DVD- Audio WTF
11-17-2010, 07:06 PM
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DVD- Audio WTF
Why in blue hell are they so damn expensive.... Look at this....
http://www.amazon.com/Zone-Britney-S...42284&sr=1-107
Is this big business? Flippin DVD-A's?
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Purple-Ma...42624&sr=1-231
http://www.amazon.com/Zone-Britney-S...42284&sr=1-107
Is this big business? Flippin DVD-A's?
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Purple-Ma...42624&sr=1-231
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11-17-2010, 08:10 PM
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Princelybug is right...these discs are not made anymore. So now, some companies think that they can charge a lot more for any remaining discs in the marketplace.
It was a fantastic thought, format and idea. The mass public never bought into it.
It was a fantastic thought, format and idea. The mass public never bought into it.
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11-17-2010, 10:17 PM
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Oh yea, you'll definitely be able to tell the difference. DVD Audio discs are amazing.
11-17-2010, 10:28 PM
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I remember when you could buy Hotel California for $24.99!
11-18-2010, 01:15 PM
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11-18-2010, 01:25 PM
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Those prices are insane. I bought a Crystal Method DVD-Audio on Amazon for $20
11-18-2010, 08:51 PM
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In the TL it doesn't really matter with the stock crap. Just sound positioning. Acura went the wrong way, should have dropped DVD-A for MP3 (2004) as the difference is negligible on the stock system. Now, drop a DVD-A in my home stereo and there is no comparison.
11-19-2010, 09:53 PM
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You should be able to. Understand that MP3's are squashed about 6-1/2 times a normal CD, let alone a DVD-Audio disc.
You should be able to hear a HUGE difference from a DVD-Audio from an MP3 recording. Maybe listen to both in a good sound system. Then you'll be able to hear the difference.
11-20-2010, 12:37 AM
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there needs to be a little bit of clarification here!
Most music that is on shelves, both digital and physical is in MP3 or CDA formats which have a TON Of compression and a ton of data loss. As well, both formats only have 2 channels of audio, left and right.
DTS disks (aka as DVD-Audio) is almost lossless audio! It retains almost all of the information that came from the studios and provides a much different hearing experience. As well, all 6 channels of audio are separated by the studio for the best sound possible!
The easiest way to see the difference is to tune to an XM channel, then pop in a CD with some tunes. Big difference! That same difference is the jump from CD to DVD-A!
I'm glad acura supports dvd audio so I can burn 8.4GB MP3 DVD's for my MDX!
Most music that is on shelves, both digital and physical is in MP3 or CDA formats which have a TON Of compression and a ton of data loss. As well, both formats only have 2 channels of audio, left and right.
DTS disks (aka as DVD-Audio) is almost lossless audio! It retains almost all of the information that came from the studios and provides a much different hearing experience. As well, all 6 channels of audio are separated by the studio for the best sound possible!
The easiest way to see the difference is to tune to an XM channel, then pop in a CD with some tunes. Big difference! That same difference is the jump from CD to DVD-A!
I'm glad acura supports dvd audio so I can burn 8.4GB MP3 DVD's for my MDX!
11-22-2010, 03:57 PM
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http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74756
http://www.amazon.com/Love-CD-Audio-.../dp/B000JJS8TM
11-23-2010, 11:29 AM
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Another way to find some cheaper ones is to find the DualDisc format versions on EvilBay. Be careful, though, as you have to sift through the Sony-distributed versions as these don't work(they were pushing SACD). But, I've found a few good ones like Rob Thomas, Keane, etc.
11-23-2010, 01:14 PM
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Instead of using MP3s to burn onto discs, rip CD quality files to your HDD, normalize and burn to DVD. You won't be able to get as many tunes on one disc, but you can put a pile of CD quality stuff on an 8.5 GB disc.
Use Imgburn to burn with, too as it creates technically correct (to DVD-A spec) discs. Best of all, it's free.
Use Imgburn to burn with, too as it creates technically correct (to DVD-A spec) discs. Best of all, it's free.
11-26-2010, 09:41 PM
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Instead of using MP3s to burn onto discs, rip CD quality files to your HDD, normalize and burn to DVD. You won't be able to get as many tunes on one disc, but you can put a pile of CD quality stuff on an 8.5 GB disc.
Use Imgburn to burn with, too as it creates technically correct (to DVD-A spec) discs. Best of all, it's free.
Use Imgburn to burn with, too as it creates technically correct (to DVD-A spec) discs. Best of all, it's free.
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11-27-2010, 02:14 AM
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there needs to be a little bit of clarification here!
Most music that is on shelves, both digital and physical is in MP3 or CDA formats which have a TON Of compression and a ton of data loss. As well, both formats only have 2 channels of audio, left and right.
DTS disks (aka as DVD-Audio) is almost lossless audio! It retains almost all of the information that came from the studios and provides a much different hearing experience. As well, all 6 channels of audio are separated by the studio for the best sound possible!
The easiest way to see the difference is to tune to an XM channel, then pop in a CD with some tunes. Big difference! That same difference is the jump from CD to DVD-A!
I'm glad acura supports dvd audio so I can burn 8.4GB MP3 DVD's for my MDX!
Most music that is on shelves, both digital and physical is in MP3 or CDA formats which have a TON Of compression and a ton of data loss. As well, both formats only have 2 channels of audio, left and right.
DTS disks (aka as DVD-Audio) is almost lossless audio! It retains almost all of the information that came from the studios and provides a much different hearing experience. As well, all 6 channels of audio are separated by the studio for the best sound possible!
The easiest way to see the difference is to tune to an XM channel, then pop in a CD with some tunes. Big difference! That same difference is the jump from CD to DVD-A!
I'm glad acura supports dvd audio so I can burn 8.4GB MP3 DVD's for my MDX!
11-27-2010, 10:58 AM
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This post is confusing. First you say retail CDs are compressed with data loss, then you extoll the virtues of burning MP3 DVDs? The whole point of DVD-Audio and Sony's SACD was for copy protection. This is why it failed. Big companies were trying to find a way to make "buying" music more desirable. Also music is usually played in front of the audience. Usually there isn't a drummer to my back left, someone talking in my back right, etc.
11-27-2010, 03:53 PM
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The formats were DOA. Unless you had a higher-end preamp, upgrades were needed. The analog out only rule was in place to prevent the copying of the source at original resolutions. I think you are right, better sound quality was a driving force, but I don't think it can be denied that the whole Napster/MP3 also had something to do with. JMHO.
11-27-2010, 04:55 PM
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The formats were DOA. Unless you had a higher-end preamp, upgrades were needed. The analog out only rule was in place to prevent the copying of the source at original resolutions. I think you are right, better sound quality was a driving force, but I don't think it can be denied that the whole Napster/MP3 also had something to do with. JMHO.
11-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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You can't just burn a folder full of songs to a DVD-A. You have to create the proper DVD-A structure first, which is where software like Adobeman's comes into play.
11-28-2010, 04:37 PM
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11-28-2010, 04:40 PM
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A little off topic but I've been trying to figure out how to burn lossless to DVDs. I've put my entire CD collection on DVDs, 99 tracks per disk with no additional compression but I want better SQ. You can tell that many store bought CDs have terrible SQ. They sound as bad as MP3s. I want SQ even if I can only fit a couple tracks per DVD. I also think the better your system and ears are, the bigger difference there is.
11-28-2010, 07:44 PM
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A little off topic but I've been trying to figure out how to burn lossless to DVDs. I've put my entire CD collection on DVDs, 99 tracks per disk with no additional compression but I want better SQ. You can tell that many store bought CDs have terrible SQ. They sound as bad as MP3s. I want SQ even if I can only fit a couple tracks per DVD. I also think the better your system and ears are, the bigger difference there is.
11-28-2010, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, I remember that shock quite well. Denon player, luckily my receiver had analogs in... Also remember that whole "can't manage bass" issue. Its too bad the industry screwed that up so bad.
11-29-2010, 03:17 PM
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You would have to ask Adobeman. But if it's true that a Mac can now run Windows, couldn't you install Windows on the Mac and then run Adobeman's software that way? (I do not have a Mac, so I'm just speculating.)
11-29-2010, 04:47 PM
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Use switch and convert your music to .wav - it can/will do it in bulk. Next, use DVD-Audiophile to organize your DVD - it supports up to 9 groups. DVD-Audiophile will create a .iso that DiskUtility will burn for you. I have had success with single layer and dual layer DVDs.
This process is only as good as the source audio files are - for me it was MP3 and the disc sounds like MP3.
There are some threads on here that outline this better, but they are not easy to search for. I think that I finally found them by using 'mac' and 'burn.'
12-11-2010, 07:22 AM
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It's shameful that DVD-Audio disks are so hard to find at reasonable prices. The sound quality on well produced disks is definately better than standard. I agree Beatles-Love is a good example of DVD-Audio that sounds great. As of this post it's available from Amazon for under $20. Search for Beatles Love DVD Audio. The title will say CD+ Audio DVD.
Because much of what I own is not available at any price on DVD-Audio, I decided to purchase Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra. This lets me take lossless FLAC or WAV files and convert them to 5.1. There is a free trial (up to 5 disks). You can fit about 30-35 tracks or about 2 hours 15 minutes of music if you convert to 5.1. Stereo only is more like 100 tracks.
Keep in mind this is software based 5.1 sound, so it won't be as good as a professionally mixed disk, but it's a pretty good at what it does.
Because much of what I own is not available at any price on DVD-Audio, I decided to purchase Cirlinca HD Audio Solo Ultra. This lets me take lossless FLAC or WAV files and convert them to 5.1. There is a free trial (up to 5 disks). You can fit about 30-35 tracks or about 2 hours 15 minutes of music if you convert to 5.1. Stereo only is more like 100 tracks.
Keep in mind this is software based 5.1 sound, so it won't be as good as a professionally mixed disk, but it's a pretty good at what it does.
