Is It Possible to Make Your Own DTS discs?

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Old 11-30-2004 | 02:17 PM
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Is It Possible to Make Your Own DTS discs?

I'm probably dreaming, but here goes.....

I have so many great concert DVD's that have a DTS track but won't play in the TL because it won't play DVD's. Is it possible to somehow extract that DTS track and make a DVD-A with Discwelder or other?

I can't imagine how to do it, but if it could be done, it would open up a world of 5.1 concert DVD's to the TL.
Old 11-30-2004 | 02:31 PM
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Hey orange-man, you may wish to check out this thread,

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...6&page=2&pp=25

I have been doing what you are requesting above for quite some time now. They sound awesome in the TL, granted not as good as an actual DVD-Audio disk but as good as 5.1 compressed audio can sound from the concert DVD!
Old 11-30-2004 | 03:14 PM
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TLS-Fiend,

Thanks so much!! I feel like I just struck gold. In addition to concert videos which may or may not have the best sound quality, people like Peter Gabriel and Genesis have released 5.1 remixes of their videos on DVD and now I can listen to this great music in the TL.

I can't thank you enough for this easy solution. I just ordered Discwelder and will download the extractor tonight.

Are there any things to watch out for or do you just extract, plug them into Discwelder and burn?

The weekend can't come fast enought!!
Old 11-30-2004 | 03:17 PM
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One more question. I presume that if the concert is 2 hours, that you need to make 2 DVD-A's with half the concert on each, correct?
Old 11-30-2004 | 08:10 PM
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If I remember correctly, everything in DVD-Audio Extractor was self explanatory. If you run up against problems just drop me a PM and I'll reply! Just make sure you choose the 6 channel extraction option if I remember correctly! As for the 2 or 2 question, you will probably have to do this. All I have converted so far have been one disk DVD concerts although I am chomping at the bit to convert the Dave Matthews Band three DVD concert in Central Park.
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:34 PM
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What I mean by needing more than one DVD-A is that a commercially produced DVD can hold an entire 2 hour concert on a single DVD. Or Peter Gabriel can have 23 videos plus extras on a single DVD.

I know that a DVD-A doesn't seem to be able to hold more than 80 minutes of music, but maybe I am mixing apples and oranges. The bit rate of DVD-A might be of a much higher density and what I would be putting on is presumably smaller files so maybe I can fit a two hour concert extracted from a single DVD to a single home-made DVD-A.

So my question is, how many minutes of 5.1 extracted audio can you put on a DVD-A that you create?
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:49 PM
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I wish I had a better answer for you on this one.... All I can tell you is that I extracted a 110 minute concert DVD (the longest I have done yet) and the file size after buring to DVD-Audio was like 4.66 GB so I had to break it across 2 regular DVDs. If my math is right that comes out to about 100 minutes of DVD-Audio from a DVD concert video to one DVD. Math is not my strong point so I may be totally off base!
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:54 PM
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Perfect. That's exactly what I need to know. I just wanted to get a rough idea of the 5.1 capacity and now I know. You can put something like 6CD's of stereo music on a DVD or 100 minutes of 5.1. Thanks so much. I'll let you know how it works for me after Discwelder arrives.
Old 11-30-2004 | 09:56 PM
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Good luck, the combination of software I use seems to be the easiest (or most foolproof for me). Hope you have as good a luck with it as I have.
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The length of time that can be recorded onto a DVD-A is a fuction of the number of channels and the bit depth and frequency that you record the sound.

A 4.0 DVD-A recorded at 24/96 will only last about 50 minutes.

However, a 4.0 16/44 will last almost twice that.

If you record a 5.1 DVD-Video concert or music program at 16/44, you should be able to get it onto a DVD-A if you edit things out like intros and long applause sections.

Creating a DTS CD can be done in 5.1 and it will last the full 80 minutes. However, the TL might exhibit the skipping sound if you do not burn the disc properly.
Old 12-02-2004 | 11:01 PM
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oblio98, is recording a 5.1 DVD-Video concert at 16/44 good enough? Would I lose any quality? I don't know how the audio on a a DVD compares to 16/44 or 24/96.

Thanks for your input.
Old 12-02-2004 | 11:25 PM
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DVD-V's are usually 16/48. You would need to convert the files to 16/44, unless SurCode will do it automatically, which I think it does not.

Anytime you lower the resolution, you are losing quality. It's just a matter of time vs. quality, just as with a VHS tape
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