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Old 03-23-2007 | 01:02 PM
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For those who want to avoid tickets!

I just wanted to post up what I have been doing that has helped me avoid many tickets. I have only been able to do part of it to the TL

The unit I installed was the Bel Rx-75 Pro. It detects all radar bands, detects and blocks laser, detects radar detector--detectors, and is stealth for the most part. It is an integrated system so it avoids the windshield mount and the powersource cable. The radar detector system is hidden inside the driver's side behind the front bumper cover, there are 2 laser shifters slightly exposed in the middle vent, the rear shifter is mounted upside of the license plate holder in the back, there is a speaker for voice and audible alerts inside mounted up and hidden under the dash, and the display I mounted above the radio flushed in.

Since I installed this unit I have not had any issues (knock on wood). I have not tried that many systems but I know this works well. I know driving through Maryland, Ohio, and Jersey I deteced 90 percent of the cops I encountered. When you get hit with laser the system will alert you to a "laser warning" then you have the option to press a button hidden depending on where you located it to shut down the system for 30 seconds while you drive pass the cop. The button is awesome because the cop will most likely gun you again after his intial beam got an error but by now you have slowed down and he'll get a reading which is something within the speed limit.

On top of that I use photoblocker and spray a whole can on one plate. It only works at night though. Friends that follow me at night even notice the much brighter reflection of my plate compared to others. This works for speed and redlight cameras which I freakin hate with a passion. It doesn't work in the day though.



Old 03-23-2007 | 01:21 PM
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Man now this is a guy that doesn't want to slow down.
Old 03-23-2007 | 01:22 PM
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I've seen some thing like this before. There was a business lady not sure if she is on here, she had a TL and behind the middle air vent she put one of those display and same setup as yours in the front...I know this is way better than getting a V1, but I can just picture the price tag on the installation and product...

Can you tell me how much this cost you, including labor?
Old 03-23-2007 | 01:39 PM
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I think you've got the 'plus', not the pro.

Looks like in the neighborhood of $1500 installed. Yikes
Old 03-23-2007 | 02:08 PM
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Old 03-23-2007 | 02:37 PM
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or you can just get an escort 8500, with the top rated laser blocker which is the blinder m 20 or m40...

escort = $299
blinder = $290
and install it your self, since its not that hard...

go to radarbusters.com to check out what im talking about...
Old 03-23-2007 | 04:07 PM
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I saw the tv show mythbusters, where they tried all those photo reflective anti glare sprays and they all didnt work... Hrmm
Old 03-23-2007 | 04:09 PM
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Also, Radar detectors are great and all, but if a cop does the speed test where he sets his speed at XX mph, and then gets in the left lane and guns it to see if anyone is going his speed, what good does the radar detector do if he doesnt use the laser or any type of detection device.
Old 03-23-2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lusid
I saw the tv show mythbusters, where they tried all those photo reflective anti glare sprays and they all didnt work... Hrmm
He's not talking about spray's and hanging CD's on your mirror (they tested hoax methods of jamming in Mythbusters). There are electronic laser jammers out there that work. Blinder if one of the good ones.

Laser Jammers tested on radartest.com
Old 03-23-2007 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lusid
Also, Radar detectors are great and all, but if a cop does the speed test where he sets his speed at XX mph, and then gets in the left lane and guns it to see if anyone is going his speed, what good does the radar detector do if he doesnt use the laser or any type of detection device.
There is always that, but that's where eyes, brain, and common sense come into play.

I'm probably going to jinx myself, but I haven't had a ticket in 14 years and I drive like a maniac (hate to say it). I've had a radar detector since I was 16, and the only tickets I've ever gotten were on my motorcycle (tickets weren't for speeding). Having a good detector, knowing how radar & cops work, keeping your eyes open, and not driving with tunnel vision can go a long way to staying ticket free.

I honestly thinks lots of drivers drive with tunnel vision and only watch a narrow patch of road a few hundred feet in front of their car. I see it all the time when a lane ends on the highway... morons practically run the road horse down because they don't watch down the road. I feel like I'm always scanning down the road as far as my eyes can see. You see a mess load of cars braking at the same point you know something is up (again people jam on their brakes like 25 feet from the cop car because they drive with tunnel vision).

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Old 03-23-2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HiTEC
He's not talking about spray's and hanging CD's on your mirror (they tested hoax methods of jamming in Mythbusters). There are electronic laser jammers out there that work. Blinder if one of the good ones.

Laser Jammers tested on radartest.com

No I think Lusid is talking about the photo reflective spray. They recently did a show on red light cameras and even with the photo reflective spray the camera still took an accurate photo of the plate.

The whole radar jamming was a different episode.
Old 03-23-2007 | 05:10 PM
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The OP's last sentence mentioned spray so I commented on that.
Old 03-23-2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HiTEC
He's not talking about spray's and hanging CD's on your mirror (they tested hoax methods of jamming in Mythbusters). There are electronic laser jammers out there that work. Blinder if one of the good ones.

Laser Jammers tested on radartest.com
Jammers of any kind are illegal in CA. You get caught with on and prepare to get spanked. A cop will know he is getting jammed because the radar or laser will display it. Besides, most cops don't run around with their radars transmitting. They are on but are not transmitting a signal. So by the time he transmits and gets a signal with your speed, the detector has no time to warn you.
Old 03-23-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Old 03-23-2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TypeS Racer
Jammers of any kind are illegal in CA. You get caught with on and prepare to get spanked. A cop will know he is getting jammed because the radar or laser will display it. Besides, most cops don't run around with their radars transmitting. They are on but are not transmitting a signal. So by the time he transmits and gets a signal with your speed, the detector has no time to warn you.
Thanks for letting me know how radar and laser works. Not everybody lives in California, just so you know. Also some jammers like the Lidatek jammer will jam for 5seconds then shut off. The point behind this is to give the driver 5 seconds to slow down, then the officer will lock your speed. Hopefully you are below the limit by that point.
Old 03-25-2007 | 12:32 AM
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To reply to all those who watch the mythbusters episode have a point but they did all their tests during the day time. I specifically noted that during the day it does not work. At night, it's a different story. The reason this happens is because at night a flash from the speed/redlight camera reflects a great amount of light back to the lens. Here's a simple example, shine a light on a simple reflector during the day. The amount of light in the environment is so abundant that the reflected light is not as apparent. Now go shine a light at the same reflector at night where the surrounding light is limited and you'll notice a brighter reflection. I have it on all my cars and all my friends cars and it works but only at night. All you people who watched the episode have to understand the parameters that the show used is all I am saying.

The RX-75 plus cost me $1k. I had a friend who used to work at a place familiar with the system install it. After watching him install it I noticed that any person somewhat familiar with installing a radio could do this. The hardest part is hiding the wires to have the clean look.

I am not claiming this is a gurantee to prevent tickets but having something that extends my vision against hidden police searching for speeders is by all means better than not having it. If a cop is behind and sets his speed and turns on radar, my detector will notify me that a radar is active. If it is laser it will tell me where it is coming from front or rear. If there are others on the freeway, he would have to decide who is the violator. In this situation I never speed to the point where I am 15 mphs faster than my surrounding cars. By the time he thinks it is me, I would have been notified by my system to slow down. If this was at night and I am by myself, I would maybe do 15 mph over and if a headlight was coming from behind me, I would slow down to maybe 5 over if not the limit. Did I miss a scenario? I don't necessarily race on the streets but I do tend to extend the speed limit a little and am not reckless.

My friend has the Valentine 1 paired with the Blinder and to me I think that may be one of the best out there too but I wanted an integrated system with 1 display instead of 2. This thread is for those who plan on or already have radar detectors. I just wanted to share my experience. If you are skeptical about detectors in the first place than I am not trying to change you mind. It's nice to hear your thoughts though.
Old 03-25-2007 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 05tlvietboi
or you can just get an escort 8500, with the top rated laser blocker which is the blinder m 20 or m40...

escort = $299
blinder = $290
and install it your self, since its not that hard...

go to radarbusters.com to check out what im talking about...
I 2nd the radarbusters site, it's a good one. Blinder is awesome too. I think from what I have read it is the best anti-laser system.
Old 03-25-2007 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
Also, Radar detectors are great and all, but if a cop does the speed test where he sets his speed at XX mph, and then gets in the left lane and guns it to see if anyone is going his speed, what good does the radar detector do if he doesnt use the laser or any type of detection device.
Also if a cop is pacing me which they do a lot of in California then I would be screwed too. It is up to me to be aware what is around me visually but have added defense.
Old 03-25-2007 | 01:21 AM
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Just checked out the site. I see a future investment in one of these.
Old 03-25-2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TypeS Racer
Jammers of any kind are illegal in CA. You get caught with on and prepare to get spanked. A cop will know he is getting jammed because the radar or laser will display it. Besides, most cops don't run around with their radars transmitting. They are on but are not transmitting a signal. So by the time he transmits and gets a signal with your speed, the detector has no time to warn you.

I am from Huntington Beach, California too so I am aware of Cali laws too. Last I remembered, modding cars that don't meet smog requirements was illegal too! Then again so is speeding, running a redlight, not fully stopping at a stop sign etc. I don't suggest it Cali though because the majority of the time when I'm in Virginia (which any radar or jammer or any sort is illegal) I have it off. The benefit of an integrated radar laser system is that the officer has to be looking for it to notice it unlike the ones mounted on the windshield.

If you are talking about pop radar, it can not distinguish the speeder unless I am the only one on the road. If it is laser than the officer has good aim because usually they aim at the license plates or roof line to get instantaneous speed which usually needs to be aimed.
Old 03-26-2007 | 02:27 PM
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Couple of things:

1. the car has a VA plate. VA requires a front plate as well. Ask me how I know.
2. These things are illegal in VA. If you do get pulled over, you'll get a ticket. And having the units so obviously mounted is an invitation to a conversation.

I have the same model (I think). I put the front laser units behind the center opening. For the rear, I did similiarly to you, but I mounted the sensor in a black license plate frame. Sort of 'hiding in plain site'. I put the control unit behind the flipup pocket door under the radio, the speaker under the seat.
Old 03-26-2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by weedeater
Couple of things:

1. the car has a VA plate. VA requires a front plate as well. Ask me how I know.
2. These things are illegal in VA. If you do get pulled over, you'll get a ticket. And having the units so obviously mounted is an invitation to a conversation.

I have the same model (I think). I put the front laser units behind the center opening. For the rear, I did similiarly to you, but I mounted the sensor in a black license plate frame. Sort of 'hiding in plain site'. I put the control unit behind the flipup pocket door under the radio, the speaker under the seat.

I just went out and got a black license plate frame! great idea! it blends in more.
The only problem I have with the rear sensor is that it completely covers my rear trunk actuator. So I have to use the key for the trunk release. For the front plate since I have not bracket, i usually tell them that the bracket is on order because it is not recommended to drill into the front bumper of a $50k car. use it twice and it worked. you have to kind of get down to eye bumper level to see the front sensors. i have been told to use the "those are proximity sensors" excuse should they ever ask. I have a rigged black cap that goes over my display that snaps in place .
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Is anyone running a K40 laser Jammer? i looked on youtube and theres a freakin video saying it doesnt work, from personal experience i think it does because i passed a cop doing 90 while he hit my car and i didnt get pulled over.... (maybe i got lucky and he was too lazy to pull me over?)

anyway, iv been looking up searches on the k40 specifically for quite some time and i cant find anything.... So any help would be greatly appreciated
Old 11-27-2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HiTEC
He's not talking about spray's and hanging CD's on your mirror (they tested hoax methods of jamming in Mythbusters). There are electronic laser jammers out there that work. Blinder if one of the good ones.

Laser Jammers tested on radartest.com
radartest and Craig Peterson are Escort employees... There's nothing credible about any of the rviews on that site. It's a giant commercial for Escort Products.
Old 11-27-2007 | 04:15 PM
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unfortunately thats true, I purchased the x50 before I knew this

otherwise i would have purchased the v1.
Old 11-27-2007 | 04:39 PM
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I still think the 9500i/ or even teh X50 is better, my friend and I have been driving with each other a lot and my X50/ and 9500 i have both picked up signals before him.... Even when he was in front of me! There would also be times we'd be right next to each other and my radar goes off, his would pick up the signal a few seconds later!!!

Escort> V1


Back to my original question

s anyone running a K40 laser Jammer? i looked on youtube and theres a freakin video saying it doesnt work, from personal experience i think it does because i passed a cop doing 90 while he hit my car and i didnt get pulled over.... (maybe i got lucky and he was too lazy to pull me over?)

anyway, iv been looking up searches on the k40 specifically for quite some time and i cant find anything.... So any help would be greatly appreciated
Old 11-28-2007 | 10:23 AM
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I have the most logical solution! Slow down In my state cops cant pull you over for going 9(I dont recall the actual number) over, but State patrol can.
Old 11-28-2007 | 12:39 PM
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I read a forum full of cops... it drove me insane reading it, but the general concensus is 10-13 over the limit is safe, anything past that is ticket city. But I never speed in a 30MPH zone (city)
Old 11-28-2007 | 03:18 PM
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K40 anyone.... last call? lol
Old 11-30-2007 | 08:25 PM
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so wats the verdict for this?? i guess slow down and watch out for the pigs right since no radar detector works
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