , and every set up requires a different j-pipe or different exhaust etc......
People have to find what they want to achieve in the end and build accordingly.
#37
Suzuka Master
^^ The dyno numbers lied to you! If you believe you actually received those gains from your CAI your delusional.
#38
Listen pohljm if you want to comment on the cai gains please do so in that thread.
This thread was created for the RV6 v3 PCD's which work well. In addition if you want to comment then please have some data to back up your "opinion". Thats all you have is an opinion , unless you want to spend money on a dyno install a aem cai on the dyno and re dyno like I did. For the record I yjink im the only 1 ? THANKS!
This thread was created for the RV6 v3 PCD's which work well. In addition if you want to comment then please have some data to back up your "opinion". Thats all you have is an opinion , unless you want to spend money on a dyno install a aem cai on the dyno and re dyno like I did. For the record I yjink im the only 1 ? THANKS!
#39
OMG, I put in a new FRAM air filter last week. Off the line acceleration was amazing, so much improved! Everyone should do the Fram filter mod. The old filter was ok looking so it wasn't caked with dirt (you haters), the FRAM filter works!
I think If I took it to a dyno, it will probably show 20HP gain and 17TQ.
I think If I took it to a dyno, it will probably show 20HP gain and 17TQ.