I am about to buy a new HID Fog kit for my TL and im looking at Power Series H8 3000k HID kit from HIDExtra.com and I was wondering a few things.

http://www.hidextra.com/h8-3000k-hid-kit/

Should I buy the HID Relay Harness and HID Capacitor or are they pointless?

On my previous fog HID kit from vleds.com I had a problem on the left side where it burned out and I could never pinpoint it because after repeated attempts I could not get the correct bulb for the ballast that was in my car ( I do not know if they shipped me the wrong ballasts so the bulbs would not connect correctly or they kept sending me the wrong bulbs, either way never figured it out)

Would you recommend purchasing them? Also would you recommend this company and if not who would you recommend?

I do not know much about electrical/wiring and would like some genuin input and maybe an explanation on what they do exactly?

I know some are going to say "Cant hurt" but I would like a little more than that lol

Thanks guys

 

Relay harness is cheap insurance, the running voltage should be close enough to stock but they require more power to start up. On an old car I had that I added HIDs to they worked fine for a while with stock wiring but after a while one side wouldn't always power up, added a cheap $10 eBay harness and never had that issue again. Upgraded wiring makes everything run better, less chance of damaging anything with the thin factory wires and you get the juice right from the battery and extra grounds. No clue what the capacitor is, never seen one added to an HID set but it's probably bogus. Never dealt with that company so no comments, if you want excellent quality go with Morimoto from TRS but they will cost you a bit more. For cheap I still stick with DDM, they have gone down hill but lifetime warranty for $40 and the fogs won't be on all the time anyways, I have their slim ballasts in my fogs with no issues, also not running a harness but I maybe put them on once or twice a year, I only installed them cause I had a kit lying around from an old car.

 

Always get a relay when buying an HID kit.
Always.

 

Wire Harness:
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=166

Ballasts:
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=21742

Bulbs:
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=4118

Best Customer Service you're going to find. Especially if you have malfunction problems with the equipment.

 

Now I've heard of people who put HIDs into fog lights and such that were not constructed for an HID having issues with the plastic and such melting. Have you guys ever heard of this, or would you have any concerns of this happening? I'm very newb to the lighting stuff, so just trying to figure it all out.

 

With a 55 watt kit that's very possible, not very likely with 35 watts. If you run a 55 watt kit on stock wires for a bulb meant to put out 35 watts and can easily melt wiring, and possibly the housing.

 

Thanks for the advice and the all the information. What I went with was 55W 3000k H8 lights from hidextra.com and the wiring harness, and after reading about the heading problems that sounds like it was a good idea. If these do not work how I would like them too I'm going to upgrade to what nate_0022 recommends but until them im going to hold out and see what happens.

I plan on taking the bumper off and just doing it right the first time. Does anyone want pictures and a DIY? I anticipate it going pretty easy but hey while im doing it might as well contribute something. Also I want to make them come on independently of any other light so I can use them when ever I want. Has anyone done this on a Type-S before and is the wiring the same as any other 3g with fogs?

Thanks for all of your help guys esp 350!

 

Yes they have been done. There is a DIY for independant foglight switch and for hooking up HID's. I would stongly advise against 55w. Once that chrome is burnt, you can't fix it. The your either looking to replace the fogs all together or retrofit projectors into that housing. It wont happen within the first couple weeks i'd assume, but after months of use peeling and flaking of the chrome will happen, and possibly melting internal stuff as well.

 

Hi Gnargasim,

Thank you for your interest in our HID kits. In regards to your question about your fogs, please know that there's no need to install relay or capacitors. Your H8 HID Conversion kit is good to go!

You can place your order over the phone at 860.821.8212 or you can go directly to http://www.hidextra.com/h8/?sort=bestselling

Thank you!

 

So if you were to do it would you do a 35W kit, or just do a yellow halogen bulb? I don't want to mess around with stuff melting and causing more problems.

 

I would stick to 35 watts unless it's in a projector that you know will handle the heat. I ran 55 watts on my low beams in a retrofit I did on my last daily, they were definitely brighter and need a decent projector. The 55 watt will also have shorter service life, stick to 35 especially in fogs.

 

I ended up buying the 55watt ones. I ordered them thursday morning at work and got the E-Mail that my order was received and then another that it was shipped a little later that morning. I entered the tracking number and it said it was processed in oakland CA and this morning it was at my house in Maryland.

Needless to say I am very impressed with the promptness of filling my order and the USPS lol

Good work to you guys at HIDextra!!

Ill be installing them tomorrow during the day, ill try to post some night pics and pics of where I mount the ballasts and what not.

 

May be unrelated a bit, but does anyone know how to stop flickering or why the hids will go out after just a few months? Is that a ballast problem?

 

I had that problem with a set of aftermarket HIDs (DDM Tuning). They replaced them and told me it was the ballast.

 

Do you have a relay? Some ballasts are super picky about voltage and need more than a standard bulb to start, I had one set that would flicker until I added a relay harness. You can find them for $10 shipped on eBay all day. Also it could be ballast or bulb, I had a bad Morimoto bulb that flickered in my TL, put the stock one back in no issues. Try swapping bulbs from side to side and see if it follows, then swap ballasts to rule it out.

 

Okay so I need your help.

I had the bumper completely off so I could do a proper install and for some reason I cannot get the lights to illuminate.

I had the positive for the harness attached to the battery which what looked like a 30amp inline fuse (which didn't appear bad), the negative to one of the bolt on points for one of the radiators which is metal contact not plastic or anything. Once I had the installed I tried to attach the factory fog relay to the harness so it would know when to activate. Apparently somewhere down the road I melted the connected on the car where the HID needs to install, so I tried to connected it to the other side which it did ( but was super tight and hard to get them to connect but eventually they did ) and I know that side works because I had a light hanging from it to ensure that the fogs were on and the connection was good.

After all of this I could not get the bulbs to illuminate regardless of the setup I tried.

I tried to connected another wire ground and test alternative grounds to se if that was the problem, nothing. I felt the ballast to see if they were at least warm from power going to them and nothing. I tried moving the bumper close to the car so I could install the light in the housing and tried it again, nothing. And yes the fog light switch was on and the low beams lol.

Any ideas guys?

What I am starting to think is that my car was in an accident that was not claimed on insurance and maybe they used diffent parts than what is factory. And the reason I think that is my bumper is a slightly different color than the rest of the car (assuming that it is newer than the rest of the car) and my hood does not sit evenly when looking at the quarter panels, one side is closer than the other. And on top of that this is the second time I have had a problem with getting H8 connection for an HID kit to connect with what is in my car.

When I try this again im going to get a grinder of some sort and make sure the ground has a pretty good connection but this just is not making sense to me.

 

Did the stock fog lights work? Since you have a relay, try putting wire from the battery to the plug for the stock socket to see if it goes on. If the stock wires aren't sending any power, the relay won't trigger on. Also could be a dud relay. Try plugging the ballasts directly to the stock plugs. Also check the fuse for the fog lights.

 

I see you bought 55w bulbs. Did you get 55w ballasts to accommodate for that or are you using the stock 35w?

 

Gnargasim,
Any update on your install? Does everything work now? Install pics of where you put your ballasts? Happy with end result?

I'm going to be purchasing soon a fog light kit either through ddm or HIDextra for a 35w kit and bulb color to match my headlights. Was hoping for some feedback from someone who just did it and has some pointers..........

 

Yeah this is an old thread now but no still dont have them installed. I have nothing to do tonight so I might just try to put them on a completely isolated relay to one on the extra spots we have to the right of the steering wheel. Has anyone ever done this?

 

Right on!
I'd like to have my fogs run independent of the highs/lows too but really don't care to mess with that mod at this point.
Really just looking for ideas on ballast placement since I haven't had my bumper off yet and know what I'm dealing with. I guess in good time I'll figure it out. Have a full Aspec Kit to install and full front grille to colormatch so when spring comes I'll have my whole front end off and take care of the HID install at the same time.
Good luck and keep us posted

 

Sounds good. I Pm'd a member here and we might be meeting up to help me install them. Ill def let you know and Ill take some pics of ballast placement and stuff to help you out. I miss my fogs lol

 

Might have to do this too!