xelvic

Hey guys,

I need some help with installing Vsolkov's nav box. The quality of this box is great from what I can tell. However the instructions are the worse I have ever seen. I have no idea where to install this box. If you look at the last picture you will see 9 wires. Where are the wires I need to splice into? Are they behind the nav screen? Are they in the trunk next to the dvd rom? I also got the service manual to help me out but untill I know where to start I am lost. Please help guys, and thank you.

narmeen

Cant see the pics???

xelvic

Realy? Anyone else having that problem?

zax123

Xelvic, do you have the electrical troubleshooting manual? In the manual, the pinouts for the navi unit in the trunk are very clearly shown.

I don't have the manual with me, but when I do I'll tell you which wires go to what. It's really straightforward.

xelvic

I just got the regular service manual. So you are saying this box hooks up in the trunk to the rom unit? I guess that is good because I was thinking I had to rip up my consule to do this. Wait, I will have to anyway because I have to install my powered fm modulator. ugggggggggg

xelvic

Zax, by the way, are you seeing my pictures?

zax123

Yup, I see your pictures.

I'll scan the relevant page in the electrical service manual for you. It'll clearly show you where to go.

Taking apart the front console is lots of fun. I found it quite difficult. Especially the center HVAC vents. I finally put my dash back together this weekend after being apart for a couple months while I do everything.

As for powered FM modulator. You might want to investigate the Blitzsafe adapter. The sound quality is much better.

xelvic

Zax123, Thank you for your help. I checked into the blitzsafe deal but I would have to lose my XM radio. I love my XM and can't go without it. I see your in Canada. I think you guys don't have XM so you could do that. So if I have to hook the unit up in the trunk I will have to run the RCA video to the dash where my DVD player will be. That switch for the nav box is only a couple of feet long so I guess I will have to cut it and add some more wire. I wish I knew how to get to the back of the radio so I could get to the antenne without taking the console totally apart.

Jinen

Isn't sokolov coming out with a "plug-and-play" unit soon? Last time I called them, they said that they are trying to replicate the 20-pin solution behind our receiver, so you just have to plug it in behind the receiver and it should be all good......

does anyone know whether they have completed the production of that unit?

becuase if they have come out with it, then you really don't need to do all the splicing of the wires and stuff (correct me if i am wrong)...

xelvic

I have heard from many people on here that he has a plug and play unit. However, I have called him and he says no. I just got this yesterday from him so I would think it would be the latest and greatest one out. I wish he did though. And Vsolkov if your listening, I Luv ya man, but you have got to come out with some better directions. Sorry for messing up your name, but I can never remember how to spell it.

xelvic

I just looked at my service manual and there my be a place where I can hook up the modulator by the rear window antenna fead. I hope I get lucky!

rbf351

the wiring can be done either in the trunk or behind the actual screen, just depends on where you want to place it

xelvic

Can you please explain "Where" do I connect it at in the front or in the trunk? Is there a harnass I should be looking for?

rbf351

the harness are different from the new TL vs the old TL and CL, so i wouldn't be able to tell you exactly which one since i don't have an actual schmatic

zax123

Here are some pics to help you out xelvic:

This is what the back of the navi unit looks like. The unit in the trunk:

You are concerned with what is labelled as connector A.

Here's the schematic of the connector coming out of the Navi unit:

Note the wires labelled: "R SIG", "G SIG", "B SIG" and "C SIG".

And finally, here's a diagram of the connector and exactly where you tap into each wire:


Splice the R SIG wire and then follow instruction for Sokolov RED wire.
Splice the B SIG wire and then follow instruction for Sokolov BLUE wire.
Splice the G SIG wire and then follow instruction for Sokolov GREEN wire.
Splice the C SIG wire and then follow instruction for Sokolov SYNC wire.

You can connect GROUND to pin 3 where it says "SIG GND". I forgot to put an arrow in the JPG. Sorry.

That's about it dude. Works like a charm first try. Good luck!

xelvic

Zax123,

Thank you so very much. This will help me so much. Man I love this site!!!!!!!

spyfish007

xelvic: Be sure and use the SMALL red and white wires in the harness instead of the LARGE red and white wires. Notice in the pic they are all grouped together. It is an easy mistake to make.

zax123

You're most welcome, xelvic.

xelvic

Zax123,

I notice in the 3rd picture it says "on dashboard wire harness". I just want to make sure that I splice into the wires comming from the DVD rom unit in the trunk and not behind the dash. Also a couple other questions for ya. Do I use the power source from the DVD ROM unit to power the nav box? Or do I just run a hot wire from the fuse box using an add-a-circuit? I also want to get the definition of splice or tap into a wire. Do I make a slit in the wire and soder together? Or am I cutting the wire in half? Thanks.

xelvic

Wow, thank you, if there is going to be a mistake made in this project I'm sure I will find it.

zax123

Uh oh!! I scanned the wrong picture for you!!!

Ignore that third pic. I'll put the right one up this evening. Sorry dude!

Yes, you can take power from the navi unit. Some people do that. I ran a new power line straight from the fusebox using an add-a-circuit on the two free slots, #29 and #31 I believe. I actually ran two lines. One for my PS2, and the other powers the navi conversion box as well as my AV switcher. I figured why not.

Sorry, for splice I mean, cut the wire and attach the appropriate sokolov wire to one side and to the other side. The ground wire you don't need to cut, you can just expose some wire and solder to that.

xelvic

Zax123,

I am glad you have done this project before because you are helping me a lot. I don't think I could have done this without your help. I am going to do this all on Saturday and Sunday so I am trying to get as much info as I can. I also will be installing my comptech sway bar. Its going to be a very fun weekend. Imagine.... me going down a twisty mountain highway 100 mph breaking in my new sway bar and doing all this while watching the Matrix on my nav screen!!!!!!!!!!!! MuuuuuHaaaaaa muuuhaaaaaaa!!



JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!! Come on guys I know better then that!

zax123

The law says you're supposed to connect the ground wire of the selector switch to yoru parking brake so you can only watch movies when you're parked, but I doubt there's a single person on this site that did it that way.

I'll get that pic for you tonight dude, no worries!

crazymjb

Take some instalation pictures, that'll help all future installs. How much does this Unit cost. If its not too much money and work maybe I'd install it for my dads birthday(when he finally goes down and gets the car).

xelvic

275.00 but you also have to buy a DVD player and FM modulator of your choice.

For me:
275.00 Nav Module
200.00 DVD player
50.00 FM powered modulator

crazymjb

Thanks. Not too steep. I think in our case it would probably make more sence to put TVs in the headrests. Im still waiting for my father to except that his car is totalled and get this thing!

zax123

xelvic, the last pic is now correct. Sorry about that!

xkactetx

call sokolov he has very easy install instructions he tells you the colors and which pin very easy call him 718-851-4817 or 718-909-2192 he can email them or fax it with his instructions it will be done in thirty minutes.

vsokolov

Sorry guys, I didn't put the instructions for the tl install. My shipping clerk doesnt know where its going I have two numbers 718-851-4817 and 718-909-2192 at which you can get 24 hour support. Follow the instructions below. Thank You guys

Behind navi unit in the trunk you should find the Black 20 pin plug. The wires are next to each other.

1.cut WHITE wire coming from navi unit, wires from module connect red toward screen and yellow towards navi unit

2. cut RED wire coming from navi unit, wires from module connect blue toward screen and green towards navi unit

3. cut YELLOW wire coming from navi unit, wires from module connect violet toward screen and orange towards navi unit

4. cut brown wire coming from navi unit, wires from module connect black toward screen and brown towards navi unit

5. take BLUE coming from navi unit, wires from module connect black with letters into blue of navi screen


Please solder all connections.

DO NOT WATCH WHILE DRIVING, CHECK LOCAL LAWS.
INTENDED ONLY FOR OFF ROAD USE
WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR NAVIGATION FROM IMPROPER INSTALLATION.

xelvic

I am confused with step 5 . "Take BLUE coming from navi unit, wires from module connect black with letters into blue of navi screen". Are you saying I just cut the blue wire from the nav unit and solder the modules black wire to the screen side? What does the blue comming out of the nav unit hook to then? Do you just leave it lay there?

zax123

As I mentioned in my instructions, just strip some of the ground (BLUE) wire, don't cut it, and solder the ground wire from the Sokolov connector. That's the one with the heat-shrink tubing around it (black with wire letters).

xelvic

Thanks Zax123. I think I got it all down now. You guys have been a great help to me. I will take many pics and post it for everyone to see. I know this thread will help a lot of people who are going to do this themselves. If the modorator doesn't mind. I will post all of the pics in this thread to keep it all together. Zax123, I forgot to ask earlier but do I have to do anything special to make this play while moving?

zax123

Nope, if you don't wire it to your handbrake, it'll "just work". The toggle switch will let you choose what image appears on your Navi screen, either the composite video in, or the Navi/audio info.