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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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Navi Hack Issues

Hey guys..

I am trying to do the navi hacks tonight and just cant seem to get it to work.. I am running an orange 3.5 disc. I downloaded all the patches from http://www.vistabug.com/bb/viewforum.php?id=2 and they seem to work. I think my problem is the media I am using. I tried memorex DVD R+ and a TDK CDR+.. these discs must be about 5 years old.. not sure if that is the problem.. but everytime I put the hack disc in the rom it seems like the dvd rom cant read it because it goes straight to the check disc screen..

Is there any specific media discs that work? I am using a brand new Toshiba laptop to burn these discs so I dont think that is the problem.

Please let me know! I really want to change the splash screen and get rid of that stupid ok button. .

Thanks!
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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I haven't had any trouble with various types of disc. I currently use Memorex CD-R. Remember, you only need the 2 modified files BN2HLMD and BNHH401A on the cd to load the hacks. I have created a few disks with various logos so I can switch them up---right now I'm using the Ravens logo for football season.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
I haven't had any trouble with various types of disc. I currently use Memorex CD-R. Remember, you only need the 2 modified files BN2HLMD and BNHH401A on the cd to load the hacks. I have created a few disks with various logos so I can switch them up---right now I'm using the Ravens logo for football season.
Oh ok gonna try that now!! Ive been trying to burn all 9 files.. maybe that is the issue?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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well didnt work still.. I am using windows vista media player to burn the files.. Im gonna download nero and try again.. this sux!! lol Ive wasted like 10 discs trying stuff out.. I even went out and purchased some new discs.. This time I have Memorex DVD -R and Memorex CD -Rs that I am trying..
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Ok, now I just tried to burn the files with Nero and no success..

I dont know what I am doing wrong argh!!!

Any help?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Try another burner/PC?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
Try another burner/PC?
argh.. i guess ill try that.. wont have access to another computer but mine until friday ..
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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You can also try ImgBurn (Google) which I find to be a very powerful burning app.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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i had a hell of a time getting this to work the second time I did it.........idk, its a pita sometimes. If you cant get it lmk and ill do it for you
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
You can also try ImgBurn (Google) which I find to be a very powerful burning app.
Ok ill try this tomorrow.

Originally Posted by CarrieLynn
i had a hell of a time getting this to work the second time I did it.........idk, its a pita sometimes. If you cant get it lmk and ill do it for you
Can you really, I am already on my 200th atempt I think lol?! Can I send you a pic I was hoping to use! Please let me know, Ill pay you for shipping and for the disk. lol

Do you have 3.5?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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Hell, Tim. I didn't even think of doing it for you. I can do that , too. Let me know. dwb993@yahoo.com
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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LOL so much love in here
Why dont we all just make you one

seriously tho, i have 3.5 and will make you one next week if you want. Not a big deal about the CD, I have like 157 of them. If nobody makes you one by Monday lmk and im all over it, im afraid I wont be able to get to it till then tho.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Cool!! Anyways, here is the pic i want to use..
I need it converted to BMP..


If you dont have time to convert to BMP you can use this pic:


Let me know how much you want to make this for me!
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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You know it supposed to say that right? When it comes up with check disk you press Guide, menu, cancel then version and load disk. If your already doing that I suggest using imgburn and burn cd-r's at slowest supported speed, normally 4x.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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Also burn at 1x, that is what I had to do...
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TRU3 L3GEND
You know it supposed to say that right? When it comes up with check disk you press Guide, menu, cancel then version and load disk. If your already doing that I suggest using imgburn and burn cd-r's at slowest supported speed, normally 4x.
I know its supposed to say that.. but I know it didnt work, because when ireboot the navi.. i see the oem navi screen and the nag screen lol .. So I am 100% sure it didnt work lol

Originally Posted by blokhead
Also burn at 1x, that is what I had to do...
Yah Ill try this today when I wake up!
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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OK I have no idea what I am doing wrong.. because this still didnt work.. my cd burners slowest write speed was 10x...

Anyways, maybe it is how I am loading the disk into the car is wrong.. let me verify what I am doing..

First of all my navi disk is in the dvd rom everytime my car is off.. So my navi is in the dvd rom everytime I try this.. so this is what I do..

1. Turn the car on.
2. Remove the Navi disk. Am I supposed to wait for the navi to load and get past the nag screen before I remove the navi disk?
3. I insert the hack disk.
4. I go into the car and wait til I get the disc read error.
5. I hold Map/Guide/Cancel for 5 seconds until Diagnostic screen pops up
6. I dont touch anything and wait for 5 seconds.
7. Then I choose "Version" on the navi screen
8. I wait 5 seconds again (I do this because the instructions in the Navi walkthrough thread are kinda confusing at this part)
9.Then I press "Load Disc"
- Now how long is it supposed to say loading disc for? Because whenever I do this it loads it for less then a second and then goes to the "Please check disc" screen
10. Then I go back to my trunk and install my navi disk.
- When I install it a Loading disk screen comes up with a loading bar.
- Then once its done loading my navi reveerts back to how it was with no mods..

Can someone help me!! lol
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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its sounds like you are forgetting to burn the loader file, make sure to burn that and your modified .bin file.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
its sounds like you are forgetting to burn the loader file, make sure to burn that and your modified .bin file.
Should I burn all 9 BIN files or just the loader file and the modified file?

Loader: BNHH401A.bin
Updated file: BN2HH12C.bin

People are saying to also burn this BIN file: BN2HHMLD.BIN
What is this one for?

Let me know asap! Wish I had your number csmeance haha.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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May I ask what the hack does for the navi? Is it just for pics?
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bzyrice
Should I burn all 9 BIN files or just the loader file and the modified file?

Loader: BNHH401A.bin
Updated file: BN2HH12C.bin

People are saying to also burn this BIN file: BN2HHMLD.BIN
What is this one for?

Let me know asap! Wish I had your number csmeance haha.
I think you may be doing it all wrong!!!! Your car uses BN2HHMLD.BIN as the loader (file to upload the navigation info) and uses BNHH401A.BIN as the navi information. The BN2HH12C.BIN is the navi info for the 3.3 disks!

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EDIT: the H12C is for the specific navi dvd drive, mine still uses this file even though it's 3.5. Since you have an 05 its probably the 401A.BIN. Way to check this is go to version and then press menu for 5 secs in the hidden menus
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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By jove, I think he got it! Well, I hope for bzyrice's sake.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Ok so which file should I hack and which files should I include in my burnt cd?

I really really need this spelled out for me haha.. im slooooow..
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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I have a 3.5 orange disk.
Here are the BIN files on my disk:
BN2HH12C.bin
BN2HH110.bin
BN2HH120.bin
BN2HHMLD.BIN
BN2HN12B.bin
BN2HN18B.bin
BN2HN380.bin
BNHH401A.bin
BNHN404A.bin
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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The MLD one is the loader, you must burn this one.

The one you need to modify is vehicle dependent. Turn on the car and wait for the OK button to appear. Then press the MAP MENU CANCEL buttons. You will get to the Hidden Menu, wait a few seconds and then press Version. Wait a few seconds for it to load and then press Menu button for 5 Seconds. You will see the file name listed there that you need to modify.

Modify this file as you did before and your done!

Or rename the modded file to the one it should be and your done!

PS you can call me till midnight on my #.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
The MLD one is the loader, you must burn this one.

The one you need to modify is vehicle dependent. Turn on the car and wait for the OK button to appear. Then press the MAP MENU CANCEL buttons. You will get to the Hidden Menu, wait a few seconds and then press Version. Wait a few seconds for it to load and then press Menu button for 5 Seconds. You will see the file name listed there that you need to modify.

Modify this file as you did before and your done!

Or rename the modded file to the one it should be and your done!

PS you can call me till midnight on my #.
Hey csmeance!! Thanks again for all your help!! I got the Back.bmp to work and the extra A/C menu's etc! I still cant get the OK Nag button to go away!! ARGH!! I think I need KennyC's 3.4 version if anyone has it! Or if anyone has a working navi.exe file they can send me that would even be better!! I would prefer KennyCs since his doesnt have all the wording.. Thanks!

Also, if anyone can convert this pic to bmp to the correct size I would be really greatful!! Ill even paypal you 2.00!! haha

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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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I've got both pics resized. Give me an email addy to send to. Mine is dwb993@yahoo.com
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dwb993
I've got both pics resized. Give me an email addy to send to. Mine is dwb993@yahoo.com
Thanks man!! Just sent you an email!!
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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So first, I would like to thank csmeance for figuring out what exactly was wrong. And I would like to thank dwb993 for sending me the files that worked!!

Now onto the pics!!
- My original Welcome screen:


- New Welcome Screen:


- Nag Screen with AD's hack!


- Info Screen now has the following extra options!
- A/C Screen
- Trip Computer
- Diag Menu (No more holding Map/Menu/Cancel anymore!)


- Unlocked Trip Screen:


- Unlocked A/C Screen:


- Developer Menu:


Now onto the Hex editor to edit the Nag screen!! lol

Last edited by bzyrice; Oct 23, 2009 at 02:14 PM.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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OK now that you guys got it im in the same problem. I have the Orange Disc with 3.5 on a 2006 TL. I did all the steps and it seems that the burned disc loads up and i see the blue picture an all but it doesnt seem to be saving the settings. STEP BY STEP please BZYRICE i know that you went through this problem. did you end up burning all nine BINS on a CD and included the two new one or i mean iam lost.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Once you have edited your BNHH401A.BIN file with the new bitmap and the hacks, burn it and BN2HHMLD.BIN to CD and load into your NAVI. When it reboots, make sure your custom image comes up and then re-insert your stock NAVI disk and you're done.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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What do you mean by Edit?? I tought you only had to download those two files and burn them on a CD themselves. I didnt know they had to be edited in any way? Anyone please give me a closer in step by step as far as editing goes. Does this mean that i get my original navi DVD and transfer the files there? Iam not super savy with comps , please explain further if its more than just putting the two files which had the hack allready on a cd and burning them
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
OK now that you guys got it im in the same problem. I have the Orange Disc with 3.5 on a 2006 TL. I did all the steps and it seems that the burned disc loads up and i see the blue picture an all but it doesnt seem to be saving the settings. STEP BY STEP please BZYRICE i know that you went through this problem. did you end up burning all nine BINS on a CD and included the two new one or i mean iam lost.
Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
What do you mean by Edit?? I tought you only had to download those two files and burn them on a CD themselves. I didnt know they had to be edited in any way? Anyone please give me a closer in step by step as far as editing goes. Does this mean that i get my original navi DVD and transfer the files there? Iam not super savy with comps , please explain further if its more than just putting the two files which had the hack allready on a cd and burning them
Let me ask you some questions first to know where you are at in the process..

have you made a bmp image yet that you want?
have you downloaded both hacks? The navi hack and the HMImanager hack?

If not you need to do those first..
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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I have not done the image yEt. i really dont care for that YET... Also i have downloaded the two hack files allready. NOW am i supposed to burn those 2 hacks ALONE on a CD, and then use that or am i missing a step b4 burning them to a CD, whats next after downloading the HAcks?
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
I have not done the image yEt. i really dont care for that YET... Also i have downloaded the two hack files allready. NOW am i supposed to burn those 2 hacks ALONE on a CD, and then use that or am i missing a step b4 burning them to a CD, whats next after downloading the HAcks?
No here are the basic steps:
1. Copy Navi BIN files to your computer. Insert your navi disc into your computer and save all the BIN files to a folder.
2. Take the Loader BIN file and pull all the files out. (BIN files are kind of like zip files)
3. Run the hacks on the BIN files that you pulled out.
4. Replace the BIN files that you hacked and put them back into the Main BIN file.
5. Burn the BIN that the Navi uses to start the navigation (Different for different versions) and the Loader BIN file you hacked onto a black CD -R or DVD -R.
6. Put Burnt CD into the DVD drive.
7. Once it loads then put back your DVD.

Steps 2 - 5 also require a program called CEBIN or Dumpnavi.. more detailed info here in the sticky at the front page of the audio section: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-audio-bluetooth-electronics-navigation-94/navigation-hack-guide-welcome-screen-mod-trip-computer-ok-button-nag-removal-604912/
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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k i tried to download that dumpnavi but wasnt working ill have to try this a little later on today weni have more time... Thx
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Sorry guys but iam wayyyyyy toooo lost i have no idea what to do i got the files i copie the navi files i got the dumpnavi but it doesnt even open on me and i have no clue where to do the command prompts that iam intrusted to do
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
k i tried to download that dumpnavi but wasnt working ill have to try this a little later on today weni have more time... Thx
Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
Sorry guys but iam wayyyyyy toooo lost i have no idea what to do i got the files i copie the navi files i got the dumpnavi but it doesnt even open on me and i have no clue where to do the command prompts that iam intrusted to do
lol ur worse off then me.. cuz at least I could get the command prompt up.. have you ever used DOS? do you know what DOS is?

Go to Start -> Accessories -> Command prompt

THat will get you the command prompt.. then follow the directions in that link..
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haha i know somewhat wat that it is , i tought that dumpnavi had the promp command in it. as far as the dumpnavi program there were three versions 4 download when i open it it has two options ONE is to load the BOOTLOADER FILE and the second box is to load the BITMAP IMAGE.. is this the right DUMPNAVI program to use?
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Originally Posted by '06BlackonBlackTL
haha i know somewhat wat that it is , i tought that dumpnavi had the promp command in it. as far as the dumpnavi program there were three versions 4 download when i open it it has two options ONE is to load the BOOTLOADER FILE and the second box is to load the BITMAP IMAGE.. is this the right DUMPNAVI program to use?
i used the one without the graffics interface.. Not sure why it is asking for stuff.. mine didnt..
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