Will this work? Navi System "upgrade" ?
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Will this work? Navi System "upgrade" ?
Soo.. I may be wrong here; but our nav system takes its sweet time loading.. because it's reading of a disc, right?
Here is my idea
Copy navi dvd to compact flash memory
Insert compact flash memory into PCMCIA CF reader
Insert PCMCIA CF reader into nav system
.. bam? Faster nav system?
Has anyone tried this? Does anyone know for certain that this would NOT work?
Here is my idea
Copy navi dvd to compact flash memory
Insert compact flash memory into PCMCIA CF reader
Insert PCMCIA CF reader into nav system
.. bam? Faster nav system?
Has anyone tried this? Does anyone know for certain that this would NOT work?
#3
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I think the navi DVD is on a dual layer disk
, so if you have an 8 GB memory card and a PCMCIA reader you can give it a try.
I have a feeling it won't work since you might have to trigger the system (somehow) to boot to PCMCIA instead of DVD-Rom.
Anyone out there have experience with the PCMCIA slot? I think theres some old threads on here about it.
edit:
Found them.
According to those two threads, the slot has no other use other than to write diagnostic logs to a memory card.
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I have a feeling it won't work since you might have to trigger the system (somehow) to boot to PCMCIA instead of DVD-Rom.
Anyone out there have experience with the PCMCIA slot? I think theres some old threads on here about it.
edit:
Found them.
According to those two threads, the slot has no other use other than to write diagnostic logs to a memory card.
#4
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^ In the nav diag screens you can load software from the pc card; if you re-load your nav disc from the pc card maybe it will attempt to read the same location for map data ?
I might swing by Fry's and test it out if this isn't too expensive.. today the car is going in the shop though! Definately need an 8GB card since the 3.60 software is 6.x GB
I might swing by Fry's and test it out if this isn't too expensive.. today the car is going in the shop though! Definately need an 8GB card since the 3.60 software is 6.x GB
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Originally Posted by TRK9
I noticed the "load from card" button too and was wondering about this...
Hope it works and speeds up the load time.
Hope it works and speeds up the load time.
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#7
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It looks to be integrated already.. when you goto the nav diag screen and hit load from card it gives an error because there is no card connected; I think i'm going to get the stuff and try it in the next few days
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
It looks to be integrated already.. when you goto the nav diag screen and hit load from card it gives an error because there is no card connected; I think i'm going to get the stuff and try it in the next few days
Besides, isn't the firmware loaded from the disk into NVRAM on the nav system anyway? Isn't the existing procedure like this?
1. Insert DVD disc into drive
2. Tell navigation system to load firmware from disc.
3. Navigation system copies firmware from disc into electronic NVRAM in the nav system.
4. When car turns on, nav system loads firmware from NVRAM and doesn't access the disc until it needs road information.
So I don't think what you're trying to do will make any difference. To test my theory, eject the DVD disc from the drive, then turn the car off and back on. If the system still boots, it means that it's not reading the firmware from the disc every time.
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I think the OP is thinking that if he can get the road data onto flash memory that it will be faster than reading it from the DVD (which I would probably agree with). Now will it work... I don't have a clue, but it's worth trying I guess.
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Desert_TL
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
Desert_TL
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
One important note. Made sure the memory card you are getting is not SDHC type sinice our navi system is few years old and I don't think it will support SDHC memory type.
#12
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I'll probably go with compact flash - I believe a "type II" CF card can go up to 8GB; as long as the PCMCIA adapter is allowing direct read/write access without any funny business I think <if it works> it will be ok
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
Desert_TL
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
Correct.. it asks you to insert the disc but I believe the OS loads; I mentioned loading off the PC card because it might be trying to find the map data in the same location the software was installed from.
Kind of like software on a PC; you install from CD - and it runs - but when it requires data or changes it looks to the source of installation..
So i'm hoping one of these conditions is true:
- You reinstall via the DVD; the system loads and checks to see if the required files are located in the PC Card slot or in the DVD drive
- You reinstall via the PC Card; the system saves the install location and looks at the same location to load map data / POIs / etc.
If the above is true, then this might work.. My car should be back from the dealer tomorrow.. I'll try to goto Fry's at lunch and buy a card / reader..
(Also, if this does work - certainly makes navi mods easier - no more burning dvds!)
That's all assuming, of course, that the navi system is capable of loading street data from the memory card at all.
#16
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I went to Fry's.. rather disappointing..
They have the 8GB CF card, but they do not have a PCMCIA card that can read one that big, so I tried.. Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Staples, and Office Depot. nada for PCMCIA CF Readers
I bought one off ebay for $9 on Saturday, hopefully it will be here soon.. then I will get the CF card and go from there
They have the 8GB CF card, but they do not have a PCMCIA card that can read one that big, so I tried.. Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, Staples, and Office Depot. nada for PCMCIA CF Readers
I bought one off ebay for $9 on Saturday, hopefully it will be here soon.. then I will get the CF card and go from there
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#19
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psheu.. if that were possible that would be friggin fantastic; but if that were the case I would think they would still be on Orange DVDs in the 3.x version family.. So unless Acura is saying they aren't compatible to get people to buy new TLs there's probably a hardware difference of some sort
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
psheu.. if that were possible that would be friggin fantastic; but if that were the case I would think they would still be on Orange DVDs in the 3.x version family.. So unless Acura is saying they aren't compatible to get people to buy new TLs there's probably a hardware difference of some sort
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#21
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if it's as simple as the bin then you might be able to rename the 4x bin to the 3x bin and load it.. I do not have a 4x disc to test though.. I do like the 4x setup better; I had a deal setup for someone @ work and she bought an 07 w/ NAV.. I was showing her a few things and the interface is nicer, map looks nicer too
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
if it's as simple as the bin then you might be able to rename the 4x bin to the 3x bin and load it.. I do not have a 4x disc to test though.. I do like the 4x setup better; I had a deal setup for someone @ work and she bought an 07 w/ NAV.. I was showing her a few things and the interface is nicer, map looks nicer too ![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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I think the screen hardware is different on the newer TL as well. Looks to be higher resolution, but I could be wrong.
This could be tried by maybe getting a PCMCIA->IDE (or USB2.0) adapter and booting from an external harddrive. Just to see if it'll work I mean.
This could be tried by maybe getting a PCMCIA->IDE (or USB2.0) adapter and booting from an external harddrive. Just to see if it'll work I mean.
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Originally Posted by zax123
I think the screen hardware is different on the newer TL as well. Looks to be higher resolution, but I could be wrong.
This could be tried by maybe getting a PCMCIA->IDE (or USB2.0) adapter and booting from an external harddrive. Just to see if it'll work I mean.
This could be tried by maybe getting a PCMCIA->IDE (or USB2.0) adapter and booting from an external harddrive. Just to see if it'll work I mean.
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in my car right now I have both set of wires one that works with 07 HU and one set that works with 04-06 HU.....
#27
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Originally Posted by zax123
psheu,
You've ordered the new Navi drive to see if it'll work with the old navi hardware? That's cool! Please let us know if it works!
You've ordered the new Navi drive to see if it'll work with the old navi hardware? That's cool! Please let us know if it works!
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#28
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Update.. Bought an 8GB CF Card today; copied navi v 3.60 to it.. waiting for my PCMCIA CF reader to arrive - hopefully tomorrow..!
#29
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Well.. it's not plug and play that's for sure
when I try to load from PC Card it says "ATA CARD READ ERROR" - which is the same thing it says when there is no card at all.. maybe the PCMCIA adapter I bought needs drivers which would el-sucko =/
I wonder if there is a way to modify the location the system looks @ bootup =/
when I try to load from PC Card it says "ATA CARD READ ERROR" - which is the same thing it says when there is no card at all.. maybe the PCMCIA adapter I bought needs drivers which would el-sucko =/
I wonder if there is a way to modify the location the system looks @ bootup =/
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