hobiescotty

Hi there,

I purchased an 07 TL Type S about 6 months ago want to do some mods to make it faster and more bad-ass. Someone told me there are some simple mods to take the HP +115. Is this correct? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! Scott

ballinfizzle89

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Cold Air Intake
Supercharger
UR Underdrive Pulley
P2R Throttle Body
Outlaw Thermal Body(or whatever theyre called)
Custom Exhaust/Greddy+Comptech Catback
EShift Procats

To name a few...
But I think it's pretty hard to get the TL-S up 115hp. SC'd guys are making around 302whp-320whp.

mishar

Simple math: TLS + Cold Air Intake + Supercharger + UR Underdrive Pulley + P2R Throttle Body + Outlaw Thermal Body + Custom Exhaust/Greddy + Comptech Catback + EShift Procats = 335i. That’s just money wise. Other wise it’s less than that.

stillhere153

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^ you can't add partner

to get the tl-s 115+ at this very moment is not possible... the highest dyno'd TL-S was at 261hp to the wheels...

PS. TLS + No mods (not =) 335i
What I call a BMW - Brim Whim Wack-a-Wack

04accordcpe

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first, go to the person who told you that simple mods will get you 115+ and smack him/her firmly across the forehead.

next, press the little box that says 'search' and that will give you plenty of info on what mods are available for your type-s.

lastly, prey that comptech releases a SC kit for your car, or be the first to adapt a 04-06 kit to a type-s with no major snags and your set.

Bearcat94

If you're talking about TLFourPlay's car, I don't think it's SC'd. Yet.


Regardless, 115+ HP? No way. Well, maybe on the PlaySkool Dyno.

lembowski

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for around 3 grand you can get all the little bolt on extra's that will give you upwards of 60+hp................

mishar

Just in your dreams.

lembowski

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my dreams......what are you talking about exactly?

pro cats $1200 + 25hp
ur pulley $200 + 10hp
exhaust $900 + 10hp
thermo/manifold stuff $120 + 10hp
intake $200 + 10hp

so $2600ish for 65ish hp

mishar

Exactly that. When you wake up it comes to:
pro cats $1200 + 10hp
ur pulley $200 + 0hp
exhaust $900 + 5hp
thermo/manifold stuff $120 + 0hp
intake $200 + 2hp
so $2600ish for 17ish hp
It doesn’t add like that but with some luck it would be somewhere there.

Bearcat94

^^

Only 100 WHP to go.

lembowski

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I would love to see some sources that negate hundreds of dyno's over the years

KN_TL

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I'd like to see those graphs.

I'm with Mishar.

csmeance

fixed^

csmeance

this is with exhaust (comptech and AEM CAI) about 25 HP gain from both:
BASELINE:

AFTER MODS:

csmeance

refer to this thread for the e-shift Pro Cat's
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...5&page=1&pp=25

stillhere153

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There aren't any boltons for the type s that can generate more than 15hp tops

Ps. The procats won't do jack for the type s... the type s cats are already highflow

lembowski

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thanks for the clarification csmeance, on the ur pulley & manifold I was referring to the hp that is freed up by the product......not actually making hp but better utilizing the current hp (which in my opinion is the same thing). And the exhaust was for the greddy numbers of 8 to 10 hp gain.

U4ICTHEORY

just add stickers... everywhere!

you'll get your 100HP easily... just ask some of the fast and furious guys in their civics with shopping cart wings... all they did was add a coffee can in the back of their muffler and tons of stickers... bam!... 100 HP... IT'S THAT EASY!...

Mlauderdale1000rr

mishar

Business of the century! Faulty dyno.

Black_05_TL_6SP

Your right in the fact the Type-S cats are high flow, but not as high flow as the Procats. The gain would not be as great as what I saw putting them on my 05, but there would be some gain. The questions would be is it worth th 10-12hp gain to get the procats for the type-s.

lembowski

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so you say all the products for our cars produce significantly less hp than the manufactures/independent dyno testers have tested at. do you have anything to show proof of your statements? Mostly the pro-cats and intake........

U4ICTHEORY

I know a smog tech in california... he says pro-cats will not pass inspection if done by a good professional... but he also stated that any rookie wouldn't even notice...

is he right?... unfortunately he's a rookie... LOL

I've been doing some reading... without the pictures... and i think the Pro-cats are a good buy... but... according to some people here, the TL-S already has free flowing cats... though not as good as pro-cats... if that is the case... then the extra money you will spend on the pro-cats and install do not justify the extra power you get over stock... also, i highly doubt that everyone is getting 10-12 horses out of the pro-cats (for a TL-S)... somewhere between 6-10 sounds better... i could be wrong... IMO...

csmeance

The 3.2 TL's got about 21 WHP from the pro-cats. THe 3.2 has 1200 density cats, type-s has 600 and the e-shift is 200. There is a gain to be had with on the S, but it would be around 5-10 WHP. As for the cats not passing, it won't pass the visual inspection as the cats can't be replaced before 80K unless it's a bad cat.

mishar

In the world where Acura, and most of the others, used unfair testing to misrepresent power of their engines, where even in the court of the law, under oath, you will get two different expert opinions, you are talking about independent testers and aftermarket manufacturers test results. Is it just another dream?

csmeance

all you say by that is that everyones results will be different correct? well there have been numerous dynos by our own independent members at their own chosen facilities and also by the manufactures. the results of both are very well close to each other, and i doubt that our own members would misrepresent power generated by things that can end up costing a fortune, if anything, members here try to find the truth behind things to see if it's snake oil or not, to help save money and to help others.

mishar

No, that’s not all I say. All I say is that those dyno tests are totally unreliable, that you can go to 10 of them and get 10 different results without touching anything on your car and that everybody can get what he likes as a result. I am positive that when you pay couple of thousands for something you really like that it works and that dyno operators know that disappointing customers is not good way to keep them. You do the math.

csmeance

well, if you look at the graphs I posted, the factors that could change the results were near each other, temperature, humidity, etc. A dyno isn't the best way to see how much exact power you have, but it can give a pretty close range on the power at where the car stands.

U4ICTHEORY

don't know why i'm quoting you... but...

The numbers in magazines/documents/articals/tests (etc)
are usually just averages... IMO

FAST4DR

Why didn't acura just do the 65hp worth of mods stated to the 3.2 and have a 325hp car. No replacement for displacement. That's why acura went to 3.5L The increase in size raises torque(and consequently hp), which makes a difference.

csmeance

AEM cold air intake would cause legal liabilities with hydrolocking. E-Shift Pro cats would remove honda's ULEV emmisions rating. The exhaust was not done because this is supposed to be a luxury car, not more of a sporty car with a drone.

FAST4DR

Good points, but I still don't think that for the money that the bolt on mods are worth it. That's just my opinion. It's not like a diesel truck where you change a few computer settings and bam your 100-200 hp more. These motors are already getting very healthy output for their design while still keeping them civil and driveable. Is there room for improvement? Of course, the factory is always restrained by emissions, sound, driveability, etc. The whole intake thing to me is funny. Is the stock system restrictive, probably, but how much HP is an aftermarket intake unlocking. 4-5 peak hp? Does that make a difference? Not really. Basically it makes it loud and that's what people equate to performance. I like the sound too, but I"m not spending $200 for a piece of pipe and filter.

csmeance

the TL is somewhat of an expensive car to mod, there are much more expensive cars such as the NSX which has a 4000 dollar basic exhaust. As for 200 dollars for a piece of pipe and filter, I can only say that people are willing to spend that because it makes the car faster, which is what they want.

KN_TL

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Some of us also just like to tweak on things. I've done this to all my MX bikes, ATV's, mountain bikes, etc.

I am personally not looking at getting massive amounts of hp since it is a fwd car, but for me, it's a good combination of comfort, performance and fun. And something that can be driven year round up here in the northeast.

Some people will spend $100.00 on a steak dinner, some opt for McDonalds.......