'08 MT TL Type S-New Dyno Results
08-07-2012, 06:38 PM
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dude tell me about it....
I have the slowest car stock....I have a 2005 Base 5AT....they dyno at 210....the Base 6MT dyno's at 220-ish.....
The Type S 5AT dyno at 230-ish and then the Type S 6MT dyno in at 250-ish....
i am fully bolted on and a Type S 6MT with only PCD's will pull on me....
i think i will be happy if i see 270 on the dyno....i should be around 260-265 topppsss.....to break the 300 i have to get cams+ECU+tune....with that i should be around 310-ish....
I have the slowest car stock....I have a 2005 Base 5AT....they dyno at 210....the Base 6MT dyno's at 220-ish.....
The Type S 5AT dyno at 230-ish and then the Type S 6MT dyno in at 250-ish....
i am fully bolted on and a Type S 6MT with only PCD's will pull on me....
i think i will be happy if i see 270 on the dyno....i should be around 260-265 topppsss.....to break the 300 i have to get cams+ECU+tune....with that i should be around 310-ish....
08-07-2012, 10:00 PM
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I couldn't help but to notice that the videos of the integra says jotech performance. Does that mean you are located in the Dallas area? I'm in the south Dallas area and to know that a 300WHP 6mt Type-S exists in the same city as I am is pretty bad ass. If you are in the Dallas area, did you go to CCM14 @ Lincoln Tech last month?
08-08-2012, 08:46 AM
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I couldn't help but to notice that the videos of the integra says jotech performance. Does that mean you are located in the Dallas area? I'm in the south Dallas area and to know that a 300WHP 6mt Type-S exists in the same city as I am is pretty bad ass. If you are in the Dallas area, did you go to CCM14 @ Lincoln Tech last month?
The JoTech in Dallas is JoTech Racing, not JoTech Performance.
08-08-2012, 08:04 PM
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Even if a j pipe brings the whp fairly close, the 6mt will still be quicker due to the 100+ lb weight advantage, overall gearing and slow shifting nature of the 5at. You'll need more bolt ones to keep up. Honda really needs to look into building a performance oriented automatic. That's the direction things are heading and they're severely lagging behind the competition.
BTW, your sig is hilarious!
BTW, your sig is hilarious!
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08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
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^^^ THIS
the only thing is the ECU shifts quicker than a human but the gearing is whack on the AT....yes but HP for HP, a decent 6MT drive will take the 5AT everytime.....
I would love if Honda came out with a 6AT or a 7AT
the only thing is the ECU shifts quicker than a human but the gearing is whack on the AT....yes but HP for HP, a decent 6MT drive will take the 5AT everytime.....
I would love if Honda came out with a 6AT or a 7AT
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08-11-2012, 02:46 PM
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Im very glad to see happy people around here since it seems to inspire a lot of folks. No im not located in the Dallas area bro..sorry...Jo Tech Performance in central Florida.
Sonnick regarding the track? Damn dude Im gonna have to wait till 2 week of october. I am in Afghanistan right now and then heading out to Peru on vacation before going back to the USA for a few days.
All I can promise for now. Is the additional dyno numbers and clips once the car is tuned. Currently CMB Tuning left today to the Dominican Republic to tune a few cars. I say that...In about 2 weeks you can be expecting my TL tuned and hopefully a 320whp ball park.
For those interested in achieving this goal here is the deal. Put all the bolt on parts out there in production. Take note this is a 6 speed tranny and...I don not have the pulley...I think its a waste of time and money for no gains. Once all the bolt ons are installed...You will reach 300whp with the following items. Bored TB matching it to a bigger Intake Manifold opening. Ported and polished lower intake runners and YOU ARE SET...The question is...MEASURMENTS. LMAO...Im not trying to tease or anything...remember all measurments will change according to your current mods. This thing about huge ass 3.7L throttle bodies being bored etc does not work...WAY TOO much air.
I have been trying to document the power made by each mod. The intake runners after port and polished produced 4whp/6wtq. The bored TB produced 9.6whp/11wtq
Sonnick regarding the track? Damn dude Im gonna have to wait till 2 week of october. I am in Afghanistan right now and then heading out to Peru on vacation before going back to the USA for a few days.
All I can promise for now. Is the additional dyno numbers and clips once the car is tuned. Currently CMB Tuning left today to the Dominican Republic to tune a few cars. I say that...In about 2 weeks you can be expecting my TL tuned and hopefully a 320whp ball park.
For those interested in achieving this goal here is the deal. Put all the bolt on parts out there in production. Take note this is a 6 speed tranny and...I don not have the pulley...I think its a waste of time and money for no gains. Once all the bolt ons are installed...You will reach 300whp with the following items. Bored TB matching it to a bigger Intake Manifold opening. Ported and polished lower intake runners and YOU ARE SET...The question is...MEASURMENTS. LMAO...Im not trying to tease or anything...remember all measurments will change according to your current mods. This thing about huge ass 3.7L throttle bodies being bored etc does not work...WAY TOO much air.
I have been trying to document the power made by each mod. The intake runners after port and polished produced 4whp/6wtq. The bored TB produced 9.6whp/11wtq
08-11-2012, 04:08 PM
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Can you share more details on the ported TB? I'm curious what the inlet and outlet measurements are. Right now my mods are CAI, pnp runners, type s cats, rv6 v3 jpipe and stock exhaust. I want to get the 3.7 mani and TB as my next mod and I am not planning on porting it any larger than stock. Do you think this will work well with my set-up? I'm 06 5AT. If you are ever in Tampa, I would love to see your car in person. Thanks for your contributions 
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08-12-2012, 12:33 AM
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Can you share more details on the ported TB? I'm curious what the inlet and outlet measurements are. Right now my mods are CAI, pnp runners, type s cats, rv6 v3 jpipe and stock exhaust. I want to get the 3.7 mani and TB as my next mod and I am not planning on porting it any larger than stock. Do you think this will work well with my set-up? I'm 06 5AT. If you are ever in Tampa, I would love to see your car in person. Thanks for your contributions
the 2012SHAWD TB is 80mm and 70mm....so if you plan to go with the SHAWD Manifold and TB, you will have a bigger opening....
and before getting any intake side mods, i would open up the exhaust....get an exhaust and PCD's....the PCD's are the most power gaining bolt on mod....
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08-12-2012, 12:56 AM
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I actually just removed my PCD's. Loved the extra power but got sick of the smell and the rasp. I replaced them with type s cats as a compromise.
I just installed my pnp runners yesterday and I can feel the difference...I got torque steer in 2nd gear for the first time! I was always under the impression that the more air the better, that's why I am surprised to hear we can lose HP by having a TB which is too large.
I just installed my pnp runners yesterday and I can feel the difference...I got torque steer in 2nd gear for the first time! I was always under the impression that the more air the better, that's why I am surprised to hear we can lose HP by having a TB which is too large.
08-12-2012, 01:04 AM
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^^^ well you need to keep the intake velocity up....a bigger TB will slow down the air....
but you need to have a decent intake setup so you can keep that intake velocity up
but you need to have a decent intake setup so you can keep that intake velocity up
08-12-2012, 03:34 PM
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i think he mentioned it was 72mm and the inlet cannot be bored past 68mm....so am guessing he is around there....
the 2012SHAWD TB is 80mm and 70mm....so if you plan to go with the SHAWD Manifold and TB, you will have a bigger opening....
and before getting any intake side mods, i would open up the exhaust....get an exhaust and PCD's....[b]the PCD's are the most power gaining bolt on mod....[\b]
the 2012SHAWD TB is 80mm and 70mm....so if you plan to go with the SHAWD Manifold and TB, you will have a bigger opening....
and before getting any intake side mods, i would open up the exhaust....get an exhaust and PCD's....[b]the PCD's are the most power gaining bolt on mod....[\b]
08-12-2012, 05:17 PM
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Juam I gotta disagree with you saying the 3.7 manifold/TB setup flows too much air...I gained 5-6whp/tq throughout the powerband and 15whp peak. I'm full bolt on as well and a 3.0. All the J does is breathe. With the right I/E mods the car breathes really well, even on stock cams.
The 3.7 manifold opens has a 76mm throat while my ported stock manifold was 68. The throttle body is much larger too.
I'd love to run ya if we were closer
The 3.7 manifold opens has a 76mm throat while my ported stock manifold was 68. The throttle body is much larger too.
I'd love to run ya if we were closer
08-12-2012, 05:17 PM
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Juam I gotta disagree with you saying the 3.7 manifold/TB setup flows too much air...I gained 5-6whp/tq throughout the powerband and 15whp peak. I'm full bolt on as well and a 3.0. All the J does is breathe. With the right I/E mods the car breathes really well, even on stock cams.
The 3.7 manifold opens has a 76mm throat while my ported stock manifold was 68. The throttle body is much larger too.
I'd love to run ya if we were closer
The 3.7 manifold opens has a 76mm throat while my ported stock manifold was 68. The throttle body is much larger too.
I'd love to run ya if we were closer
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08-13-2012, 03:29 AM
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Sonnick...What I meant was that people think that just by putting a 3.7L manifold and TB or even worse bore the TB of the 3.7L WITHOUT previously having the necessary mods they will loose whp big time...
Common mistake that people tend to do...That is why (as I mentioned before) The specs of a bigger TB matched to a bigger manifold opening must go according to the current mods of your car. Just like you said the J all it does is breathe. Absolutely true on your part...give it air (bigger openings), make sure that used air goes somewhere (well modified exhaust), and you should be fine.
That was the key to make the 303whp. The bore measurements and matching of the intake manifold are a direct result of your current exhaust and intake mods. A little bigger opening in my case and I could probably loose power big time.
Common mistake that people tend to do...That is why (as I mentioned before) The specs of a bigger TB matched to a bigger manifold opening must go according to the current mods of your car. Just like you said the J all it does is breathe. Absolutely true on your part...give it air (bigger openings), make sure that used air goes somewhere (well modified exhaust), and you should be fine.
That was the key to make the 303whp. The bore measurements and matching of the intake manifold are a direct result of your current exhaust and intake mods. A little bigger opening in my case and I could probably loose power big time.
08-13-2012, 08:25 AM
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^ I see what you mean and agree. The proper combination of I/E mods will get you big numbers, but they have to work with each other. Too much air on the intake side isn't going to do much if you can't get it out through the exhaust. I think the 3" exhaust is helping me as well since now I'm sucking in a ton of air. But I still need more lol with a larger intake 
Btw, stay safe out there man.
Btw, stay safe out there man.
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base 6MT dyno's at 215-ish 220 if the dyno is being nice....one thing you have to remember is you cant add HP....so the PCD's giving around 20-ish and the Jpipe giving around 8-10HP, when you do both mods, you will gain around 25-ish....
again this is just a number game....some people see more out of the mods, some see less.....it all depends on what "supporting" mods you have
08-13-2012, 02:55 PM
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Champ, I'm not sure if its possible. Although BLACKURA didn't have a pnp or bored TB and intake.
However, OP is talking up these PCDs like they are aphrodites tits and is really making me want them now. I just shelled out $700 this past two weeks on mods.
Maybe I should make that my goal...to hit 300whp in my type-s.
However, OP is talking up these PCDs like they are aphrodites tits and is really making me want them now. I just shelled out $700 this past two weeks on mods.
Maybe I should make that my goal...to hit 300whp in my type-s.
I am hovering around 290ish whp mark with current tune but keep in mind I have no Intake side modes besides a short ran intake.......
So if I were to get TB's mods, PnP Intake Mani/runners ect... then 300whp is more then attainable....
But yeah at end of the day like ppl been saying you need alot of power out of the 5at to keep up with a 6mt TL-S
just quick example in quarter mile you need at least 280whp to beat a Stock TL-S 6mt in the 1/4 only after that you are toast in top end because 4th gear is that shitty!!!
I will say Nitrous set-up in 4th gear for the autos sound real good
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300whp in a 5at TL-S is very possible with a ECU + TUNE only and fully bolted......
I am hovering around 290ish whp mark with current tune but keep in mind I have no Intake side modes besides a short ran intake.......
So if I were to get TB's mods, PnP Intake Mani/runners ect... then 300whp is more then attainable....
But yeah at end of the day like ppl been saying you need alot of power out of the 5at to keep up with a 6mt TL-S
just quick example in quarter mile you need at least 280whp to beat a Stock TL-S 6mt in the 1/4 only after that you are toast in top end because 4th gear is that shitty!!!
I will say Nitrous set-up in 4th gear for the autos sound real good
I am hovering around 290ish whp mark with current tune but keep in mind I have no Intake side modes besides a short ran intake.......
So if I were to get TB's mods, PnP Intake Mani/runners ect... then 300whp is more then attainable....
But yeah at end of the day like ppl been saying you need alot of power out of the 5at to keep up with a 6mt TL-S
just quick example in quarter mile you need at least 280whp to beat a Stock TL-S 6mt in the 1/4 only after that you are toast in top end because 4th gear is that shitty!!!
I will say Nitrous set-up in 4th gear for the autos sound real good
the TL 6MT makes 298-303 (Andy and Juam) fully bolted on...the 5AT would be around 285-ish fully bolted on....
throw and ECU and tune and boom you are ~310
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08-13-2012, 03:19 PM
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This is a tempting pickup
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/aem-fic-6-harness-865816/#post13971646
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only advantage that the J&R ECU has over the AEM FIC is the ability to advance/retard timing, correct?
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/aem-fic-6-harness-865816/#post13971646
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only advantage that the J&R ECU has over the AEM FIC is the ability to advance/retard timing, correct?
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dew it....
its a stepping stone to JnR ECU....when you are ready for the JnR ECU, sell it and get that
its a stepping stone to JnR ECU....when you are ready for the JnR ECU, sell it and get that
08-13-2012, 03:57 PM
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JnR ECU also has the ablility to Livetune with a wideband set-up but other then that yeah AEM should do the trick
08-13-2012, 04:06 PM
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Boston you need a CAI man! You'd surely be over 290. Your car moves though You and Franchise should do some more runs on video Did he mod at all yet?
You and Franchise should do some more runs on video Did he mod at all yet?
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^^^ Boston, I can agree more with Sonnick....
2012Manifold + TB + a little port and polish + Intake (3.5") = good 10-12 WHP....
your AT will be in the 300's
2012Manifold + TB + a little port and polish + Intake (3.5") = good 10-12 WHP....
your AT will be in the 300's
08-13-2012, 04:21 PM
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I need more then CAI and I am already at or over 290whp with my new tune Rodney had sent me, the 281whp was the last official dyno so after that I got another updated tune which puts me around 290ish and it felt much peppier then the 281whp tune........When I say SRI it is not filter right from TB attachment my filter sits by the Fender and I have a ram set-up getting cold air from the lower side of bumper...it works for now and CAI would not change that much...I did change my filter to an AEM Dryflow as well...but yeah I want to run some soon in the cooler months Sept/October, gotta get in touch with Franchise.
And yeah he got some mods done I believe he got a RV6 Jpipe and AEM CAI(not sure on this one though), but yeah we gotta run again for sure!!! I am expecting same results as before in the low end and Top End a worthless race for me lol
And yeah he got some mods done I believe he got a RV6 Jpipe and AEM CAI(not sure on this one though), but yeah we gotta run again for sure!!! I am expecting same results as before in the low end and Top End a worthless race for me lol
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^^^ fawk u man !!! you can totally be Hazelnut butter....coz am motherfawking jelly !!!
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08-13-2012, 04:44 PM
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that thing is out of this World been best purchase this year by far!!!......I been able to play with some cars but the outcome has not been pretty for the cars lol!!
some kills:
Z06 (I was hoping it was ZR-1)
GTO 5.7 (not even close was playing with it really)
and I almost had the chance to run a Bugatti Veyron but unfortunately I had the day off when it came to my job! I spoke to the guy driving it and he said he would have been more then willing to run short spurts on the highway!!! Oh well next time I guess!!
some kills:
Z06 (I was hoping it was ZR-1)
GTO 5.7 (not even close was playing with it really)
and I almost had the chance to run a Bugatti Veyron but unfortunately I had the day off when it came to my job! I spoke to the guy driving it and he said he would have been more then willing to run short spurts on the highway!!! Oh well next time I guess!!
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^^^ all those kills with the Ducati right??? Damn !!!
08-13-2012, 05:53 PM
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Obviously Ducati..lol man I wish I was killing cars like that with the TL-S....
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^^^ haha yeah...well its good to confirm LOL