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Old 07-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

I'm still amazed at how many people bypass the cxs or xs speakers for anything HAT, Focal, etc for 3x the price. On about 3 different occasions I've seen someone say they closely compare the cxs/xs to the L6. Never heard the L6's, but they seem to get high praises, which is a good thing for us! lol
That was especially true last week when you could pick up the CXS set for $169 on Sonic Electronix or piece together the X-65 mid and XS-28 tweeter for $250.
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For that $250, you can piece together something beautiful on partsexpress or madisound
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For $170...I think the cxs is hard to beat. It's gotta be up there. The xs/cxs mid is being compared to the b&c 6md38 and the 6nd410 I believe. Both are great performers from what I hear. There are SOO many DIY type speakers
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Don't even know why they would compare the cxs or even the xs to the 6nd.

Apples to oranges.

Esp below 200hz
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Originally Posted by eggyhustles
Don't even know why they would compare the cxs or even the xs to the 6nd.

Apples to oranges.

Esp below 200hz
Eggy, if I was your master (a good one) and asked you to piece me something beautiful for the TL and gave you $200 to do it, what would you bring me? (better be car speakers)

I ask you bc you seem to have a good knowledge of just about everything out there in terms of car audio (maybe more?).

Purely hypothetical.
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Originally Posted by stevemk07
Eggy, if I was your master (a good one) and asked you to piece me something beautiful for the TL and gave you $200 to do it, what would you bring me? (better be car speakers)

I ask you bc you seem to have a good knowledge of just about everything out there in terms of car audio (maybe more?).

Purely hypothetical.
Eggy is to Sundown what I am to Dynaudio.
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that is full of beuty!!
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Eggy is to Sundown what I am to Dynaudio.
only 1 sundown product in my setup, sir!

Still love their amps, though.

If i had $200 dollars, i would use that toward deadening. Nothing worthwhile hardware wise for 200 bucks
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Heh, okay well perhaps more deadening is next up for 'Gisele'. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by eggyhustles
Don't even know why they would compare the cxs or even the xs to the 6nd.

Apples to oranges.

Esp below 200hz


Here's the review. http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ml#post1670657
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Send a PM to JayVee. He still has his and will ship it to ya for cheap
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Originally Posted by eggyhustles
Don't even know why they would compare the cxs or even the xs to the 6nd.

Apples to oranges.

Esp below 200hz
Just looked at those. Looks like one is a high efficiency high power large midrange that should get stupid loud but only has 2mm xmax. Proabably great from 200hz and up. Now I see what you said apples and oranges. One is a pro audio style midrange, the other a midbass.

Fs is 120hz, yep, it's a midrange. I'm very surprised myself that some are comparing them to a midbass. With a pro audio driver I wouldn't go any less than a 10" if you want ok midbass output.

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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Just looked at those. Looks like one is a high efficiency high power large midrange that should get stupid loud but only has 2mm xmax. Proabably great from 200hz and up. Now I see what you said apples and oranges. One is a pro audio style midrange, the other a midbass.

Fs is 120hz, yep, it's a midrange. I'm very surprised myself that some are comparing them to a midbass. With a pro audio driver I wouldn't go any less than a 10" if you want ok midbass output.
The 6nd430 has an FS of 61hz and 22mm xmax (p2p). Guy said he's running it 80/12db (he had the xs's at 100/12db for some reason). Am I missing something? Serious question as I still don't understand much about specs

Whats the difference in a pro audio speaker vs. your basic car audio style? I know that's really general..but..

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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
The 6nd430 has an FS of 61hz and 22mm xmax (p2p). Guy said he's running it 80/12db (he had the xs's at 100/12db for some reason). Am I missing something? Serious question as I still don't understand much about specs

Whats the difference in a pro audio speaker vs. your basic car audio style? I know that's really general..but..
The only thing I can find on either of those speakers is an fs of 120 to 130 and 2mm xmax.
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
The only thing I can find on either of those speakers is an fs of 120 to 130 and 2mm xmax.
http://www.eighteensound.it/index.as...simple&pid=243

Specs are right below the pic
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

Whats the difference in a pro audio speaker vs. your basic car audio style? I know that's really general..but..
Efficiency and low end.

It's a trade off depending on what u wanna do.


The 10 in my door is 97db @ 1w so i can cross @ 80 and still get gobs and gobs of midbass. I can cross lower too since i have so much efficiency and power to burn.

A lot of people use them in SPL systems since they get very loud with minimal power.

Same goes for HCLD's. Those things will tear your head off with 3 watts.


One of the best sounding cars in the world (richard clark's GN) ran pro audio mids and horns.
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Update:

I suppose I can officially conclude that the title to this thread is a fail. Last week I upgraded my wiring from 4 gauge to 1/0. It was surprising to me how much larger the 1/0 is compared to the 4 gauge. Here they are side-by-side:



I currently have the 1/0 going into a distribution block with two 4-gauge runs and one 8 gauge run to my amps.



I decided to upgrade my wiring because I'm replacing my Sony (200x2 @ 4ohms) with a Zapco DC 1000.4, which just arrived today.





I haven't decided for sure, but for now I plan to run the 1000.4 bridged to my components @500 watts per channel.
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Zapco tuning FTW!



Old 10-26-2012, 03:27 PM
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Replaced the Polk DB coaxials in the rear deck with my old ID CTX mids:


Picked up a DC 200.2 for my tweeters:
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:29 PM
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Picked up a Zapco DC 1100.1 and sold the Alpine PXE and PPI 1300.1. I have to say that having a powerful EQ for your subs can make a huge difference.





The tune is improving:


I still have some things left in my for sale thread in the black market if anyone is interested: Rockford BLD, Rockford Punch PBR, Sony 2-Channel

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